I always Stress about this kind of thing happening . . .

Leprechaun

Leprechaun

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I've a few close calls of this sort over the years. Never had another boat hit me, but close enough near-misses to worry.

At least the anchored boat in the vid could see him coming. Two seasons ago we were drifting with the fleet offshore, in a substantial early morning fog - everyone with running lights on, most with their engines idling, all observing "social distancing," as we knew it back then. And off in the distance we could hear a good-sized boat running hard, West to East, getting closer and closer.

Started to freak, as the conditions called for very careful, slow-speed operation. The other boat kept closing the distance, and we could hear its rather loud inboard engines, so we knew it was a good-sized vessel. We reeled up and I manned the helm - just in time to see a 35' Tiara come flying by like a freight train, no more than 30' off my transom, running at least 20 knots - on full plane. He disappeared into the fog as quickly as he had appeared. Jesus, God, I was completely skitzed out. My knees were weak for an hour afterwards.

There are a few such boats that are regulars out there, but it all happened so fast that I never caught the name on the transom. Much more concerned with not ending up swimming in 80' of water. Or worse. Much worse.

I just don't understand people like that. Is catching a few dopey fluke THAT important to such people that rushing around in a very heavy fog is called for?

Anyway, it was a good lesson in "Defensive Boating," as one can not blindly trust that everyone's brain is wired correctly.
 
As far as the video, I would have been blowing my horn and yelling long before that guy did.

Fog scares me. You have to do use your ears to try and stay safe. Or just not go out.
 
You can't fix stupid, and the more idiots you get in boats, closer together, it gets even more stupid!!

I look at my radar dome as protection for a day that an unforecasted fog rolls in so I can get home, not a license to go out in a fog...
 
Over in the Sound I usually see a pack of 30 boats fluking the same drift over and over before a guy comes in and drops anchor. Then the chunks come out. Kind of the exact opposite of this video. The look of bewilderment always makes me angry lol.
 
BoatGuy said:
As far as the video, I would have been blowing my horn and yelling long before that guy did.

Fog scares me. You have to do use your ears to try and stay safe. Or just not go out.
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The problem with fog is, where the sound is coming form is deceiving, you can't trust your ears, I have been out in the fog many times with and without radar, I had a boat almost hit me when I thought he was coming straight at me, he was coming up on my stern, even with radar you have to take it very slow, boats show up out of nowhere.
 
And in a related vein, a 22' Angler center console flipped in Jones Inlet yesterday, dumping four guys into a very rough ocean. The Coast Guard pulled three of them out of the water, the fourth not found.

JI has really become one of the more dangerous South Shore inlets. With the so-called "channel" now all the way to the West, the waves really pile up as one reaches the edge of the West Bar. Just not enough water there.

Even last season I managed to misread the wave set and buried the bow of my Shamrock 26 - with at least 200 gallons of water coming aboard. One of the more scary episodes of my long boating life.

While I caught a few decent ones that day, once I got through and out into the open water, it wasn't worth the soaking me and the inside of the boat took though. Even with close to 50 seasons of transiting JI, its not a hard task to really screw up there - especially the past 4 or 5 seasons.

Haven't been out this season as yet, but I hear its gotten even worse. I can hardly wait. . .
 
Ah yes, I only see two options. Hit he air horns first and if that doesn't work a Shot over the bow.

Edit, this is for the numb video. :)
 
Fluke Whisperer said:
The problem with fog is, where the sound is coming form is deceiving, you can't trust your ears, I have been out in the fog many times with and without radar, I had a boat almost hit me when I thought he was coming straight at me, he was coming up on my stern, even with radar you have to take it very slow, boats show up out of nowhere.
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I agree. I was referring to the video where there was no fog. That guys should of started to yell way before he did. He seemed more intent on getting a good dramatic video, and proving he was right.
 
Leprechaun said:
And in a related vein, a 22' Angler center console flipped in Jones Inlet yesterday, dumping four guys into a very rough ocean. The Coast Guard pulled three of them out of the water, the fourth not found.

JI has really become one of the more dangerous South Shore inlets. With the so-called "channel" now all the way to the West, the waves really pile up as one reaches the edge of the West Bar. Just not enough water there.

Even last season I managed to misread the wave set and buried the bow of my Shamrock 26 - with at least 200 gallons of water coming aboard. One of the more scary episodes of my long boating life.

While I caught a few decent ones that day, once I got through and out into the open water, it wasn't worth the soaking me and the inside of the boat took though. Even with close to 50 seasons of transiting JI, its not a hard task to really screw up there - especially the past 4 or 5 seasons.

Haven't been out this season as yet, but I hear its gotten even worse. I can hardly wait. . .
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It is worse. I have been out twice. Once on a shakedown, and another last Tuesday to try for blackfish.

Both days the weather was nice and I went through near slack or the first of outgoing. The layout of the buoys is foolish. The 1 / 2 buoys are not lined up with the 3 / 4 buoys. It is pointless to even use the 1 / 2 buoys. I have my GPS zeroed in on the 3 / 4 set. From there even if you head towards the 5 buoy you get really close to the breakers on the east bar. You need to head a little to the west and watch the breakers there. I think that when it gets nasty there will be breakers across the channel. You really have to time your trips around incoming water. Trying to get through on a bad day at the peak of outgoing is going to be treacherous.

Yesterday at 10:00 AM, they were between the peak of outgoing (7:56AM) and slack water (11:56AM). This is from the NOAA current tables.

2020-05-02 04:51 AM slack -
2020-05-02 07:56 AM ebb -2.63 knts
2020-05-02 11:56 AM slack -



Boat capsizes in Jones Inlet, one dead, one missing.

POINT LOOKOUT, N.Y. — A Farmingdale man died Saturday and another man remains missing after a boat capsized near Jones Beach inlet off Long Island, Nassau County police said.

John Costa, 54, was trying to navigate his 22-foot Angler fishing boat through rough water near Point Lookout around 10 a.m. when the boat was hit by multiple large waves, which overturned the vessel, Nassau police said. Costa and three passengers were thrown into the water.

Not long after, a family on another boat spotted two men in the water and called for help. The good Samaritans pulled the 24-year-old and 26-year-old into their boat and continued to look for the other victims until authorities arrived.

Both men were treated for hypothermia and non-life-threatening injuries at an area hospital.

A massive search was launched by the United States Coast Guard, Nassau County First Precinct, New York City Police Aviation Bureau, and multiple Fire Departments for the remaining boaters.

Costa was later pulled from the water and pronounced dead at a hospital, Nassau police said.

There were 11 total boat crews and four helicopter crews utilized in the search, according to the Coast Guard. However, by 10 p.m., the search for the fourth boater, a 55 year-old man, was called off pending new information, officials said.

"Our deepest condolences go out to the families and friends of those who were lost and affected by this tragic incident," said Cmdr. Valerie Boyd, a search and rescue mission coordinator with Sector Long Island Sound.

The boat was removed from the water by the Nassau County Marine Bureau and the investigation is ongoing, police said.
 
Leprechaun said:
And in a related vein, a 22' Angler center console flipped in Jones Inlet yesterday, dumping four guys into a very rough ocean. The Coast Guard pulled three of them out of the water, the fourth not found.

JI has really become one of the more dangerous South Shore inlets. With the so-called "channel" now all the way to the West, the waves really pile up as one reaches the edge of the West Bar. Just not enough water there.

Even last season I managed to misread the wave set and buried the bow of my Shamrock 26 - with at least 200 gallons of water coming aboard. One of the more scary episodes of my long boating life.

While I caught a few decent ones that day, once I got through and out into the open water, it wasn't worth the soaking me and the inside of the boat took though. Even with close to 50 seasons of transiting JI, its not a hard task to really screw up there - especially the past 4 or 5 seasons.

Haven't been out this season as yet, but I hear its gotten even worse. I can hardly wait. . .
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Agree with you Lep about JI. Having made the trip through JI coming or going hundreds of times, I know firsthand you have to know what you are doing around low tide as it appears was the conditions for that poor boat. Coming or going a lot of boats take short cut heading East near the jetty and that is suicide near low tide. Just stay within the channel markers. No fish is worth your life!:cry:
 
Kinda strange how you made this post and soon after this bad news is heard about the loss of life in Jones. Sadly there will always be situations like this. It can happen to both the experienced and inexperienced boaters. Inlets change every year and your first few times each season an experienced boater will learn those changes. I can remember a time when heading east out of Moriches was best, then soon after heading east was deadly.

My strategy is If there's any doubt, don't do it.

It's so sad to see this so early in the season and my condolences goes out to all involved.
 
Although I no longer own a boat and enjoy having professional captains take me out fishing I do pay attention and notify the captain when I see a potential dangerous situation.Several boats I fish on the Captain is also the mate and can get caught up in the action and miss things,luckily that has not happened yet. THE ANCHORED BOAT WANTED TO VIDEO THIS AND FAILED TO TAKE NEEDED ACTION ALL TO PUT THIS ON YOU TUBE OR WHEREVER.

No doubt the drifting clowns are a bunch of MORONS with no clue but the anchored boat should have attempted to notify the drifters that they were on anchor VIA RADIO and had an air horn onboard to sound off loud enough that they would look and say Holy chit!

Hey what do I know since I don't drive the boat anymore.HOOPER DRIVES THE BOAT CHIEF!
 
Togilator said:
Although I no longer own a boat and enjoy having professional captains take me out fishing I do pay attention and notify the captain when I see a potential dangerous situation.Several boats I fish on the Captain is also the mate and can get caught up in the action and miss things,luckily that has not happened yet. THE ANCHORED BOAT WANTED TO VIDEO THIS AND FAILED TO TAKE NEEDED ACTION ALL TO PUT THIS ON YOU TUBE OR WHEREVER.

No doubt the drifting clowns are a bunch of MORONS with no clue but the anchored boat should have attempted to notify the drifters that they were on anchor VIA RADIO and had an air horn onboard to sound off loud enough that they would look and say Holy chit!

Hey what do I know since I don't drive the boat anymore.HOOPER DRIVES THE BOAT CHIEF!
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Well, we all know how Quint made out, he should have listen to the Chief, We're gonna need a bigger boat.
 

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