O.K., Not really a ITT subject, BUT - New Limits?

I hope at 72 this June they don't persuade me to buy a lifetime license (again) instead of forking over annual fees. Hoping that young lady was right about the fluke regs, although they could cut the bag limit down...
 
I spoke to one of the reps at that booth. We were talking about reefs. He said the 16 fathom reef, southeast of Jones, southwest of Fire Island, and just south of the Nantucket to Ambrose traffic lane is still a possibility. He said they were ready to dump when materials come available!! That would be sweet!! I just hope it happens in my lifetime.
 
BoatGuy said:
I went to the Freeport show yesterday and bought a bunch of stuff that I didn't really need. I saw the NYS booth.

There was a very nice young lady. She told me fluke would stay the same. Porgy and BSB will face undetermined changes.

Plus I asked about another sore topic....Fishing licenses. Seems this year will be the same free license we are used to. However, 2024 may see the old paid fishing license return. She mentioned they most likely would do it like a fresh water license. She mentioned most have no objections to a paid license IF it goes to support the fishery. That is what they are working out. Of course when implemented, anyone volunteer to “follow the money” and make sure it is used for fishing?
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That will happen just like the lottery money goes to education. There is no fund in NYS that can't be raided. Not one.
 
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There’s a lot of PB guys waiting to hear about the Porgy situation. If any drastic changes are made you can bet you’ll start seeing people closing up shop.
 
BennyV said:
Some possibly. Others definitely not.

I can only speak for the boats I know and they aren’t breaking laws.

Kind of crazy that one or two fish species are literally keeping an industry going for most of the season.
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Without a doubt, over the last 3-4 seasons, scup have been the lifeline for the party boats.

I'm not going to get on the soap box here, but there is a very vocal movement in the recreational fishing community that thinks recreational fishing is only for C&R, and they refuse to acknowledge folks who like to fish AND bring home some fish for dinner. Since party boats' bread and butter clients fall into this category, their livelihood is threatened by these "I am holier than thou because I just play with fish for my recreation" group.
 
Roccus7 said:
Without a doubt, over the last 3-4 seasons, scup have been the lifeline for the party boats.

I'm not going to get on the soap box here, but there is a very vocal movement in the recreational fishing community that thinks recreational fishing is only for C&R, and they refuse to acknowledge folks who like to fish AND bring home some fish for dinner. Since party boats' bread and butter clients fall into this category, their livelihood is threatened by these "I am holier than thou because I just play with fish for my recreation" group.
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I’ve said this plenty of times.

Yes it’s the boats, but it’s also the local mom & pop bait shops, marinas, delis, gas stations, etc etc etc. The economic impact of losing PB/charter boat to the immediate community is much larger then the obvious.

I’ve seen both sides of the regulation coin. When I was kid a Striper was 36 inches to keep and seen only one or two times more then Bigfoot in my area. Guys would travel to find one. Now they’re literally everywhere.

The problem is if they want to impose harsher regs on fish like scup, is there a way to do it without decimating our local fleets of PBs & Charter boats? Absolutely. Will it be done. Who knows.
 
BoatGuy said:
What is at Kings Park?
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This is the Headquarters for the NYSDEC Marine Resource Division
123 Kings Park Blvd.
Kings Park, NY 11754

This coming Monday 2/27 at 6 p.m. there will be a meeting to review the responses to the survey asking us which one of 3 terrible options we would choose to reduce our harvesting of Sea Bass by 10% compared to last season.

There will be an "open comment" section and I plan to make my voice heard, backed up by my own, accurate data of what I and my customers have caught over the past 5 years in the Eastern LI Sound. I am quite sure that everyone who participates in this fishery has seen the same results as the Biomass of Sea Bass has increased steadily over the last 10 years. It is crazy that every time we follow the law and watch certain species rebound, the "knee jerk" reaction from the fisheries managers is to punish us!

If you can make this meeting, please join us and voice your own concerns.
 
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