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It's assinine and suggesting a day trip to fish on a NJ headboat is even more assinine!

Waiting for DEC to start boarding NJ boats in NY waters and start writing tickets. We're well aware how NY regs suck. No need to keep throwing it in our face.
 
It's assinine and suggesting a day trip to fish on a NJ headboat is even more assinine!

Waiting for DEC to start boarding NJ boats in NY waters and start writing tickets. We're well aware how NY regs suck. No need to keep throwing it in our face.
^^^ if u think the point of my post is "to keep throwing it in our face", you need to think again. Many folks here are helpful and considerate, then there's you....
 
The sad part of this story is how New York dec is forced to have to follow ASMFC decisions its time for
NY to pass laws so NYSDEC is not forced to allow competing states to have smaller size limits as this is considered a tri-state area
 
What's sad in NJ boats fishing in NY waters for fluke and getting away with keeping 18" fish. So much for conservation. As long as NJ gets theirs you screw NY!
 
Here's a bit of clarification that may help. So, if you look at any decent chart plotter's cartography you will see that the NYS 3-mile line of demarcation almost completely bisects the ABR from West to East. So if the Jersey boats stay just on the other side of it, they are fishing Federal waters and are therefore immune from NYS DEC checks.

Once they cross to the North side of that state line, they are absolutely subject to boarding and subsequent sanctioning. And of course the main fish aggregator on the ABR is in NYS waters (IFYKYK), and all boats tend to hit it, regardless of their origin port of call.

Regional regs are the answer.

Best I could find quickly on-line showing the NYS line of demarcation. Any plotter charting will better illustrate this

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Again, IFYKYK:

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After we discussed and I tried the ling oreganata, this recipe has expanded to other seafood!
Yesterday’s fine weather pattern allowed us to make our second Montauk Fluke trip of the season with a 4-man charter consisting of David, Sean, Nick and Frank. The results did show a slow but steady improvement that has the pattern most of us have experienced the entire year.

Since we had reasonable success a bit further south of the point on last Friday’s trip that’s where we began our efforts. A few short Sea Bass followed by one keeper and a handful of short Fluke plus a few Whiting at least proved there was life on this drop. About 30 minutes in David gets a good thump and puts a healthy 20” Fluke in the box. Unfortunately, the action died shortly after this fish so I knew it was time to make a move.

Headed inshore a mile and a half and immediately found a decent drift line with a bit more movement to the current. Sean started us off with a nice 21” Fluke and we also saw Nick put another Keeper Sea Bass in the box. For the next 2.5 hours we had steady action on each pas eventually building the catch total to 7 quality keeper Fluke and 7 total keeper Sea Bass. David managed to earn his limit with his top fish going 4# but it was Frank who shined brightest with a nice wide Fluke just shy of 6# caught on one of the last drifts of the day. The other pattern of light bites was evident again today with most of the fish literally falling off the hook once netted and a couple of other sizeable Fluke that mysteriously dropped off the line half way to the surface. Nevertheless, it was a solid improvement over last week’s trip and cause for hope that we can keep building on our Fluke trips in the ocean.

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Yesterday’s fine weather pattern allowed us to make our second Montauk Fluke trip of the season with a 4-man charter consisting of David, Sean, Nick and Frank. The results did show a slow but steady improvement that has the pattern most of us have experienced the entire year.

Since we had reasonable success a bit further south of the point on last Friday’s trip that’s where we began our efforts. A few short Sea Bass followed by one keeper and a handful of short Fluke plus a few Whiting at least proved there was life on this drop. About 30 minutes in David gets a good thump and puts a healthy 20” Fluke in the box. Unfortunately, the action died shortly after this fish so I knew it was time to make a move.

Headed inshore a mile and a half and immediately found a decent drift line with a bit more movement to the current. Sean started us off with a nice 21” Fluke and we also saw Nick put another Keeper Sea Bass in the box. For the next 2.5 hours we had steady action on each pas eventually building the catch total to 7 quality keeper Fluke and 7 total keeper Sea Bass. David managed to earn his limit with his top fish going 4# but it was Frank who shined brightest with a nice wide Fluke just shy of 6# caught on one of the last drifts of the day. The other pattern of light bites was evident again today with most of the fish literally falling off the hook once netted and a couple of other sizeable Fluke that mysteriously dropped off the line half way to the surface. Nevertheless, it was a solid improvement over last week’s trip and cause for hope that we can keep building on our Fluke trips in the ocean.

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Very nice!! Things seem to slowly be improving
 
Sailed to my offshore office with Stephen E., the younger better looking(!) version of you-know-who (IYKYK), except w/o the ball-buster gene. Great kid, big ups to his Dad for steering him right. A pleasure to have on the boat. No bull.

Anyway, had action right away with shorties to 18", fished hard all day for at least 50 shorts, 2 x 20" keeps, and Stephen's gorgeous 6lb9oz mini-mat. That fish hit something I'm completely unfamiliar with, a 3.5" "drop-shot" metallized minnow lure, sweetened with a 4" piece of belly. He did well for a few hours with whatever that thing is. Hey, it got him the best of the season so far on my boat, so nothin' but kudos here!

The bite was one of the weirdest I've ever seen - tons of pick-up and drops, all through the trip. Get the hit, give 'em the old three-one thousand, set the hook, feel some substantial weight, and then nothin'. Super frustrating. Some really solid hits too. Hopefully they commit better as the water continues to warm.

Most annoying part of the trip - 2 X 3-engined 50kt go-fasts with Jersey reggies, keeping all those 18" we get to throw back. You'd thing with the major amount of tog bottom in their neighborhood they'd have no need to run the 20+ miles to Cholera to find rubble, but I guess it is what it is. Regional regs are the only rational answer. Pix attached.

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