SERIOUSLY, there still are ghost lobster traps in LI Sound???????????????

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Unbelievable!!! Also surprised that the NY Sound traps didn't have "escape" doors that rot away with time, as is stipulated in Maine...

Derelict lobster traps in Long Island Sound will be removed​

pressherald.com/2022/03/22/derelict-lobster-traps-in-long-island-sound-will-be-removed/

By SUSAN HAIGHMarch 22, 2022
Bobby Kent pushes a baited lobster pot into the waters of Long Island Sound off Groton, Conn., in 2016. It's been estimated that about one million lobster traps have been left behind in the Sound.


Two decades after Connecticut’s lobster industry collapsed, federal funding has been approved to begin removing some of the hundreds of thousands of derelict lobster traps left on the floor of Long Island Sound, a “ghost fishery” that continues to trap and kill marine life to this day.

The $569,000 included in the new federal budget bill will finance a coalition, led by The Maritime Aquarium of Norwalk, which will oversee retrieval of the traps. The goal is to eventually hire local charter fishing vessels and fishermen to collect an initial 3,000 traps over two years, ultimately getting rid of abandoned marine debris that has upset the Sound’s food chain and become a source of pollution in the waters.

“These are not traps that are still being actively retrieved by fishermen. And yet, what we have learned over years of research, is that they are still traps that are actively catching different marine life,” said Jason Patlis, the aquarium’s president and CEO. “There’s not much lobster to be had, but there are crustaceans that are finding their way into the traps. There’s finfish that find their way into the traps.”

The effort to remove the old lobster traps in Connecticut waters is similar to the one taken in the New York waters of Long Island Sound. Since 2011, the Cornell Cooperative Extension of Suffolk County has removed 19,000 abandoned traps – about 91 percent were still functioning. About a third of those were found to have live crabs, fish and lobsters, including pregnant females, often attracted by other animals that had died inside the trap, said Scott Curatolo-Wagemann, senior educator at the agency.

A similar effort to remove 9 percent of the “ghost” lobster traps from Chesapeake Bay led to an increase in fisheries by thousands of metric tons, said David Hudson, a researcher in residence at Norwalk aquarium. He predicted that removing the old traps will help the populations of various fish species including tautog, rock crabs, whelk, cunner and sea bass, as well as the remaining lobsters.

It’s been estimated that about 1 million lobster traps have been left behind in Long Island Sound, either lost accidentally over the years or abandoned after the area’s $12 million lobster industry crashed in 1999, fueled in part by a massive die-off of lobsters, Curatolo-Wagemann said.

The Cornell cooperative extension service has since worked with the commercial fishing industry to track down and pull up the old traps – an approach Connecticut now plans to follow as well.

“The guys who had stayed in it, most of the guys we’re working with are multi-generational fishermen. A lot of them in their 70s. And they were full-time lobstermen at one point,” Curatolo-Wagemann said. “They kind of knew over the years where different guys had fished their traps. So their knowledge has been invaluable to us being able to locate these things.”

In Connecticut, the aquarium in Norwalk will be working with Save the Sound, the Long Island Soundkeeper, Project Oceanology in Groton and the New York cooperative extension service to start up the new removal operation for Connecticut’s portion of the 1,320-square-mile estuary. Funds from the federal budget bill, secured by the state’s congressional delegation, will be used to operate vessels, to pay lobstermen to remove old traps and other expenses.

Bill Lucy, the Long Island Soundkeeper and a former commercial harvester, said he’s ready to coordinate the lobster trap removal trips, research activities and workshops with local lobstermen, as well as help return tagged derelict lobster traps back to their original owners. Those traps with no markings or that go unclaimed will be recycled.

“Save the Sound is looking forward to working with the fishing fleet to start clearing these lost traps and reducing this hazard to marine life,” he said in a statement.

Old lobster traps will be removed from every coastal community along the Connecticut shoreline. Sixty outings are planned over the next two years, likely beginning sometime this fall. Copps Island Oysters in Norwalk and Indian River Shellfish in the Madison and Clinton area have already agreed to retrieve the old lobster traps. Others in the industry will have the opportunity to apply.
 
Pay skin divers a bounty for every trap they bring up. Get all those traps out of the water and let the Sound, NY Bight area heal for the next 20 years.
 
Pay skin divers a bounty for every trap they bring up. Get all those traps out of the water and let the Sound, NY Bight area heal for the next 20 years.
So they jump in the water too look around in hopes of finding a pot? to get a bounty?
 
So they jump in the water too look around in hopes of finding a pot? to get a bounty.
Why not ? It's not for the money only, it's to help the ocean and they'd get diving experience. I like to see a post from Cornfield , seems like a know it all who's afraid to post anything.
 
Why not ? It's not for the money only, it's to help the ocean and they'd get diving experience. I like to see a post from Cornfield , seems like a know it all who's afraid to post anything.
So let me get this straight Vector you want Scuba divers to spend their own money to go go blindly out in to the sound (Which is not the ocean BTW) AND LOOK FOR ABANDONED LOBSTER POTS on their own dime in hopes of finding one for a Bounty?
 
Skin Divers go down to look for Lost Anchors. If they're diving a wreck, Rock Pile, whatever ,and see a bunch of abandoned pots , make it worthwhile for them to bring them up . 8-10 traps -$50 bounty each, it's good money.And our fishing would get a whole lot better !
 
Have you ever tried pulling up a ghost lobster trap? they are not light and your average diver would not be able to get them off the bottom
 
This is a topic near and dear to my heart. Almost every day/weekend in Fall we encounter ghost traps while fishing in the LIS. I've literally pulled up strings of them in years past. If possible we open them and remove the doors so nothing else can get stuck inside. If you look at the sheer number of licenses and traps issued in the late 90s your jaw would hit the floor. I actually wrote my college thesis on the die off (I was a biology major). It's still a major issue 20+ years later. I am glad they are doing something about it. Like a lot of other things looks good on paper, lets see it in action. Hopefully they let PBs be part of the cleanup efforts.
 
I'll pay to have them remove the unmarked blackfish and porgy pots on every rockpile of the western sound.
Unrelated topic. Although I agree with what you're saying there seems to be no solution to that problem yet. A handful of guys are running that show.
 
To have this happening in this day and age is a disgrace. I don't care how they get them out, but they do need to be removed. As they use their convoluted numbers to determine that NY needs two separate regs on tog there are literally tens of thousands of ghost pot killing machines lined on the bottom.

Add that to the millions of gallons of wastewater a day finding its way into the sound. On top of that let's not forget the approval of dredged materials being dumped into the sound for another 25-years!

How much can the sound take? We've seen the total devastation of the lobster industry, the killing of every Peconic Bay scallop. Then of course there's the disappearance of blowfish, flounder, mackerel, tommy cod, fluke, just to name a few.

Now we have live blackfish selling for $25 a pound for a live fish! That is one hearty fish as proven by their ability to sustain this onslaught of traps and pollution. But it's time to act before it's too late.

I'm guessing that there is a technology that would assure that no pots could be lost.

I was at the table when we wrote the last tog bill. It was just as the pot fishery was entering the fray. We did a lot of great things in that bill including the commercials dreaded 25 fish trip limit. But these traps need to be removed at whatever the cost.
 
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