My new, GO TO item on the reel repair work bench - White Vinegar

Roccus7

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The jury is still out on the Lock Tite treated screws that Penn uses in some of their fishing reels. I think I'd rather be vigilant in checking screw tightness rather than stripping heads on screws that won't come out.

I was at wit's end early this week while working on my Clash which desperately needed some attention.

Bless me Father for I have sinned, my last work on this 2 year old reel which I use every day and has caught over 2000 bass, is NEVER...

Two of the three screws came out with only minor head damage, but #3 would NOT budge. I was about to get the drill out and bite the bullet to spend $35 on a new body, but first I called my Jedi Master Reel Repair expert. He had 2 words, "White Vinegar!!" Didn't believe him, but who am I to question a master, so I got some vinegar and a Q-tip and put a few drops on the screw head.

While I was waiting for motion, another colleague and I was talking and his comment was to drill the head off and for reassembly time use some old "A&B, you know equal parts of A&B epoxy bottles and mix." I laughed because this very reel had an "A&B" repair on the bail and part of this service was to install the new bail. But then he got serious and asked if I could move the cover plate that the 3 screws held on. "Just work it a little if you can, that, plus the vinegar might be the ticket." So I started gently trying to nudge the cover in both directions and did get some motion. Then I went back to the reticent screw and VOILA, it started to turn!!

Well I finished all my servicing tasks including the bail and now am waiting for replacement screws. I'm debating about just removing the Lock Tite from them before installing or just making sure I don't go 2 years until the next check up's grand opening...
 
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Rick67

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Vinegar is a alternative to electrolysis in removing rust and corrosion. Never thought of using it like that though.
 
Stainless steel and aluminum are a bad combo, the blue loctite believe it or not, helps prevent electrolysis between the two.
You might want to consider never seize, I have used it on all my offshore equipment and inshore reels, never had a screw break off.
You will from time to time need to check that the screws are tight, in the future I would check the screws every now and then, loosen and then tighten, this will also prevent corrosion build up in the threads and prevent the exact situation you just faced.
 

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Stainless steel and aluminum are a bad combo, the blue loctite believe it or not, helps prevent electrolysis between the two.
You might want to consider never seize, I have used it on all my offshore equipment and inshore reels, never had a screw break off.
You will from time to time need to check that the screws are tight, in the future I would check the screws every now and then, loosen and then tighten, this will also prevent corrosion build up in the threads and prevent the exact situation you just faced.

Pretty sure the screws are brass, not stainless. The heads don't take much torque before they start getting destroyed.

Regardless, great advice.
 
Pretty sure the screws are brass, not stainless. The heads don't take much torque before they start getting destroyed.

Regardless, great advice.
If they were brass they would turn green, even if they chrome them, pretty sure they are ss, depending on how much nickle is in them is how tempered they are, ss screws are easy to break and strip, but if they are brass, the same still applies, now I have to find out if they are brass or not. lol
 
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Old Mud

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I never used vinegar on my reels but always use White Distilled on my tool bitts, drills, collets measuring tools, vices, clamps etc. I have for many years used Penn Muscle grease on all the screws in any reels. When they stopped making it 15 or 20 years ago i found a case and purchased it. I has been gone for a few years now. Now i use Zinc Never seize as i always have on anything aluminum. The zinc is a less noble metal and will keep the aluminum from corroding. A small can will last 20 years. :)

A spot of heat on anything loctite will free it up. Just use a little pencil torch with care.

As you know Diligent Maintenance cures all those problems.
 

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As you know Diligent Maintenance cures all those problems.

And there's where I consistently fail, "Ah I'll take it apart tomorrow." The reel in the original post was supposed to have been rebuilt this past winter, "tomorrow" finally came when it was seizing up and the bail roller was frozen...
 
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chunkster

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I'm debating about just removing the Lock Tite from them before installing or just making sure I don't go 2 years until the next check up's grand opening...

Your 2 year old reel that you use everyday is picking up vibrations. The lock tite solves
the "Your screws are loose you better tighten them." At this part of the reels life you can
start thinking of Jerry rigging. Squeezing in a washer can go a long ways. ;)
 

stusurf

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Hi.. While on the discussion of Peen reels, I was wondering if anyone is familiar with their exchange program that allows the owner of a reel that Penn no longer services to exchange that reel for a new or refruubrishes one at a discount. I own a 4500 ss which they no longer service and would like to exchange it for a Battle 3. Calls to customer service result in a constant busy signal and the 2 emails that I have sent have not been answered. Covid issues?
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Replacement part orders placed with our Consumer Services Department cannot be returned for a refund or an exchange. All replacement part sales are final.


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stusurf

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Hi. The 4500ss is an originally owned reel. It wasn't sent in for service or new parts. It seems that they have a trade in program if they no longer service an item and will provide a discount if your purchase an upgraded reel. Hard to find info. about this Penn program
 

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