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captneilf

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Hi Anglers,

Thanks to George we have a new home. I will be checking in often to read what is going on and if I can add good and proper content I will. I hope this forum
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Captneilf
 
Welcome Neil & Ralph. Glad to have you guys aboard...Let's get you fellas working...

I recently had a "mishap" with a CTS BS702 that exploded while I was setting the hook on a tog. It was a brand new rod out on it's third trip and BOOM! I have another BS702 that I've been using for tog for several years and never had an issue.

I'm wondering, have either of you heard about this particular blank having issues exploding or is mine an isolated incident?
 
Hi Savvy,

This is not a yes or no answer. Not black or white. But multi faceted.

1. Being that the rod is new, 3rd trip, it could be a manufacturing issue. CTS has to be able to determine that. Contact them if you have not already.

2. The blank/rod could have been banged against something hard. and may break at a latter date. Picture scoring a piece of glass and then tapping the score to cut the glass.

3. Risk vs reward! Trying to catch fish is always an evolution of choices. Years ago we were meat fishermen, used strong sticks so we could swing heavy fish and catch them as fast and as many as possible while the bite was on. Todays regulations and very small limits have caused many fishermen to choose lighter rods so they can have more fun. That is the risk, fishing too lite. The reward is that you have more fun fighting the fish. Possibility of a broken rod OR more fun. A choice for which the angler is held responsible.

I have broken a couple of rods due to RISK! I would do it all over again. Jigging blues on lite tackle was a blast and then trying to swing them in the boat, man that was fun. However I accepted the responsibility for the broken rods. As a rod builder I just built myself a new one.

4. When the CTS blanks first hit the market several of the BS's did break. If I remember correctly maybe 15-18" below the tip. They are great blanks and my customers liked them. I alerted CTS to the problem as I am sure others did and they redesigned the blank and beefed it up in some areas.

5. CTS was good in that they would build a blank to a customers design. This is how the Capt Neil, CN 700 series of blanks came about. I had them add some flex and make the blank more moderate and beef it up just a bit. They were great blanks for our type/style of fishing Long Island.

I hope this helps a bit and hopefully gets the juices flowing for responses. Just my thoughts and am interested in hearing for you out there. We need your questions and responses to make this a great forum.

Neil
Welcome Neil & Ralph. Glad to have you guys aboard...Let's get you fellas working...

I recently had a "mishap" with a CTS BS702 that exploded while I was setting the hook on a tog. It was a brand new rod out on it's third trip and BOOM! I have another BS702 that I've been using for tog for several years and never had an issue.

I'm wondering, have either of you heard about this particular blank having issues exploding or is mine an isolated incident?
 
Welcome Neil & Ralph. Glad to have you guys aboard...Let's get you fellas working...

I recently had a "mishap" with a CTS BS702 that exploded while I was setting the hook on a tog. It was a brand new rod out on it's third trip and BOOM! I have another BS702 that I've been using for tog for several years and never had an issue.

I'm wondering, have either of you heard about this particular blank having issues exploding or is mine an isolated incident?

I have heard this happening on a couple of CTS blanks but no more than any other manufacturer
 
Neil, you're right, once again. The blank broke about 24" below the tip. Sounded like a firecracker. After all the planning & time we put into that rod, it was a real heart breaker, to say the least.

You're also right that I "pushed the envelope" with that rod (and my other BS702 tog rod) in order to get MAXIMUM enjoyment out of every tog I catch. I had many discussions about if / when one of my lighter sticks was gonna explode on the hookset of a big fish. Just hadn't planned on it happening after three trips on the newest rod.

There certainly is a risk vs. reward factor involved in this method of using the absolute lightest tackle you can get away with and still accomplish your mission of landing BIG tog on a consistent basis. I have landed a few 10+ fish on my other BS702 and the thrill it gives me is what inspired me to build a 2nd BS702 for the same purposes.

I also use my BS702 for deep water & live bait fluking. Love the rod and it's action so I'm not going to let this experience dissuade me from building another one. Matter-of-fact, the new blank is on its way.

Thanks Neil & Ralph for your input. I figured you guys would have some experience with this topic.
 
Hi Savvy,
While at our traditional Holiday lunch last Friday, Capt. Neil, Lep, and myself were having this very same discussion. I too, like most avid anglers like to go as light as possible within reason. I am a big fan of the CTS blanks and over the years Neil has built 3 outstanding sticks that have stood the test of time now going on, I believe, at least 6 years.

The first rod is a BS703 which is my go to Tog stick and I have landed a few 10# + fish on it with no problem. I also use that rod for the deep water Sea Bassing I do in the eastern Sound and it holds up just fine, often having to carry 10-12 oz. lead in a hard moving tide.

The next rod is a CN702, obviously a lighter blank, with plenty of flex and that is my favorite Fluke jigger, shallow or deep. I feel I can effectively work bucktails up to 4 oz. on that stick. I was extremely fortunate on my Montauk south side trips this summer and landed 3 gorgeous doormats just over 10# each on that rod and she never broke a sweat...I sure did!

The third and newest of my collection is about a 3 year old BS704, the heaviest of the lot. I use that mainly for Striped Bass in Plum Gut and the Race plus some winter Cod trips and it actually seems almost overmatched!

I am sure you and most others who invest in this level of rod building technology do their best to protect their gear. Still accidents can happen to the best of us, especially on a rough day or slippery deck. I also have to agree with Neil that not every product is perfect and factory defects sometimes happen. I guess I have been lucky to this point but I have nothing but good things to say about the CTS blanks. One other thing, personally, I never swing a fish aboard even with that beast of a BS704. IMHO that's what leaders are for!
Capt. Mike
 
I just bought a new calstar 700ml. The butt and fore grip are para cord wrapped......is this a west coast thing? I like it but hope the damn thing don't unravel lol!!
 

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