Firewood

[Chinacat]

SS- That's funny... I have that exact same weather station display in the back coldest wing in my house. It says says its up to 9 outside now and 65 in that wing with no heat running. In this extreme cold I kick the heat on every so often so the hot water heat loops cycle every to keep them moving just in case...

 

[crabby]

I don't think there is too much of a difference between the two types of stoves as far as heating goes. The inserts have a blower to circulate the heat.
I wish I could have a stove here, but there's no room for a vent. Unless I go with a pellet stove and vent it through the wall.

 

[wader]

In addition to a blower - the stove itself heats up & throws that off into the room - also - once the room warms up enough & starts to reach the point where it's beginning to get too hot - I shut the blower off - but the heat from the stove itself keeps the room warm without the blower being on

Same thing earlier in the season when you just want to take the "chill" out of the room - don't use the blower - the stove is enough to do that.
with an insert - that "ambient heat" is going up the chimney

Additionally - see all that rock behind the stove? that's heating up as well providing more ambient heat

So yes.

There is a difference.

Also - cheaper to install if you are adding it to a new build as you don't have the high cost of adding a brick chimney to vent it.

That stove ran me about $5000. That included:

• the stove itself
• installation
• stone for the hearth & back walls
  • I built the hearth & back walls so no labor cost was involved to do that - just material

Building a fireplace - then putting an insert into it is probably around $10,000 easily I would guess.
And you get more heat with a stove.

 

[crabby]

I don't think most people build a fireplace to put an insert in it.

 

[wader]

I think initially your right they will warm the room they are in quicker but for overall heating of a home I believe an insert is best (could be wrong). I'm burning wood and oil today.

that stove heats the entire 1st floor of the house which is where I spend 95% of my time without assistance from anything else - keeps it between 70 to 80 degrees depending on the put side temperature - it's an ungodly & unusual temperature of 22 outside right now - hallway thermometer is telling me it's 72 there - hallway is in the center of the 1st floor - so warmer in the family room & kitchen which is closer to the stove

 

[wader]

Looks nice Wader.
You don't keep them logs underneath there while burning a fire do ya???

yeah - they warm up a bit but they are also the next ones going into the stove - helps with the seasoning process

 

[wader]

that stove heats the entire 1st floor of the house which is where I spend 95% of my time without assistance from anything else - keeps it between 70 to 80 degrees depending on the outside temperature - it's an ungodly & unusual temperature of 22 outside right now - hallway thermometer is telling me it's 72 there - hallway is in the center of the 1st floor - so warmer in the family room & kitchen which is closer to the stove

does send some heat to the second floor - can't tell how much though

 

[crabby]

that stove heats the entire 1st floor of the house which is where I spend 95% of my time - keeps it betten 70 to 80 degrees depending on the put side temperature - it's an ungodly & unusual temperature of 22 outside right now - hallway thermometer is telling me it's 72 there - hallway is in the center of the 1st floor - so warmer in the family room & kitchen which is closer to the stove

That's way too warm for me. Is it hard to control?

 

[wader]

I don't think most people build a fireplace to put an insert in it.

SS was saying he was going to do that which is why I threw that in there

 

[wader]

That's way too warm for me. Is it hard to control?

no - you just have to know when to damp it & when not to - also how to work the amount of wood going in

If I'm not going to be sitting in the room with it (say to watch TV - mine's located in there) & it's really cold outside - I've got it wide open Like today. I would hazard a guess it's hovering around 75-78 in there now. I'll damp it down as evening approaches & most likely kill the blower when I go in to watch TV tonight.

Again - it's all a matter of learning how to work it.
Want a little heat? Keep the fire smaller - maybe no blower or blower on low. Want a lot of heat? Keep the fire larger use the blower.

My blower has two settings to control the fan - high & low.

Joe - they can be vented through the wall - I've seen that.

 

[crabby]

SS was saying he was going to do that which is why I threw that in there

Looking at what Mitch has, that might be the way to go. You still get the fireplace feel with the added benefit of the heat.

I like your type of stove where you can see the fire. To many stoves don't have that feature.

 

[crabby]

Joe - they can be vented through the wall - I've seen that.

Pretty sure that you have to vent a wood burner straight up here.. Pellets can go through the wall.

 

[wader]

The wall opposite from the the wall my stove opens up into me kitchen area where I'm typing right now. Hallway (where the thermostat I mentioned earlier) is to the right of the picture. There is another two rooms in that direction (large foyer & a dining room). That is the area the stove is providing heat for. Stairs for upstairs bedrooms comes off the foyer which is about as far away from the stove without going upstairs that you can get.

This all gets heated............

 

[wader]

Pretty sure that you have to vent a wood burner straight up here.. Pellets can go through the wall.

they prefer straight up (makes it a lot easier for the installer & of course better draft) but I have seen them going out a wall.......

If you're serious about doing something - either pellet or wood stove - check to see what is necessary.

 

[MakoMike]

yeah - they warm up a bit but they are also the next ones going into the stove - helps with the seasoning process

You should rethink that, there's a reason the fire codes say no flammable material within 6feet of the stove.

 

[wader]

yes - it can go through a wall........................

Wood Stove Installation Step 3 - Vertical or Horizontal Chimney Pipe Venting wood stove installation wood stove installation Depending on the build of your home and where you place your wood burning stove, applications will vary. You will need to determine if your wood burning stove will be vented through the wall or through the ceiling.

well there ya go

 

[wader]

You should rethink that, there's a reason the fire codes say no flammable material within 6feet of the stove.

I've been doing this for 5 years. The wood under stove is not there long enough to reach combustible temperature. I pick it up with unprotected hands Mike. It's only warm to the touch.

 

[crabby]

yes - it can go through a wall........................

Wood Stove Installation Step 3 - Vertical or Horizontal Chimney Pipe Venting wood stove installation wood stove installation Depending on the build of your home and where you place your wood burning stove, applications will vary. You will need to determine if your wood burning stove will be vented through the wall or through the ceiling.

well there ya go

I'm talking about Nassau County codes.

 

[crabby]

I've been doing this for 5 years. The wood under stove is not there long enough to reach combustible temperature. I pick it up with unprotected hands Mike. It's only warm to the touch.

Don't fall asleep with it there. Not a good move.

 

[wader]

Don't fall asleep with it there. Not a good move.

I do that all the time......................

By the time I'm going to bed the fire is close to out - smoldering embers most of the time - sometimes some flame left to it.

I prefer it to let it burn out overnight - like to start with a nice clean fresh firebox each day.