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Link only shows entire state, what County are you in?
I’ve been seeing this product advertised on TV lately, to me it seems more like a COVID 19 ‘bucket’ than a shield. What’s your opinion R7?
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Sorry, just got around to this. I have to ask what's your intent of asking the question? If you're thinking these numbers are saying, "Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!" then I'd caution against it.
Yes, the daily cases look very nice, showing not much of a late summer surge like many areas in the rest of the country.
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However if you look at Hospitalizations, there is a pretty consistent run rate throughout the entire time span which isn't so good:
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And looking at deaths, it seems much more constant so I wouldn't be patting yourselves on your backs. It seems that the fatality of the infections there are pretty constant so the highest levels of caution need to be continued:
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Bottom line, IMO, if folks are looking at these data to say it's time to normalize things, that would be a grave mistake, something that's not limited to VA's Eastern Shore, but the entire country and even the world. World-wide when things have opened up, the chit has hit the fan, colleges shutting down within a few days of opening, schools doing the same, etc.
It's time for all of us to come to grips that masks, social distancing, superlative hygiene, avoiding crowds, avoiding travel, etc. ARE the NEW NORMAL until the time that an effective vaccine is available and widely used. It's something that none of us want to succumb to, but it's the harsh reality of dealing with an unyielding, deadly lest we succumb to the ravages of the virus.
And they will also pass right thru a mask..Never consider it, it seem to me that air borne particles would drop right into it.
Until 1999 or so never got a flu shot either. Then I got the flu. Have gotten 21 flu shots since.thanks for the input
No interest in running around like its "1999". I realize that's pending the outcome of a vaccine. Just was looking for your opinion as to me it looked pretty good & we may be working our way through it. We were a "hot spot" during early Spring. We were only 1 of a handful of counties in the Commonwealth that was not allowed to move to Phase 2 with the rest of the state. As I recall there were 3 or 4 counties that were prohibited to move to Phase 2 opening.
As a matter of fact the Governor had cleared us to move to Phase 2 but the county petitioned the Governor to leave us in Phase 1. This was because of the large number of cases vs. the population. We apparently were meeting the criteria to move to Phase 2 but the Governor didn't take into account the population (even though he was born & raised in Onancock so he should have been aware).
So we remained in Phase 1.
Presently you can not get into a public space without a mask. They are very strict on that even going so far as to telling people who got in with a mask & then proceeded to wear it improperly to wear it properly or leave the store. I have seen a couple of instances where people were being escorted out of the building.
I'm fine with that.
Just thinking they may be doing something right when we were so bad in the beginning & was looking for another opinion.
I myself do not intend to act like things are back to normal until such a time as a vaccine is available & we are given the all clear. I'm not travelling anywhere(even though it's now been a year since I got to see my daughter) other then for necessities & the occasional night out for a meal as all establishments are meeting the distancing protocols.
We(the family) were supposed to be spending a week in the Outer Banks the last week of August. I was the first to bail on that with most of my brothers following suit. Luckily my brother was able to get some major bucks back from the landlord for the 10 bedroom house he rented on the beach. The rent was north of $3000 for the week.
I've never had a flu shot nor have I ever had the flu. I will however be getting one this year & definitely getting a COVID vaccination when available.
Thanks for your read on the charts. VA updates them daily by 10 each morning.
R 7 under this scenario how does this vaccine reach my local Walgreens Pharmacy where I get my ‘normal’ Flu Shot or is there another distribution scenario that needs to be in play? Thanks.Never thought that vaccine manufacturers would consider -80°C shipping conditions as an acceptable shipping and storage condition, BUT looks like they have.
From a person who was plagued with receiving materials at said conditions and storing many key reagents at those temps, trust me, this is a HUGE logistical challenge, especially when you're talking about 100s of millions of vaccines for the US, and the billions needed for world-wide inoculations. Trust me, nobody in the Amazon basin has ultrafreezers capable for said storage.
From today's NY Times...
How to Ship a Vaccine at –80°C, and Other Obstacles in the Covid Fight
Developing an effective vaccine is the first step. Then comes the question of how to deliver hundreds of millions of doses that may need to be kept at arctic temperatures.
Many things will have to work out to end the coronavirus pandemic. Drug companies will have to develop a safe and effective vaccine. Billions of people will have to consent to vaccination.
But there are more prosaic challenges, too. Among them: Companies may have to transport tiny glass vials thousands of miles while keeping them as cold as the South Pole in the depths of winter.
A number of the leading Covid-19 vaccines under development will need to be kept at temperatures as low as minus 80 degrees Celsius (minus 112 degrees Fahrenheit) from the moment they are bottled to the time they are ready to be injected into patients’ arms.
That will not be easy. Vaccines may be manufactured on one continent and shipped to another. They will go from logistics hub to logistics hub before ending up at the hospitals and other facilities that will administer them.
While no vaccine has yet been approved by health officials in the United States, preparations for a mass-vaccination campaign are gearing up. The U.S. military and a federal contractor are expected to play a role in coordinating the distribution. But a hodgepodge of companies are scrambling to figure out how to keep hundreds of millions of doses of a vaccine very, very cold.
Planes, trucks and warehouses will need to be outfitted with freezers. Glass vials will need to withstand icy climes. Someone will need to make a lot more dry ice.
“We’re only now beginning to understand the complexities of the delivery side of all of this,” said J. Stephen Morrison, senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a research firm. “And there’s no getting around it. These have stark temperature demands that will constrain access and delivery.”
President Trump on Friday asserted that hundreds of millions of doses of an unidentified vaccine will be available to all Americans by April. That timeline is more ambitious than what his own advisers have described. Dr. Robert R. Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a Senate committee on Wednesday that a vaccine would not be widely available until the middle of next year.
Of the three vaccines that have advanced to Phase 3 trials, two — one made by Moderna and the National Institutes of Health, the other by Pfizer and BioNTech — need to be kept in a near constant deep freeze. (They are made with genetic materials that fall apart when they thaw.) Another leading vaccine candidate, being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University, must be kept cool but not frozen.
McKesson, a major drug distributor, won a major federal contract last month to help distribute a coronavirus vaccine. Much of the work, however, will fall to companies outside the medical and drug industries. The major U.S. logistics companies, including UPS and FedEx, already have networks of freezers that they use to ship perishable food and medical supplies. The companies have experience shipping vaccines for other illnesses, including the seasonal flu.
But the Covid-19 vaccination effort is likely to dwarf all previous campaigns.
UPS said it was constructing a so-called freezer farm in Louisville, Ky., the company’s largest hub, where it can store millions of doses at subzero temperatures.
Creating an entire warehouse that could maintain that deep freeze would have been too complex and costly. So instead, rows of upright industrial Stirling Ultracold freezers, each capable of holding 48,000 vials, are being arranged inside a warehouse. There are 70 freezers so far, but the warehouse could fit a few hundred. A similar UPS center is in the works in the Netherlands.
“I haven’t seen anything like this before,” said Wes Wheeler, UPS’s head of health care. “Nothing has been quite this global in scale.”