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Unless someone's fucked up with comorbidities.....everyone has the same survival rate...98% plus without a shot of the gene altering shit, you know the ones that leaks and actually infects everyone else. That's actually the Delta variant.
Personally, I actually socially distance from people who Have Taken The Shot.


Have fun this winter when shit hits the fan for the sheep who took the jab. Go get that booster as well, and the next and the next. Your natural immunity is toast. Your now dependent on a booster. You're pretty much FFL.

The booster is going to be like a constant Windows Update from Bill Gates.
Take it, it wears off, get sick, take it again, it wears off, the natural immune system gets degraded with each booster, take the booster again, wears off....wash rinse and repeat.

Like a drug addict coming down off a high, has to do more each time....

This is big pharma et al F"ing you for life...

I could care less what anyone does, Your body your life do as you see fit. Not here to change minds.....
 
My masters degree isn’t close to the medical field. Swmbo and I are at ages where we have a lot of doctors and all but one got vaxxed. They advised us to do same, and the odd doctor out got the virus and still hasn’t been able to return to work. I am thinking he will have a miniscule practice left
 
So u think the vaccine is poison? What is your profession or hobby that has u believing that ?
It's not a vaccine under the prevailing definition the last 25+ years (it's recently changed actually). It's gene therapy.

Pequa - read the post essay I put up a few back. The whole essay, would probably take an hour to read. It might shed some light on the subject.
 
Long read, but this essay is excellent:



The Snake-Oil Salesmen and the COVID-Zero Con: A Classic Bait-And-Switch for a Lifetime of Booster Shots (Immunity as a Service)​


If a plumber with a lifetime of experience were to tell you that water runs uphill, you would know he is lying and that the lie is not accidental. It is a lie with a purpose. If you can also demonstrate that the plumber knows in advance that the product he is promoting with that lie is snake oil, you have evidence for a deliberate con. And once you understand what's really inside that bottle of snake oil, you will begin to understand the purpose of the con.
One of the most common reasons given for mass COVID vaccinations is the idea that if we reach herd immunity through vaccination, we can starve the virus out of existence and get our lives back. It's the COVID-Zero strategy or some variant of it.

By now it is abundantly clear from the epidemiological data that the vaccinated are able to both catch and spread the disease. Clearly vaccination isn't going to make this virus disappear. Only a mind that has lost its grasp on reality can fail to see how ridiculous all this has become.

But a tour through pre-COVID science demonstrates that, from day one, long before you and I had even heard of this virus, it was 100% inevitable and 100% predictable that these vaccines would never be capable of eradicating this coronavirus and would never lead to any kind of lasting herd immunity. Even worse, lockdowns and mass vaccination have created a dangerous set of circumstances that interferes with our immune system's ability to protect us against other respiratory viruses. They also risk driving the evolution of this virus towards mutations that are more dangerous to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated alike. Lockdowns, mass vaccinations, and mass booster shots were never capable of delivering on any of the promises that were made to the public.

And yet, vaccination has been successfully used to control measles and even to eradicate smallpox. So, why not COVID? Immunity is immunity, and a virus is a virus is a virus, right? Wrong! Reality is far more complicated... and more interesting.

This Deep Dive exposes why, from day one, the promise of COVID-Zero can only ever have been a deliberately dishonest shell game designed to prey on a lack of public understanding of how our immune systems work and on how most respiratory viruses differ from other viruses that we routinely vaccinate against. We have been sold a fantasy designed to rope us into a pharmaceutical dependency as a deceitful trade-off for access to our lives. Variant by variant. For as long as the public is willing to go along for the ride.


Exposing this story does not require incriminating emails or whistleblower testimony. The story tells itself by diving into the long-established science that every single virologist, immunologist, evolutionary biologist, vaccine developer, and public health official had access to long before COVID began. As is so often the case, the devil is hidden in the details. As this story unfolds it will become clear that the one-two punch of lockdowns and the promise of vaccines as an exit strategy began as a cynical marketing ploy to coerce us into a never-ending regimen of annual booster shots intentionally designed to replace the natural "antivirus security updates" against respiratory viruses that come from hugs and handshakes and from children laughing together at school. We are being played for fools.

This is not to say that there aren't plenty of other opportunists taking advantage of this crisis to pursue other agendas and to tip society into a full-blown police state. One thing quickly morphs into another. But this essay demonstrates that never-ending boosters were the initial motive for this global social-engineering shell game ― the subscription-based business model, adapted for the pharmaceutical industry. "Immunity as a service".
So, let's dive into the fascinating world of immune systems, viruses, and vaccines, layer by layer, to dispel the myths and false expectations that have been created by deceitful public health officials, pharmaceutical lobbyists, and media manipulators. What emerges as the lies are peeled apart is both surprising and more than a little alarming.

“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” - Sherlock Homes” ― Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

Table of Contents:



This one Pequa
 
It's gene therapy.
WRONG!! Gene therapy introduces or modifies gene in the human DNA. The mRNA vaccines send mRNA (NOT A GENE AND NOT DNA) into a cell's protein synthesis system (Ribosomes), which last time I looked, are not in the nucleus where the human genome (DNA) is.

Once at the ribosomes, the mRNA causes the cell to make the an antigen, in the case of COVID vaccines, the Spike Protein, which are released into the blood stream. The body's immune system recognizes this viral protein as an invader and begins to mount an immunological response to fight the infection, which includes making antibodies against the spike protein.

And WTH did you come up with that 25+ year requirement for a vaccine to be called a vaccine? That must mean some of the vaccines like tetanus, which you should get every 10 years or more frequently if you're constantly hooking yourself, are no longer vaccines?? Dang, I though Pluto got a bad deal, have to add the DPT vaccine to the list...

Any other cellular biology question/misunderstandings you have?

Oh, and BTW, the booster is probably important to give the vaccines' GPS tracking devices new batteries!! Believe that one, and I've got a bridge from Manhattan to Brooklyn that you may be interested in buying...
 
WRONG!! Gene therapy introduces or modifies gene in the human DNA. The mRNA vaccines send mRNA (NOT A GENE AND NOT DNA) into a cell's protein synthesis system (Ribosomes), which last time I looked, are not in the nucleus where the human genome (DNA) is.

Once at the ribosomes, the mRNA causes the cell to make the an antigen, in the case of COVID vaccines, the Spike Protein, which are released into the blood stream. The body's immune system recognizes this viral protein as an invader and begins to mount an immunological response to fight the infection, which includes making antibodies against the spike protein.

And WTH did you come up with that 25+ year requirement for a vaccine to be called a vaccine? That must mean some of the vaccines like tetanus, which you should get every 10 years or more frequently if you're constantly hooking yourself, are no longer vaccines?? Dang, I though Pluto got a bad deal, have to add the DPT vaccine to the list...

Any other cellular biology question/misunderstandings you have?

Oh, and BTW, the booster is probably important to give the vaccines' GPS tracking devices new batteries!! Believe that one, and I've got a bridge from Manhattan to Brooklyn that you may be interested in buying...

U have been towing the pharma line since the inception Dom. This mRNA crap spikes up your natural immunity once , maybe twice, until your natural immunity no longer works correctly and you are dependent on this shit...and booster shots, Forever!

"And WTH did you come up with that 25+ year requirement for a vaccine to be called a vaccine?"

I did not say that. Read again. Look up the new CDC FDA definition of what a is a Vaccine. It has since changed in the past year 2-3 times!!! Just to suite the mRNA crap you are spewing.
 
U have been towing the pharma line since the inception Dom. This mRNA crap spikes up your natural immunity once , maybe twice, until your natural immunity no longer works correctly and you are dependent on this shit...and booster shots, Forever!

"And WTH did you come up with that 25+ year requirement for a vaccine to be called a vaccine?"

I did not say that. Read again. Look up the new CDC FDA definition of what a is a Vaccine. It has since changed in the past year 2-3 times!!! Just to suite the mRNA crap you are spewing.

LOL, here's the CDC definition of a vaccine: Immunization Basics | CDC It was updated on September 1, but there's nothing here about 25 years, nor has there ever been. Please provide documentation of that.

Immunization: The Basics

Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. Learn about how COVID-19 mRNA vaccines work.

Definition of Terms

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inocul
ation.

And as far as the mRNA vaccines, I'm explaining basic Molecular Biology, not towing (sic, it's toeing) any line. AAMOF I'd be very interested if you could provide any data explaining the immunological and biochemical reasons that the mRNA vaccines screw up a person's natural immunity?? Were you watching TV in your "suite" when you saw Tucker Carlson or one of his learned colleagues explaining that?

DISCLOSURE: Yes, I did work in the diagnostics arms of a "Big Pharma" company. My retirement is currently funded by one of the world's largest selling drugs, but the company I worked for has never, and is not involved with vaccine development, manufacture nor sales.
 
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whatever Dom.. go play with little bass in the am down in the river Styx

vax definition.webp


In a surreptitious move to support the vaccine narrative, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly changed the definition of a vaccine,1,2 which they have held since at least February 24, 2011.3 At first glance, it might seem like a small change, but it has massive repercussions.

The meaning of words can change over time, and can be influenced by social, economic, political, religious and technological factors. Many of the words we use today have vastly different meanings than they did 10 or 100 years ago.4 However, changing medical words and definitions has a significant impact on bias in perception. One study demonstrated that a simple switch in terminology could result:5
 
We can get into a war of semantics over changes made over the years to accommodate new scientific advances. The first vaccine by Edward Jenner was for smallpox. Guess what??? It didn't contain ANY smallpox virus in it or in its preparation!! It was a "preparation" of cox pox that caused the recipient to generate antibodies against the cox pox virus, that fortunately cross reacted to the smallpox virus. Poor Dr. Jenner, must be rolling in his grave with the realization that his vaccine wasn't a true vaccine...

Regardless, the Atlantic Business Journal, a bastion of scientific excellence, right up there with the NY Post, still contains the falsehood that these vaccines are gene therapies, which they are NOT, and that's a fact that cannot be debated.

These dramatic changes were likely created to allow the CDC, FDA and other governmental agencies to call the genetic therapy experiment being administered worldwide a “vaccine” — while they knew full well the so-called “vaccine” was not created to either produce immunity or prevent transmission of disease. In fact, by any definition of a vaccine in use before 2021, this jab is not a vaccine.

No genes, gene alteration, nor gene deletion is involved with these vaccines, so it's not "gene therapy". If you think there is a gene involved, please provide evidence from a scientific source.
 
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It's useless.

The vax was explained 100 pages back.

All those assinine theories were put in the dumpster right next to the election fraud claims.

Bottom line, I can die of many things over the remainder of my life. Many I cannot predict or control. Surviving a Covid infection IS something which I can control the outcome to a certain extent.

If there was a pill to prevent all cancer I would take that too!

I choose life and health NOT politics!!!!!
 
Hey look, some truth posted here. The COVID vaccines are making a ton of money for their manufacturers...

COVID-19 vaccine boosters could mean billions for drugmakers​

pressherald.com/2021/09/25/covid-19-vaccine-boosters-could-mean-billions-for-drugmakers/

By TOM MURPHY September 25, 2021
A technician works on a line for packaging preparation for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine at the company's facility in Puurs, Belgium.


Billions more in profits are at stake for some vaccine makers as the U.S. moves toward dispensing COVID-19 booster shots to shore up Americans’ protection against the virus.

How much the manufacturers stand to gain depends on how big the rollout proves to be.

Exactly who should get a booster was a contentious decision as advisers to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention spent two days this week poring over the evidence. CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky endorsed most of their choices: People 65 and older, nursing home residents and those ages 50 to 64 who have chronic health problems such as diabetes should be offered one once they’re six months past their last Pfizer dose. Those 18 and older with health problems can decide for themselves if they want a booster.

Still, the crisis is constantly evolving, and some top U.S. health officials expect boosters will be more broadly authorized in the coming weeks or months. And that, plus continued growth in initial vaccinations, could mean a huge gain in sales and profits for Pfizer and Moderna in particular.

“The opportunity quite frankly is reflective of the billions of people around the world who would need a vaccination and a boost,” Jefferies analyst Michael Yee said.

Wall Street is taking notice. The average forecast among analysts for Moderna’s 2022 revenue has jumped 35 percent since President Biden laid out his booster plan in mid-August.

Most of the vaccinations so far in the U.S. have come from Pfizer, which developed its shot with Germany’s BioNTech, and Moderna. They have inoculated about 99 million and 68 million people, respectively. Johnson & Johnson is third with about 14 million people.

No one knows yet how many people will get the extra shots. But Morningstar analyst Karen Andersen expects boosters alone to bring in about $26 billion in global sales next year for Pfizer and BioNTech and around $14 billion for Moderna if they are endorsed for nearly all Americans.

Those companies also may gain business from people who got other vaccines initially. In Britain, which plans to offer boosters to everyone over 50 and other vulnerable people, an expert panel has recommended that Pfizer’s shot be the primary choice, with Moderna as the alternative.

Andersen expects Moderna, which has no other products on the market, to generate a roughly $13 billion profit next year from all COVID-19 vaccine sales if boosters are broadly authorized.

Potential vaccine profits are harder to estimate for Pfizer, but company executives have said they expect their pre-tax adjusted profit margin from the vaccine to be in the “high 20s” as a percentage of revenue. That would translate to a profit of around $7 billion next year just from boosters, based on Andersen’s sales prediction.

J&J and Europe’s AstraZeneca have said they don’t intend to profit from their COVID-19 vaccines during the pandemic.

For Pfizer and Moderna, the boosters could be more profitable than the original doses because they won’t come with the research and development costs the companies incurred to get the vaccines on the market in the first place.

WBB Securities CEO Steve Brozak said the booster shots will represent “almost pure profit” compared with the initial doses.

Drugmakers aren’t the only businesses that could see a windfall from delivering boosters. Drugstore chains CVS Health and Walgreens could bring in more than $800 million each in revenue, according to Jeff Jonas, a portfolio manager with Gabelli Funds.

Jonas noted that the drugstores may not face competition from mass vaccination clinics this time around, and the chains are diligent about collecting customer contact information. That makes it easy to invite people back for boosters.

Drugmakers are also developing COVID-19 shots that target certain variants of the virus, and say people might need annual shots like the ones they receive for the flu. All of that could make the vaccines a major recurring source of revenue.

The COVID-19 vaccines have already done much better than their predecessors.

Pfizer said in July it expects revenue from its COVID-19 vaccine to reach $33.5 billion this year, an estimate that could change depending on the impact of boosters or the possible expansion of shots to elementary school children.

That would be more than five times the $5.8 billion racked up last year by the world’s most lucrative vaccine — Pfizer’s Prevnar13, which protects against pneumococcal disease.

It also would dwarf the $19.8 billion brought in last year by AbbVie’s rheumatoid arthritis treatment Humira, widely regarded as the world’s top-selling drug.

This bodes well for future vaccine development, noted Erik Gordon, a business professor at the University of Michigan.

Vaccines normally are nowhere near as profitable as treatments, Gordon said. But the success of the COVID-19 shots could draw more drugmakers and venture capitalists into the field.

“The vaccine business is more attractive, which, for those of us who are going to need vaccines, is good,” Gordon said.
 
Well, that's it then. There can't be any new technologies in the medical field because they're counter to a government agency's definition.
You know, I'd be remiss if I didn't pass along this information. If someone is hell-bent on getting a COVID immunization that fits the "old" CDC definitions of deactivated virus, they can seek out the Chinese-manufactured SINOVAX vaccine.

BTW, it's only 55% effective, so bad that even poor Third World Nations are loath to use it, but then again, it's a "real vaccine" to some...
 
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Amazing all the funded research is done in China but vaccine only good if made here.

Arizona audit revealed fraud sad to say.
 
Amazing all the funded research is done in China but vaccine only good if made here.
That's the reality of the mRNA vaccines. Anyone can sequence viral DNA/RNA, it's done by an instrument.

However the science and experience necessary to manufacture large-scale mRNA vaccines is far more complicated. And since you're not working with live virus, no need for BSL-4 facilities, any clean room will do...
 
I doubt we would have even 40% vaccinated if the country that disseminated the virus was the only place to get the vaccine. I have read Sun Tzu.
 
Riddle me this

family of 4 all positive for covid recently maybe 12 weeks dad pretty sever but no hospital stay , sick about 2 weeks

dad went for antibodies test yesterday at his physical

wha wha
No anti bodies
 
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