SPRO Bucktails

BoatGuy

Angler
I have noticed SPRO has a number of variations on the hair portion of their bucktails.

Anyone use the SPRO Squidtail Jigs? Advantages or disadvantages over hair?

Anyone use the SPRO fine-cut silicone strands? Advantages or disadvantages over hair?
I have tried small Poison Tail as a teaser. They had the fine-cut silicone strands. The hair teaser seemed to perform better.
 
I have noticed SPRO has a number of variations on the hair portion of their bucktails.

Anyone use the SPRO Squidtail Jigs? Advantages or disadvantages over hair?

Anyone use the SPRO fine-cut silicone strands? Advantages or disadvantages over hair?
I have tried small Poison Tail as a teaser. They had the fine-cut silicone strands. The hair teaser seemed to perform better.
In general, the more hair a bucktail carries the more of a "pulsing action" it will display in the water. You can see this on any underwater footage of bucktails being worked. I suppose you could get to a point of diminishing returns if the bucktail was overloaded but I rarely see manufacturers being too generous with the amount of hair tied to their lead heads.

I did try the SPRO Squidtails a few years ago and was not very impressed with their performance. Definitely not as much lifelike action as a traditional deer hair dressed lure. Only advantage I saw was the rubber skirt could stand up a bit longer to fraying from some of the sharper tooth critters.

I have not seen or tried the fine-silicone strand version you mentioned.
 
Hmmm, where to begin? I haven't used bucktail-haired jigs in many, many years, let alone the constantly price-increasing Spro variety. What do they get for a 4oz these days, like 8 bux? Ridiculous! I make my own out of rubber "squidie" tails and I'm pretty sure no one has ever accused me or my jigs of not producing results out on the grounds, LOL!

Basics:

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Here's how I get to where I gotta go:


One improvement to the above method is that I now use one of those little mini wire ties on the jig's hook as the trailer hook keeper, instead of the cut off squidie heads. Seems to much better resist the shaking off of the trailer hook on a good fish's head thumps - which can occasionally be an issue.

Experimentation, on-going trial-and-error refinements, that's how we learn this kind of stuff. At least that's how I learn. Costs some fish to go this way, but that's one of the reasons that I post in such detail - so you don't have to do the method discovery. I think that's supposed to be the point of this board, no?

Anyway, I tend to keep a good variety of my jigs ready to go.

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Those pix are from a season or three ago. Safe to say many of them are now resting comfortably hooked to the bottom out on the offshore JI grounds. Hey more structure is more good, right? :rolleyes:

So this Winter I've once again been accumulating components in order to make up a couple of dozen 3 and 4oz jigs, which are the most common sizes we use on the deeper grounds.

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As you can see, I tend to gravitate toward glow-in-the-dark and brighter colors. As far as using the rubber squidies or the silicone fine tails, I like both, but for different purposes. The squidies go on the lead heads, and the silicone skirts I save to put ahead of the top hook on my B/S rigs, used in conjunction with a couple of glow beads, a 5/0 Mustad 3400BN hook and a 5 or 6" GULP! jigging grub. I've found thru experimentation that mounting the silicone skirt on the dropper in reverse gives a very nice pulsing action above the grub. Some pix of this rigging:

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As I've written before, I get my squidies, the silicone skirts, and the 10mm glow beads from AliExpress. The jig heads, pre-made with 5/0 hooks and glow painted, have been coming from Clint at HTLureco. His prices are getting a bit on the rich side and so I've hit on T&A Jigs on Ebay as my new source for the heads. His jig head mold is set up for an 8/0 hook - way too big for fluke, IMO. But it can accomodate 6/0's and so that's what I'm going with this season. His user name on Ebay is goodwin808, but his real name is Tim. Seems to be a solid guy with good communication and I'm gonna give him my order today.

Putting fluke jigs together on a rainy weekend day sure beats most other deary honey-doo tasks. I head for the garage, close the door, put on a Knick or Mets game (or always try to catch Joe Bonigno on WFAN Saturday mornings), and spend a couple of mind-clearing hours doing my thing. Works for me.

So if you want to try doing it "my way," look around on AliExpress for the two types of tails and beads, head to Ebay for the painted jig heads - and you can build your own very effective fluke jigs and rigs for around half what you'd lay out for those Spro pieces.
 
No doubt that Lep has Fluke fishing and jig making down to a science! I have fished with him for too many years to question any of his suggestions. In fact, I try to emulate them myself, although I don't have the patience to rig all those bucktail heads each season.

I like the new idea of using small wire ties to hold the stinger hook in place. First, it should allow the second hook to swing more freely and not work itself free. Second it means that I will avoid hooking myself any more than is necessary trying to put those tiny pieces of plastic squid head over the sharp point of the main hook!😵

Finally, I believe even Lep will agree that although his hook up rate rarely seems to suffer using the plastic squids, there are those days when the fish can be really picky and that nice pulsating motion that only deer hair can make just could be the difference between enjoying a nice Fluke dinner or not. If my eyes don't deceive me, I'm pretty sure I see some white bucktails dressed with traditional hair to the left of the rods on your rack of lures in photo # 3.;)
 
Hmmm, I can’t honestly say that I agree. Those pix are not current and so the hairy versions are looong gone from my tackle kit. Replaced by synthetics per my message above. I do doubt I’ll every go back.

If the fish decide they want something “pulsing” on a particular day, I now offer them their choice of hitting the top hooked silicone skirt and woim combo. Those “sili-skirts” pulse way better than any bucktail’s deer hair. I’ll give you a demo this coming season, next time you come West fish for “our” sub-species.

Were that it was as easy to replace my own hair with synthetics. For sure I’d be the lead singer in an ‘80’s hair band. Alas, not the case. Can’t sing a lick either, so there’s that too. . . 😥
 
I bought a Spro once just to copy it as I powder paint the HT Lureco minnow leadheads (Lep's guidance) and put on my own harvested deer hair with a bobbin and thread left from my last journey to Terminal Tackle:cry: the last couple of years I also got some plastics off Ebay (Lep's guidance again) and put some of them backwards (ends facing the mouth away from hook) for that extra pulse on the same dressed leadhead. The hook point remains somewhat exposed and that is where I put on a 3" Gulp! Mind you, I fish alone, off a yak, and in the backbay,for just weaks and fluke. And I use a DIY Lep Rig (have no idea where that came from, probably from that all but defunct other website :rolleyes:) with a dressed and Gulp'd! teaser 13" up from the dressed and Gulp'd! leadhead. I get an extra kick out of using just about nothing that I did not make myself. When I start paddling again in May I intend to try trolling a Tsunami shad up current before starting my next drift.
 
Pequa (et. al.) - look right above this at the pinned threads. The B/S Rig thread is right there.
It is basically the only rig i have used since you first explained it on that “other” site. I even use it surfcasting on days i want a teaser.
 
These days everybody has a variation of one type or another. But back then (28 or more seasons ago) nobody was using it. Nobody that I ever saw or spoke with, anyways.
 
When I first designed it, it was supposed to be just single small bucktail (or hook) over a sinker. Then the jigging thing took off and we found it was just as nice for that as well. But by then everyone had a version of it.
 
Hmmm, I can’t honestly say that I agree. Those pix are not current and so the hairy versions are looong gone from my tackle kit. Replaced by synthetics per my message above. I do doubt I’ll every go back.

If the fish decide they want something “pulsing” on a particular day, I now offer them their choice of hitting the top hooked silicone skirt and woim combo. Those “sili-skirts” pulse way better than any bucktail’s deer hair. I’ll give you a demo this coming season, next time you come West fish for “our” sub-species.

Were that it was as easy to replace my own hair with synthetics. For sure I’d be the lead singer in an ‘80’s hair band. Alas, not the case. Can’t sing a lick either, so there’s that too. . . 😥
I just realized how the "stow away" bucktails made it to your garage. I left a couple of mine aboard your boat as a subtle hint!!:ROFLMAO:
 
28yrs ago we were using Bullets.

Lost a few nice fish using those things. Learned not to rig the hook to the swivel but rig a very short piece of mono to the hook. Fish didn't fall off as much.
 
I've received a bunch of PMs asking where to source the silicone skirts, specifically. I have used two vendors. If you want them quickly and are willing to pay a substantial premium for that speed, then 3MTackle in Jersey is who I have gotten them from at the Spring Jersey Fishing Expo:


If you can wait a couple of weeks, and wanna far better price, then AliExpress is the way to go. As far as I can tell, it's exactly the same product as is locally sold (including 3MTackle's stuff), except it's not repackaged here in the USA. There are literally dozens of vendors on Ali, this is the one I use:


Hint: Buy the silicone skirts with the "collar", not the plain "bundles." It will make your life so much easier when rigging them. As far as size, I think they are a standard 3 or so inches. In fact I just measured mine, and yep, 3". If too long for your taste you can trim them to your desired length. Don't go too short though, or you'll lose the pulsing effect. Same goes for the squidie skirts, if you want to try them on your bucktail jig heads as well, though there's not as much "pulsing" going on with the squidies.

Here's one taken on a 5oz. jig head/squidie skirt combo last June - as a matter of fact, I think it was my first keeper of the season, taken on a fairly rough day out there. Note the black line off my mid-ship cleat, securing the drift sock. It would have been a waste of time trip w/o it, that day. Instead it was a 3-man 11-fish near limit kind of day. Kinda set the tone for the rest of the season. Anyway, not a sea monster (those came later in the season), but he tasted just great after a looong off-season:



Georgie has a nice smile, doesn't he? He should, after that successful an early-season kick-off trip! It was a truly great day to be out there! 😁

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Overbored - yeah, I remember that was the key for the larger-sized bullets. I still sometimes put one of those on the bottom of my B/S Rig, those rare times that I fish the open bottom. 6" of 50lb mono does the trick. For me that's "rod holder" fishing, since the boat's action will jig them nicely, with any decent amount of breeze. Can't do that over obstructed bottom though, unless you have very deep pockets - or enjoy constantly tying on new rigs. Hey, to each his own.
 

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