Piping plover reprieve?

[MakoMatt]

And why do you think these regulations have been changed?

And how much can they change given the U.S. has signed treaties with other nations regarding the protection of the Piping Plover?

 

[Kona]

Pls read my original post, changing the definition of “ harm” changes the definition of “take” and that loosens the draconian regulations.

 

[MakoMatt]

Pls read my original post, changing the definition of “ harm” changes the definition of “take” and that loosens the draconian regulations.

Sorry, perhaps I didn’t phrase my question correctly.

What I was trying to find out was what you think was the driving force behind changing the regulations? Was it pressure from groups that use the beaches for recreational purposes, or are/were there other stakeholders involved, who are they, and what were their motives for getting the regulation changed?

 

[Kona]

The political climate has changed and some environmental regulations have been relaxed.

 

[Kona]

The roll back takes some of the extreme interpretations of the law out of the picture and strikes a balance between protecting threatened species and the rights of the people.

 

[MakoMatt]

The political climate has changed and some environmental regulations have been relaxed.

Be careful what you wish for…………

The government did not lesson the regulations so that you could have more beach for your recreational activities.

It did this because they were lobbied by the American Petroleum Institute, the National Mining Association, as well as big developers, and many others that have a financial stake in this.

I’m not an attorney but I think their are two obstacles that may slow this process down, if not entirely halt it.

1. It may ultimately be the decision of the local municipalities as the Dongan Patent appears to allow them to control the land, and they have allowed you and others the privilege of using the beach for your recreational activities, and enjoyment.

2. The United States is signatory to the Migratory Bird Act Treaty.

These two points will not necessarily halt the redefinition of The Endangered Species Act. I can see the present government just withdrawing from the treaty, and perhaps some higher ups in local government lining their pockets for allowing developers to build housing, condos, whatever, etc.

 

[Kona]

Our Town Trustees have a great management program and follow all Federal guidelines, this changes those guidelines, their constituents are the Residents and Freeholders of the Commonality of the Town of Southampton and we have been on their asses to follow the law and not the guidelines , due to a recently adjudicated lawsuit by a few oceanfront homeowners they were overzealous in their application of said guidelines. The lawsuit was settled now they can follow the law, less restrictive than the guidelines. It’s an election year for the entire Board and this is a huge issue , 3,500 4x4 permit holders is a lot of votes.

 

[Kona]

1. The Trustees hold some of our rights in trust, one of the most important is an easement that allows us to “ pass and re pass any beach in the Township “ with horse and buggy. This has gone to State course twice and upheld as to vehicles being allowed. They don’t allow us , it’s a right

 

[MakoMatt]

Looks like a lot of big businesses including developers may have some new “rights” now too concerning the land. And their interests do not necessarily align with your interests.

This isn’t my first rodeo. I’ve witnessed firsthand some deregulations, and the secret back room deals that were made. Good deals for the big business, not so much for others. Hopefully, this does not turn out to be one of those.