Are they or are they not circle hook test.

Is it a Circle Hook?

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Loonzter

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Yes I understand that, a snell knot keeps the line in line wit da shank, but wouldn’t a knot tru the eye do the same; it’s still in line on a pull... cellie...
From what I've read you do not want an octopus style hook. Using a circle hook with no offset eye allows you to thread the leader from the inside out through the eye. Thats from the hook point side of the hook eye out the other side before snelling. Doing this turns the hook 'in' when under tension increasing the likelihood of the circle hook catching into the jaw of the fish on its way out. it looks awkward but makes sense when you think about it. Just what I've read.
 

CELLFISH

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From what I've read you do not want an octopus style hook. Using a circle hook with no offset eye allows you to thread the leader from the inside out through the eye. Thats from the hook point side of the hook eye out the other side before snelling. Doing this turns the hook 'in' when under tension increasing the likelihood of the circle hook catching into the jaw of the fish on its way out. it looks awkward but makes sense when you think about it. Just what I've read.

I understand da theory, but for someone who never snells an offset circle cauz I can’t, most 90% of my fish a jaw hooked...

still not sure purpose of offset eye... cellie....
 

Roccus7

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I understand da theory, but for someone who never snells an offset circle cauz I can’t, most 90% of my fish a jaw hooked...

still not sure purpose of offset eye... cellie....

Snelling circles waste of time, either crimp 'em if you're using the heavy stuff like I do, or use a Palomar Knot instead of snelling or using an unimproved clinch...
 

Capt13

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To do that I think you would need a different hook than what is shown above. A straight eye instead of one turned down or turned up to be able to achieve a straight pull in line with the shank.
 
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CELLFISH

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btw, big mouthed fish swallowing da hook deep ain’t gonna save em... cellie...
 

CELLFISH

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btw, I need to be more selective when buying hooks, wide variety of Strait Eye circle hooks available... cellie...

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Loonzter

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I understand da theory, but for someone who never snells an offset circle cauz I can’t, most 90% of my fish a jaw hooked...

still not sure purpose of offset eye... cellie....
Well, if the hook is offset it can still hook anywhere in the fish (stomach). When the eye is offset the tension of the leader would be straight in line with the shank. In essence pulling the hook straight. Snelling a hook is not rocket science, in fact there are so many different ways anglers do it you could pick the way thats easiest for you to practice and learn. I understand some have digit impediments preventing them the dexterity to tye hooks but there are tools you can purchase to allow most anyone the ability to tye just about any knot. Just saying, google and amazon are amazing ways to acquire and gain knowledge.
 

CELLFISH

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I’m a good knotter, but again snelling 100# mono 👎...

hey here’s a good vid of a snell maker, but da creep is using cotton as example... cellie...

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CELLFISH

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here’s another dude says his knot is fool proof, “ I would never try dis one . “... cellie...

 

Capt13

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btw, big mouthed fish swallowing da hook deep ain’t gonna save em... cellie...

We switched to circle hooks one year (more than ten yrs ago) when we were on a "stupid fishing" striped bass bite at Montauk. Cellie, you are right. There was a percentage of fish where the circle hook set and the fish came up gut hooked.
 
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CELLFISH

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Snelling circles waste of time, either crimp 'em if you're using the heavy stuff like I do, or use a Palomar Knot instead of snelling or using an unimproved clinch...

Hey R7, I have a number of offset eye hooks that would serve me better if they weren’t, ya think tampering the eye straight would damage the strength of da hook at that point... cellie...
 

chunkster

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It looks Greek to me.

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chunkster

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Where did I get that saying from? I read the book. I have many others.
After years and years of reading magazines what I started to notice is
it got repetitive.


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sytheteacher

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I use circle hooks for all my fishing ventures even for Porgies.. I crush all the barbs on all the circle hooks so it will be an easier release..
 

sytheteacher

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I used to buy all my hooks, 3-way swivels, leader material ect from Terminal Tackle in Kings Park. They are gone now. What a shame.

Does anyone know of a similar on-line store that sells similar items?
Me too.. They had all the great deals and their catalog was excellent reading in the toilet..
 

pequa1

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, it should be obvious
Fishing for striped bass using natural baits? Make sure you’re using a non-offset, inline circle hook – it’s now officially a coastwide regulation, with no exception!

On October 21, 2020, the Atlantic Striped Bass Management Board (Board) of the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC) met electronically as part of the 79th Annual Meeting to review the specifications for implementing the new circle hook requirement along the Atlantic coast.

Approved in October 2019, the change to the Atlantic Striped Bass Interstate Fishery Management Plan (FMP) implemented coastwide harvest reductions put in place in 2020, while also requiring the mandatory use of circle hooks when fishing with bait to reduce release mortality in recreational striped bass fisheries. As per the FMP, states are required to implement circle hook requirements by January 1, 2021.

At the October 21 meeting, each state provided its implementation plan complete with any requested exemptions for review and approval. While the proposed regulatory language varied slightly from state to state, at its core the meaning and intent was consistent across all proposals. The only states that submitted exemption requests were Maine, Massachusetts and the Potomac River Fisheries Commission (though the Potomac River Fisheries Commission subsequently withdrew its exemption request and modified its proposal for year-round circle hook requirement).

Maine asked that rubber or latex tube rigs be exempt from the circle hook restriction as long as they conform with the following: the lure must consist of a minimum of 8 inches of latex rubber tubing with a single hook protruding from the end portion of the tubing where bait may be attached. Use of treble hooks is not allowed with these rigs.

Massachusetts sought a circle hook exemption for anglers fishing onboard for-hire vessels; furthermore, Massachusetts asked that the circle hook requirement for shore-bound and private shall not apply to any artificial lure designed to be trolled, cast and retrieved, or vertically jigged with natural bait attached.

Prior to withdrawing their exemption request, the Potomac River Fisheries Commission sought to have the circle requirement not be required prior to May 1 during catch and release season (barbless hooks required).

A motion was made by Tom Fote (NJ) and seconded by Dennis Abbot (NH) to approve the implementation plans but to prohibit any states from gear or user exemptions. A motion to substitute was then made by Megan Ware (ME) to approve the implementation plans and exemptions with the exception of the Massachusetts for-hire exemption; it was seconded by Justin Davis (CT). After lengthy discussion, the motion failed by a count of five in favor (RI, ME, MA, DE, NC), eight opposed (DC, PA, NJ, VA, NH, NY, MD, VA, NC PRFC), one null (CT), and two abstains (USFWS, NMFS).

The original motion was then called and it passed with a vote of 15 in favor (ME, NH, MA, RI, NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, PRFC, VA, NC, NMFS, USFWS) and one opposed (CT) thereby approving and requiring the use of circle hooks by all recreational anglers when targeting striped bass with any kind of live or dead natural bait effective January 1, 2021. No exemptions were made for gear type or user groups and therefore this regulation includes shore-bound, private boat and anglers onboard for-hire vessels.

With no gear type exemptions allowed, the new circle hook requirement in place for 2021 includes but is not limited to such angling techniques as a tube and worm; eelskin rig; rigged eel; the addition of pork rind, squid, etc. to a bucktail jig; and any and all other scenarios where a natural bait is added to an artificial lure when targeting striped bass.

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The FMP defines a ‘circle hook’ as a non-offset hook where the point is pointed perpendicularly back towards the shank. The term ‘non-offset’ means the point and barb are in the same plane as the shank (e.g., when the hook is laying on a flat surface, the entire hook and barb also lay flat).
 

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