Robert Moses Causeway

Jaws1948

Angler
This afternoon, I did a transmission repair on my car and to see how it worked out, took a ride to Fire Island. Got on RM southbound at Montauk Hwy and went over all 3 bridges to the water tower and then back. I haven't driven there in quite some time and couldn't believe the condition of that road. That road is an absolute disgrace. I looks like Berlin after the war. There is literally no place to drive where the car isn't bouncing all over the place from the awful patching job that was done. It just seems to me that with the amount of taxes we pay in NY, the roads should be paved in solid gold (exaggeration). Guys, if you're going to FI for some fishing, take it real easy on that road. It's horrible and in both directions

Mike
 
Yes I make several trips over there and it is bad, takes the enjoyment and beauty of the great South Bay right out as you hang on for your life.
 
Ditto. Been over it several times coming home when we do something at the kid's school. It's rough on suspension and occupants. Unfortunately, it's not the only road that's cr@p in this premium priced state.
 
That bad, huh? I remember many, many moons ago going over the big bridge in my '70 Charger 440 and getting her up to better than 120 before I had to lift. Speaking of lift, that car was like a giant wing - at that kind of speed the steering got real light, as though the front wheels were lifting off the ground - which they probably were. I guess that's why the NASCAR guys put that giant wing on the tail of the Charger Daytona. Anyway, the RM bridge's road surface was glassy smooth back then. It was a loooong time ago.
 
I thought I was going to work fast at 110 in my '67 289 Mustang in 1971 on nearby Ocean Parkway! Ah well, Ocean Parkway will someday just be a memory.
 
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My brother got bagged at the Southern State to Heckscher Pkwy exit going 115mph in his '70 Buick GS Stage 1. Had to go to court for that one and the Judge lifted his license for a couple of years. As he was coming out of the courtroom he could hear people in the lobby whispering "That's the guy that was caught going 115 in a 55." Quite the celebrity. He had to arrange rides to/from work, and the girlfriend(s) drove to all the after hours entertainment. Put quite a crimp in his style. Sold the GS and ended up with an AMC Gremlin once he got his s**t straightened out. I guess he learned his lesson. The Gremlin put quite a dent in his dating game though . . . Not quite a Buick GS, that one was. LOL!
 
My buddy got nailed in his Duster 6pack on the SOB in 1974. Followed by a truly cordial convo with the highway patrol:

"How did you catch me?"
Pointed above (chopper.)
"How fast ?"
95
"Thank god, I had it up to 110..."
Eyeball roll.
Good sized fine and weekends watching traffic offense movies...
 
Pequa - you sure that Dust 340 had a 6-pack in it? Because the Duster was never offered with that intake setup. The 'Cuda had it in the AAR version. Maybe your friend added it? Had to be an expensive conversion, even back in the day. I know this stuff because after I sold my Charger (BIG mistake) my next ride was a '71 Duster 340. That was the last year of the Mopar hi-compression engines, and that car (at a ridiculously underrated 275 hp) used to eat 350/350 Novas for lunch, it could even hold its own against 396 Novas and Chevelles - which were quite popular, back in the day.

At the '70 NY car show I asked the Mopar guys why the Chevy 350 was rated at 350hp, while the MOPAR 340 was so comparatively low on hp. They look at each other and laughed a little, then told me that motor was purposely underrated, as the insurance companies had been targeting MOPAR owners with ridiculously high premiums, based on engine hp. They said that engine was actually outputting in the 350-360hp range. Add headers and some carburation tweaking and it was truly a fast little ride. By '72 it was all over - MOPAR had to cut the compression in all their performance engines (GM did that in '71), and that was when true high-perf American engines went away.

Quick story about my Duster 340. That car was kind of bare-bones, with a bench seat up front, and a factory floor-mounted Hurst "pistol grip" shifter in the floor. With the 4.10 gears that we put in it, I would launch HARD! Not to mention that my "One-Two" upshift was so strong that I actually put a deep dent in the seat where the shifter (and my hand) would hit it. One late night on 231 in Babylon I was racing a Mustang Mach 1 just south of the SS Parkway light. I pulled second so hard that I yanked the shifter right out of the floor. Race over, he won. I still had 2nd gear, but that was it, couldn't up or down shift. Had to drive home to Plainedge from Babylon at less than 20mph, straight down Sunrise Hwy. What a nite that was.

So next day I got under her and saw that the way Plymouth mounted the Hurst shifter to the transmission had an aluminum adapter plate between the shifter body and the box, and that was what cracked. So I went to my local Plymouth dealer for a replacement and of course no dice, none in stock. And because it was around the holidays the MOPAR warehouse was closed - no shipping until after Jan.1 - a solid week away.

What to do? So I hitched a ride to my job in Bay Shore - my boss lived in Bethpage and took me in with him. After I explained the problem, first he called me an idiot for messing around with hot rods to begin with, then he asked if I had tried SK Speed in Farmingdale, or the Mars Store in Bay Shore - both having a good supply of hot rod stuff. I called SK and that was a strike-out. At lunch we took a ride into Bayshore town to the Mars store - and damn, they had a box of the MOPAR shifter adapter plates in stock. Who would have thought? I got her back together that next day, and was a lot more careful with that 1-2 shift for the rest of the time I owned that car.
 
yes, Bud Morris was a motorhead from Seaford and did that six-pack himself. Taught me how to pack wheel bearings and I assisted with shock absorber replacements, etc. We met in grad school and I think he went on for a PHD. For a while he helped Pete Ocello run that gas station on Sunrise in Wantagh that was in that triangle, the north fork of which ran NW towards Mulcaheys.
 
Yep, that property is currently vacant. Sun Buick/GMC was parking inventory there for a while, but no longer. Sun also used to be the local Pontiac dealer, but that went the way of many other formerly great car lines. Gone forever.
 
Nice to look back at what we sported around in. One of my first rides was a 69 Chevelle that was destroyed by hurricane Gloria. Then I moved onto a 72 Challenger had that till I finally sold it. Then got more practical cars, until about 4 years ago I bought my wife a 68 Mustang kept it for two years and ended up selling it. Now driving around in pickup truck, those were the days.
 
I snapped a rod in my wife's 77 Special Edition Charger's trunk and vowed to never again buy or drive a coupe/sedan. Its been all station wagons, hatchbacks, crossovers and now a pickup for us. the girls did like my first two Mustangs...
 
Great stories.

Always admired muscle cars. As a kid, I grew up not too far from connecting highway. First time I ever saw a car use a parachute to stop! Was a GTO if I remember.....stuck in my mind.
 
When I was 22, I hated my Olds Cutlass. So I traded it in for a 1972 Firebird Trans Am. It cost all of $4400 brand new. 454ci V8 with a 4 speed Hurst Close Ratio shifter. Man, could that car go. But, I was 22, young and foolish. In February 1973, we had the first gas "shortage." I was getting 11 mpg. 88 miles round trip to work in the Bronx and a 16 gallon tank. That meant coming home on the second day on fumes. Bye, Bye Firebird. Ah, but what a car.
 
I’ve owned an original ‘72 Vette Coupe, 454, 4-speed, red over black leather. 49K miles. 100% matching numbers for 35 years. I restored it myself many, many years ago. Not the fastest car I’ve owned, but fast enough for me. Also probably the prettiest car I’ve ever owned, and that’s saying something. It needs to be re-restored before I can road ride it again.
 
Great stories.

Always admired muscle cars. As a kid, I grew up not too far from connecting highway. First time I ever saw a car use a parachute to stop! Was a GTO if I remember.....stuck in my mind.
I am sure this thread could go on forever with guys remembering all the fast rides we owned back in the day. I used to live in Flushing and also remember going to connecting highway every Friday night to watch and sometimes participate in the impromptu races. As I recall it was a pretty narrow stirp and you had to be really careful not to bounce off the concrete walls on the inside. Also used to wonder why so many times the local cops would just be sitting there watching us race and not write tickets?

Now for another strange coincidence. I have known Lep for around 30 years and while we spoke about is Charger in the past and I have seen his Corvette every time I am at his house, I never knew he had a Duster 340. My very first car was the same vehicle with the same bench seat and manual Hurst tyranny on the floor. In fact, at the time of purchase I didn't even know how to drive a standard transmission! My Dad and I went to Reedman Moters in PA, bought the car off the lot, and I learned how to drive a stick on the way home that day!!

Following that I too had more than a few exciting drag races and no doubt that car was very quick. Hell, it only weighed something like 2,000# so not much to tote around other than engine and crew! I clearly recall blowing the doors off a friend's current model Camaro with a stock 350 small block Chevy engine in his rig. He was pissed!!!
 
wen the infrastructure bill / $$$ was approved a 2/3 years ago, many streets in downtown manhattan were repaved…

most likely the streets will be cut up again anyway from various projects in time…

sadly Suffolk County officials and politicians, can’t see” the disarray of the RMC… I was never fond of NYSDOT / NYCDOT… oy vey… cell…
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I am sure this thread could go on forever with guys remembering all the fast rides we owned back in the day. I used to live in Flushing and also remember going to connecting highway every Friday night to watch and sometimes participate in the impromptu races. As I recall it was a pretty narrow stirp and you had to be really careful not to bounce off the concrete walls on the inside. Also used to wonder why so many times the local cops would just be sitting there watching us race and not write tickets?

Now for another strange coincidence. I have known Lep for around 30 years and while we spoke about is Charger in the past and I have seen his Corvette every time I am at his house, I never knew he had a Duster 340. My very first car was the same vehicle with the same bench seat and manual Hurst tyranny on the floor. In fact, at the time of purchase I didn't even know how to drive a standard transmission! My Dad and I went to Reedman Moters in PA, bought the car off the lot, and I learned how to drive a stick on the way home that day!!

Following that I too had more than a few exciting drag races and no doubt that car was very quick. Hell, it only weighed something like 2,000# so not much to tote around other than engine and crew! I clearly recall blowing the doors off a friend's current model Camaro with a stock 350 small block Chevy engine in his rig. He was pissed!!!
I never get tired of the old stories. Brings me back to a simpler time but mostly the memories of people and places no longer here.
 

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