NY fish regulations

[BoatGuy]

Hello all

I know as a rule they always wait until the last minute. Will the new fishing regs be posted soon?

Trying to plan trips, and don't want to plan a (just an example) May 1st Fluke trip if the season starts a week later, I remember voting.

Just asking.

 

[Hunter704]

I am sure as always they will wait till the last minute to post the fluke regs.

 

[pequa1]

19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season.

 

[Hunter704]

won’t be many keepers caught this year

 

[BoatGuy]

19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season.

That has been solidified? Darn. I guess I'll have to cancel my May 3rd trip.

They sent out that survey. I am finding hard to imagine fisherman would have voted for a 19.5 minimum size option.

*DEEP SIGH*

I just checked the website. They have not updated it yet: Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulations

 

[Roccus7]

That has been solidified? Darn. I guess I'll have to cancel my May 3rd trip.

They sent out that survey. I am finding hard to imagine fisherman would have voted for a 19.5 minimum size option.

*DEEP SIGH*

I just checked the website. They have not updated it yet: Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulations

Not final, but very probable. Your booking on a early May Friday was a real crapshoot as opening day has historically been on a Saturday in the recent past, IIRC...

Here's a summary of what happened at ASMFC on Monday:

New York hasn't yet announced what its 2024 fluke, scup, and Hudson River striped bass regulations will look like, but recent actions at the ASMFC are finally providing some strong indications of what they will be.

This afternoon, a meeting of the Atlantic Striped Bass Management Board approved a narrower, 23- to 28-inch slot for Hudson River striped bass, with no change to the bag limit or season. Such slot is estimated to achieve a 14.9% reduction in landings. A 14.1% reduction was required.

The ASMFC combines Connecticut and New York into a single region for summer flounder management purposes. This year, that caused some issues, as Connecticut favored a smaller (19") minimum size, reduced (3-fish) bag, and shorter (essentially mid-May through mid-September) season while New York, largely driven by its for-hire and fishing tackle industries, favored a larger (19 1/2") minimum size, the current (4-fish) bag, and a far longer (April 1-October 31) season. After many negotiating sessions, the states forged a compromise which included a 19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season. Such regulations meet the required 28% reduction, and will very probably be adopted by both states,

The ASMFC combines New York into a region with Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts for scup management. It appears that the minimum size for boat-based (including for-hire) anglers will increase from 10.5 to 11 inches, with no other changes to bag limit, seasons, or the shore-based size. Such size increase will achieve the required 10% reduction, and is virtually certain to be adopted.

 

[pequa1]

which is why I posted it as "probable" on another thread earlier

 

[Snapprhead27]

At least another month before we see anything solid.

 

[pequa1]

You dare doubt me ? LOL ! I would gladly trade this disaster for two at 18 1/2 or a slot of two or three at 18 1/2 to 22 or 23.

 

[Matts]

You dare doubt me ? LOL ! I would gladly trade this disaster for two at 18 1/2 or a slot of two or three at 18 1/2 to 22 or 23.

On my own boat, I do like to come home with at least two fish and could live with 2 at 18.5. How much fluke do I need to keep? But on a party/charter, I'd rather have 3 at 19.5, even 4 at 20.

I can still remember 14" and a thousand boats drifting under RMB all summer.

 

[pequa1]

With the exception of freshwater (license fee) I have never paid in order to fish but I can understand that reasoning. How many party boat customers come home with a limit every time ?

 

[BoatGuy]

I do not know how many times fluke fisherman have to catch 10 fluke to get a keeper. Sometimes even more.
Not sure what the survival of a hooked and released fish, especially if the fisherman does not handle the fish with care.

 

[pequa1]

Maybe because i put a Gulp! on a dressed bucktail (?) I had a total of 8 keepers out of just 3 dozen caught from the yak last year and all in the jaw. (No real bait used.)

 

[hartattack]

The Fluke regs that Pequa previously posted were approved by NY yesterday.
The split-season is a head-scratcher to me, and just like last year's NJ slot (now defunct) will be difficult to enforce.
And these regs remain in place for 2025 (MAFMC: Measures will be restricted to achieve the full 28% reduction in 2024 and then will remain unchanged in 2025 unless new information suggests a major change in the expected impacts of those measures on the stock or the fishery.)
==> https://dec.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/recreationalsaltwaterfishinglimits.pdf

 

[Hunter704]

We be a repeat of last year playing catch and release with all short fish, with a keeper if you’re lucky