Suffering from Chunkieitis there Gene, posting in the wrong thread???
Regardless, this is hysterical...
the "Headline That Caught My Attention or the WTF" thread
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Regardless, this is hysterical...
Looks like a planned trip to Europe in early October will be delayed until 2022. @pequa1 is probably in the same position...
pressherald.com/2021/02/06/air-travel-recovery-likely-pushed-back-to-2022/
Angus Whitley, Jason Gale, Tara Patel and Christopher Jasper February 6, 2021
As coronavirus vaccines started rolling out late last year, there was a palpable sense of excitement. People began browsing travel websites and airlines grew optimistic about flying again. Ryanair Holdings even launched a “Jab & Go” campaign alongside images of 20-somethings on holiday, drinks in hand.
It’s not working out that way.
For a start, it isn’t clear the vaccines actually stop travelers spreading the disease, even if they’re less likely to catch it themselves. Neither are the shots proven against the more-infectious mutant strains that have startled governments from Australia to the U.K. into closing, rather than opening, borders. An ambitious push by carriers for digital health passports to replace the mandatory quarantines killing travel demand is also fraught with challenges and has yet to win over the World Health Organization.
This bleak reality has pushed back expectations of any meaningful recovery in global travel to 2022. That may be too late to save the many airlines with only a few months of cash remaining. And the delay threatens to kill the careers of hundreds of thousands of pilots, flight crew and airport workers who’ve already been out of work for close to a year. Rather than a return to worldwide connectivity – one of the economic miracles of the jet era – prolonged international isolation appears unavoidable.
“It’s very important for people to understand that at the moment, all we know about the vaccines is that they will very effectively reduce your risk of severe disease,” said Margaret Harris, a WHO spokesperson in Geneva. “We haven’t seen any evidence yet indicating whether or not they stop transmission.”
To be sure, it’s possible a travel rebound will happen on its own – without the need for vaccine passports. Should jabs start to drive down infection and death rates, governments might gain enough confidence to roll back quarantines and other border curbs, and rely more on passengers’ pre-flight COVID-19 tests.
The United Arab Emirates, for example, has largely done away with entry restrictions, other than the need for a negative test. While U.K. regulators banned Ryanair’s “Jab & Go” ad as misleading, the discount airline’s chief Michael O’Leary still expects almost the entire population of Europe to be inoculated by the end of September. “That’s the point where we are released from these restrictions,” he said. “Short-haul travel will recover strongly and quickly.”
For now though, governments broadly remain skittish about welcoming international visitors and rules change at the slightest hint of trouble. Witness Australia, which slammed shut its borders with New Zealand last month after New Zealand reported one COVID-19 case in the community.
New Zealand and Australia, which have pursued a successful approach aimed at eliminating the virus, have both said their borders won’t fully open this year. Travel bubbles, meanwhile, such as one proposed between the Asian financial hubs of Singapore and Hong Kong, have yet to take hold. France on Sunday tightened rules on international travel while Canada is preparing to impose tougher quarantine measures.
“Air traffic and aviation is really way down the priority list for governments,” said Phil Seymour, president and head of advisory at U.K-based aviation services firm IBA Group Ltd. “It’s going to be a long haul out of this.”
The pace of vaccine rollouts is another sticking point.
While the rate of vaccinations has improved in the U.S. – the world’s largest air-travel market before the virus struck – inoculation programs have been far from aviation’s panacea. In some places, they’re just one more thing for people to squabble about. Vaccine nationalism in Europe has dissolved into a rows over supply and who should be protected first. The region is also fractured over whether a jab should be a ticket to unrestricted travel.
It all means a rebound in passenger air traffic “is probably a 2022 thing,” according to Joshua Ng, Singapore-based director at Alton Aviation Consultancy. Long-haul travel may not properly resume until 2023 or 2024, he predicts. The International Air Transport Association said this week that in a worst-case scenario, passenger traffic may only improve by 13 percent this year. Its official forecast for a 50 percent rebound was issued in December.
American Airlines on Wednesday warned 13,000 employees they could be laid off, many of them for the second time in six months.
At the end of 2020 “we fully believed that we would be looking at a summer schedule where we’d fly all of our airplanes and need the full strength of our team,” CEO Doug Parker and President Robert Isom told workers. “Regrettably, that is no longer the case.”
The lack of progress is clear in the skies. Commercial flights worldwide as of Feb. 1 wallowed at less than half pre-pandemic levels, according to OAG Aviation Worldwide. Scheduled services in major markets including the U.K., Brazil and Spain are still falling, the data show.
Quarantines that lock up passengers upon arrival for weeks on end remain the great enemy of a real travel rebound. A better alternative, according to IATA, is a digital Travel Pass to store passengers’ vaccine and testing histories, allowing restrictions to be lifted. Many of the world’s largest airlines have rolled out apps from IATA and others, including Singapore Airlines Ltd., Emirates and British Airways.
“We need to be working on as many options as possible,” said Richard Treeves, British Airways’ head of business resilience. “We’re hopeful for integration on those apps and common standards.”
But even IATA recognizes there’s no guarantee every state will adopt its Travel Pass right away, if at all. There’s currently no consensus on vaccine passports within the 27-member European Union, with tourism-dependent countries like Greece and Portugal backing the idea and bigger members including France pushing back.
“We’re going to have a lack of harmony at the beginning,” Nick Careen, IATA’s senior vice president for passenger matters, said at a briefing last month. “None of it is ideal.”
The airline group has called on the WHO to determine that it is safe for inoculated people to fly without quarantining, in a bid to bolster the case for Travel Pass. But the global health body remains unmoved.
“At this point, all we can do is say, yes, you were vaccinated on this date with this vaccine and you had your booster – if it’s a two-course vaccine – on this date,” the WHO’s Harris said. “We’re working very hard to get a secure electronic system so people have that information. But at this point, that’s all it is. It’s a record.”
A vaccine passport wouldn’t be able to demonstrate the quality or durability of any protective immunity gleaned from being inoculated, or from being infected with virus naturally, either, Harris said.
“The idea that your natural immunity should be protective and that you could somehow use this as a way of saying ‘I’m good to travel’ is out completely.”
Doubts around vaccines mean aviation’s top priority should be a standardized testing regime, said IBA’s Seymour. This might involve a coronavirus test 72 hours before departure, 24 hours of isolation on arrival, and then another test before being released.
“If this was the world standard, then I think we would all be prepared to start picking holidays and fly away,” he said.
Air travel recovery likely pushed back to 2022
Angus Whitley, Jason Gale, Tara Patel and Christopher Jasper February 6, 2021
As coronavirus vaccines started rolling out late last year, there was a palpable sense of excitement. People began browsing travel websites and airlines grew optimistic about flying again. Ryanair Holdings even launched a “Jab & Go” campaign alongside images of 20-somethings on holiday, drinks in hand.
It’s not working out that way.
For a start, it isn’t clear the vaccines actually stop travelers spreading the disease, even if they’re less likely to catch it themselves. Neither are the shots proven against the more-infectious mutant strains that have startled governments from Australia to the U.K. into closing, rather than opening, borders. An ambitious push by carriers for digital health passports to replace the mandatory quarantines killing travel demand is also fraught with challenges and has yet to win over the World Health Organization.
This bleak reality has pushed back expectations of any meaningful recovery in global travel to 2022. That may be too late to save the many airlines with only a few months of cash remaining. And the delay threatens to kill the careers of hundreds of thousands of pilots, flight crew and airport workers who’ve already been out of work for close to a year. Rather than a return to worldwide connectivity – one of the economic miracles of the jet era – prolonged international isolation appears unavoidable.
“It’s very important for people to understand that at the moment, all we know about the vaccines is that they will very effectively reduce your risk of severe disease,” said Margaret Harris, a WHO spokesperson in Geneva. “We haven’t seen any evidence yet indicating whether or not they stop transmission.”
To be sure, it’s possible a travel rebound will happen on its own – without the need for vaccine passports. Should jabs start to drive down infection and death rates, governments might gain enough confidence to roll back quarantines and other border curbs, and rely more on passengers’ pre-flight COVID-19 tests.
The United Arab Emirates, for example, has largely done away with entry restrictions, other than the need for a negative test. While U.K. regulators banned Ryanair’s “Jab & Go” ad as misleading, the discount airline’s chief Michael O’Leary still expects almost the entire population of Europe to be inoculated by the end of September. “That’s the point where we are released from these restrictions,” he said. “Short-haul travel will recover strongly and quickly.”
For now though, governments broadly remain skittish about welcoming international visitors and rules change at the slightest hint of trouble. Witness Australia, which slammed shut its borders with New Zealand last month after New Zealand reported one COVID-19 case in the community.
New Zealand and Australia, which have pursued a successful approach aimed at eliminating the virus, have both said their borders won’t fully open this year. Travel bubbles, meanwhile, such as one proposed between the Asian financial hubs of Singapore and Hong Kong, have yet to take hold. France on Sunday tightened rules on international travel while Canada is preparing to impose tougher quarantine measures.
“Air traffic and aviation is really way down the priority list for governments,” said Phil Seymour, president and head of advisory at U.K-based aviation services firm IBA Group Ltd. “It’s going to be a long haul out of this.”
The pace of vaccine rollouts is another sticking point.
While the rate of vaccinations has improved in the U.S. – the world’s largest air-travel market before the virus struck – inoculation programs have been far from aviation’s panacea. In some places, they’re just one more thing for people to squabble about. Vaccine nationalism in Europe has dissolved into a rows over supply and who should be protected first. The region is also fractured over whether a jab should be a ticket to unrestricted travel.
It all means a rebound in passenger air traffic “is probably a 2022 thing,” according to Joshua Ng, Singapore-based director at Alton Aviation Consultancy. Long-haul travel may not properly resume until 2023 or 2024, he predicts. The International Air Transport Association said this week that in a worst-case scenario, passenger traffic may only improve by 13 percent this year. Its official forecast for a 50 percent rebound was issued in December.
American Airlines on Wednesday warned 13,000 employees they could be laid off, many of them for the second time in six months.
At the end of 2020 “we fully believed that we would be looking at a summer schedule where we’d fly all of our airplanes and need the full strength of our team,” CEO Doug Parker and President Robert Isom told workers. “Regrettably, that is no longer the case.”
The lack of progress is clear in the skies. Commercial flights worldwide as of Feb. 1 wallowed at less than half pre-pandemic levels, according to OAG Aviation Worldwide. Scheduled services in major markets including the U.K., Brazil and Spain are still falling, the data show.
Quarantines that lock up passengers upon arrival for weeks on end remain the great enemy of a real travel rebound. A better alternative, according to IATA, is a digital Travel Pass to store passengers’ vaccine and testing histories, allowing restrictions to be lifted. Many of the world’s largest airlines have rolled out apps from IATA and others, including Singapore Airlines Ltd., Emirates and British Airways.
“We need to be working on as many options as possible,” said Richard Treeves, British Airways’ head of business resilience. “We’re hopeful for integration on those apps and common standards.”
But even IATA recognizes there’s no guarantee every state will adopt its Travel Pass right away, if at all. There’s currently no consensus on vaccine passports within the 27-member European Union, with tourism-dependent countries like Greece and Portugal backing the idea and bigger members including France pushing back.
“We’re going to have a lack of harmony at the beginning,” Nick Careen, IATA’s senior vice president for passenger matters, said at a briefing last month. “None of it is ideal.”
The airline group has called on the WHO to determine that it is safe for inoculated people to fly without quarantining, in a bid to bolster the case for Travel Pass. But the global health body remains unmoved.
“At this point, all we can do is say, yes, you were vaccinated on this date with this vaccine and you had your booster – if it’s a two-course vaccine – on this date,” the WHO’s Harris said. “We’re working very hard to get a secure electronic system so people have that information. But at this point, that’s all it is. It’s a record.”
A vaccine passport wouldn’t be able to demonstrate the quality or durability of any protective immunity gleaned from being inoculated, or from being infected with virus naturally, either, Harris said.
“The idea that your natural immunity should be protective and that you could somehow use this as a way of saying ‘I’m good to travel’ is out completely.”
Doubts around vaccines mean aviation’s top priority should be a standardized testing regime, said IBA’s Seymour. This might involve a coronavirus test 72 hours before departure, 24 hours of isolation on arrival, and then another test before being released.
“If this was the world standard, then I think we would all be prepared to start picking holidays and fly away,” he said.
And now for something completely different...
Wenqing Li pleaded guilty to tying stockings filled with cacti and succulents to her body. A detection dog singled her out at the Auckland airport. Credit...New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries
A woman who tied nearly 1,000 cacti and succulent plants to her body in an attempt to smuggle them into New Zealand in 2019 has been sentenced to 100 hours of community service and 12 months of intensive supervision for violating the country’s biosecurity laws, government officials said.
The woman, Wenqing Li, 38, was twice caught with plants and seeds at Auckland International Airport when returning from China to her home in Auckland, New Zealand’s Ministry for Primary Industries said in a statement. The Ministry said Ms. Li intended to sell the plants on Trade Me, an online classified advertising site similar to Craigslist.
In the first incident, on March 24, 2019, Ms. Li tied stockings containing 947 succulents and cacti to her body and attempted to sneak them into the country, the ministry said.
An airport official approached Ms. Li with a detection dog, which took notice of her, and she rushed to a bathroom to try to dispose of the plants, said Gary Orr, the director of compliance services for the ministry. Among the agency’s duties is enforcing biosecurity regulations intended to keep diseases and harmful organisms from contaminating native plants and animals.
“What she did was she put them in the rubbish bins in the men’s toilet thinking we wouldn’t look there because she was a woman,” Mr. Orr said. “But our staff are alert to that type of ruse.”
Officers at the airport searched the bathrooms and found “a large amount of plant material,” including “three stockings filled with succulents and cacti,” the statement said. The plants included eight endangered and threatened species and were worth more than $7,000.
The officers seized the goods and released Ms. Li, but Mr. Orr’s department opened an investigation.
Four months later, Ms. Li was again caught trying to smuggle unauthorized goods into the country, Mr. Orr said.
On July 23, 2019, 142 seeds hidden in commercially packaged iPad covers and more than 200 plant pots were found in Ms. Li’s luggage, the ministry said. A snail and pieces of tree fern stem were contained in the plant pots. Mr. Orr said the plant pots were “wrapped in moldy paper.”
“They were dirty,” he said, “so they could’ve been bringing in all sorts of diseases.”
He added that it’s particularly “aggravating” that some of the plant species were endangered, because all unauthorized live species confiscated at the airport must be destroyed or euthanized.
“It is an absolute shame, especially when these things are being categorized as endangered — you don’t want to do anything to exacerbate that,” Mr. Orr said. However, he said, destroying the plants is “essential to protecting New Zealand.”
Succulent leaves seized at the Auckland airport. The confiscated plants, some of which were categorized as endangered, were destroyed to protect New Zealand’s native species from disease. Credit...New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries
New Zealand relies on its trading industry, Mr. Orr said, so “it’s very important to us that our foreign markets understand that products that we are sending offshore are free from pests and diseases.”
He added that New Zealand has its own unique animals and plants that would be “significantly impacted” by the introduction of new species or diseases.
Ms. Li pleaded guilty in November to charges including knowingly attempting to possess unauthorized goods and trading in an endangered species. She was sentenced on Tuesday by Judge Richard McIlraith in the Manukau District Court in Auckland.
Simon Anderson, a regional team manager in the ministry’s compliance investigations department, said in a statement on Wednesday that the sentencing “serves as a good reminder that anyone who smuggles plants or other endangered species into New Zealand can expect to be prosecuted.”
New Zealand Sentences Woman Caught With Cacti Tied to Her Body
The woman, Wenqing Li, pleaded guilty to violating biosecurity laws in two attempts to smuggle nearly 1,000 cacti and succulents into the country.
Wenqing Li pleaded guilty to tying stockings filled with cacti and succulents to her body. A detection dog singled her out at the Auckland airport. Credit...New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries
A woman who tied nearly 1,000 cacti and succulent plants to her body in an attempt to smuggle them into New Zealand in 2019 has been sentenced to 100 hours of community service and 12 months of intensive supervision for violating the country’s biosecurity laws, government officials said.
The woman, Wenqing Li, 38, was twice caught with plants and seeds at Auckland International Airport when returning from China to her home in Auckland, New Zealand’s Ministry for Primary Industries said in a statement. The Ministry said Ms. Li intended to sell the plants on Trade Me, an online classified advertising site similar to Craigslist.
In the first incident, on March 24, 2019, Ms. Li tied stockings containing 947 succulents and cacti to her body and attempted to sneak them into the country, the ministry said.
An airport official approached Ms. Li with a detection dog, which took notice of her, and she rushed to a bathroom to try to dispose of the plants, said Gary Orr, the director of compliance services for the ministry. Among the agency’s duties is enforcing biosecurity regulations intended to keep diseases and harmful organisms from contaminating native plants and animals.
“What she did was she put them in the rubbish bins in the men’s toilet thinking we wouldn’t look there because she was a woman,” Mr. Orr said. “But our staff are alert to that type of ruse.”
Officers at the airport searched the bathrooms and found “a large amount of plant material,” including “three stockings filled with succulents and cacti,” the statement said. The plants included eight endangered and threatened species and were worth more than $7,000.
The officers seized the goods and released Ms. Li, but Mr. Orr’s department opened an investigation.
Four months later, Ms. Li was again caught trying to smuggle unauthorized goods into the country, Mr. Orr said.
On July 23, 2019, 142 seeds hidden in commercially packaged iPad covers and more than 200 plant pots were found in Ms. Li’s luggage, the ministry said. A snail and pieces of tree fern stem were contained in the plant pots. Mr. Orr said the plant pots were “wrapped in moldy paper.”
“They were dirty,” he said, “so they could’ve been bringing in all sorts of diseases.”
He added that it’s particularly “aggravating” that some of the plant species were endangered, because all unauthorized live species confiscated at the airport must be destroyed or euthanized.
“It is an absolute shame, especially when these things are being categorized as endangered — you don’t want to do anything to exacerbate that,” Mr. Orr said. However, he said, destroying the plants is “essential to protecting New Zealand.”
Succulent leaves seized at the Auckland airport. The confiscated plants, some of which were categorized as endangered, were destroyed to protect New Zealand’s native species from disease. Credit...New Zealand Ministry for Primary Industries
New Zealand relies on its trading industry, Mr. Orr said, so “it’s very important to us that our foreign markets understand that products that we are sending offshore are free from pests and diseases.”
He added that New Zealand has its own unique animals and plants that would be “significantly impacted” by the introduction of new species or diseases.
Ms. Li pleaded guilty in November to charges including knowingly attempting to possess unauthorized goods and trading in an endangered species. She was sentenced on Tuesday by Judge Richard McIlraith in the Manukau District Court in Auckland.
Simon Anderson, a regional team manager in the ministry’s compliance investigations department, said in a statement on Wednesday that the sentencing “serves as a good reminder that anyone who smuggles plants or other endangered species into New Zealand can expect to be prosecuted.”
None of us wanted to even try to enjoy Rome to Barcelona if we had to wear masks. I wonder if we will have to pay for travel insurance all over again since this appears to be totally not under our control ( ? )Looks like a planned trip to Europe in early October will be delayed until 2022. @pequa1 is probably in the same position...
Air travel recovery likely pushed back to 2022
Angus Whitley, Jason Gale, Tara Patel and Christopher Jasper February 6, 2021
As coronavirus vaccines started rolling out late last year, there was a palpable sense of excitement. People began browsing travel websites and airlines grew optimistic about flying again. Ryanair Holdings even launched a “Jab & Go” campaign alongside images of 20-somethings on holiday, drinks in hand.
It’s not working out that way.
For a start, it isn’t clear the vaccines actually stop travelers spreading the disease, even if they’re less likely to catch it themselves. Neither are the shots proven against the more-infectious mutant strains that have startled governments from Australia to the U.K. into closing, rather than opening, borders. An ambitious push by carriers for digital health passports to replace the mandatory quarantines killing travel demand is also fraught with challenges and has yet to win over the World Health Organization.
This bleak reality has pushed back expectations of any meaningful recovery in global travel to 2022. That may be too late to save the many airlines with only a few months of cash remaining. And the delay threatens to kill the careers of hundreds of thousands of pilots, flight crew and airport workers who’ve already been out of work for close to a year. Rather than a return to worldwide connectivity – one of the economic miracles of the jet era – prolonged international isolation appears unavoidable.
“It’s very important for people to understand that at the moment, all we know about the vaccines is that they will very effectively reduce your risk of severe disease,” said Margaret Harris, a WHO spokesperson in Geneva. “We haven’t seen any evidence yet indicating whether or not they stop transmission.”
To be sure, it’s possible a travel rebound will happen on its own – without the need for vaccine passports. Should jabs start to drive down infection and death rates, governments might gain enough confidence to roll back quarantines and other border curbs, and rely more on passengers’ pre-flight COVID-19 tests.
The United Arab Emirates, for example, has largely done away with entry restrictions, other than the need for a negative test. While U.K. regulators banned Ryanair’s “Jab & Go” ad as misleading, the discount airline’s chief Michael O’Leary still expects almost the entire population of Europe to be inoculated by the end of September. “That’s the point where we are released from these restrictions,” he said. “Short-haul travel will recover strongly and quickly.”
For now though, governments broadly remain skittish about welcoming international visitors and rules change at the slightest hint of trouble. Witness Australia, which slammed shut its borders with New Zealand last month after New Zealand reported one COVID-19 case in the community.
New Zealand and Australia, which have pursued a successful approach aimed at eliminating the virus, have both said their borders won’t fully open this year. Travel bubbles, meanwhile, such as one proposed between the Asian financial hubs of Singapore and Hong Kong, have yet to take hold. France on Sunday tightened rules on international travel while Canada is preparing to impose tougher quarantine measures.
“Air traffic and aviation is really way down the priority list for governments,” said Phil Seymour, president and head of advisory at U.K-based aviation services firm IBA Group Ltd. “It’s going to be a long haul out of this.”
The pace of vaccine rollouts is another sticking point.
While the rate of vaccinations has improved in the U.S. – the world’s largest air-travel market before the virus struck – inoculation programs have been far from aviation’s panacea. In some places, they’re just one more thing for people to squabble about. Vaccine nationalism in Europe has dissolved into a rows over supply and who should be protected first. The region is also fractured over whether a jab should be a ticket to unrestricted travel.
It all means a rebound in passenger air traffic “is probably a 2022 thing,” according to Joshua Ng, Singapore-based director at Alton Aviation Consultancy. Long-haul travel may not properly resume until 2023 or 2024, he predicts. The International Air Transport Association said this week that in a worst-case scenario, passenger traffic may only improve by 13 percent this year. Its official forecast for a 50 percent rebound was issued in December.
American Airlines on Wednesday warned 13,000 employees they could be laid off, many of them for the second time in six months.
At the end of 2020 “we fully believed that we would be looking at a summer schedule where we’d fly all of our airplanes and need the full strength of our team,” CEO Doug Parker and President Robert Isom told workers. “Regrettably, that is no longer the case.”
The lack of progress is clear in the skies. Commercial flights worldwide as of Feb. 1 wallowed at less than half pre-pandemic levels, according to OAG Aviation Worldwide. Scheduled services in major markets including the U.K., Brazil and Spain are still falling, the data show.
Quarantines that lock up passengers upon arrival for weeks on end remain the great enemy of a real travel rebound. A better alternative, according to IATA, is a digital Travel Pass to store passengers’ vaccine and testing histories, allowing restrictions to be lifted. Many of the world’s largest airlines have rolled out apps from IATA and others, including Singapore Airlines Ltd., Emirates and British Airways.
“We need to be working on as many options as possible,” said Richard Treeves, British Airways’ head of business resilience. “We’re hopeful for integration on those apps and common standards.”
But even IATA recognizes there’s no guarantee every state will adopt its Travel Pass right away, if at all. There’s currently no consensus on vaccine passports within the 27-member European Union, with tourism-dependent countries like Greece and Portugal backing the idea and bigger members including France pushing back.
“We’re going to have a lack of harmony at the beginning,” Nick Careen, IATA’s senior vice president for passenger matters, said at a briefing last month. “None of it is ideal.”
The airline group has called on the WHO to determine that it is safe for inoculated people to fly without quarantining, in a bid to bolster the case for Travel Pass. But the global health body remains unmoved.
“At this point, all we can do is say, yes, you were vaccinated on this date with this vaccine and you had your booster – if it’s a two-course vaccine – on this date,” the WHO’s Harris said. “We’re working very hard to get a secure electronic system so people have that information. But at this point, that’s all it is. It’s a record.”
A vaccine passport wouldn’t be able to demonstrate the quality or durability of any protective immunity gleaned from being inoculated, or from being infected with virus naturally, either, Harris said.
“The idea that your natural immunity should be protective and that you could somehow use this as a way of saying ‘I’m good to travel’ is out completely.”
Doubts around vaccines mean aviation’s top priority should be a standardized testing regime, said IBA’s Seymour. This might involve a coronavirus test 72 hours before departure, 24 hours of isolation on arrival, and then another test before being released.
“If this was the world standard, then I think we would all be prepared to start picking holidays and fly away,” he said.
movetheboat
Well-Known Angler
whoops!!!! Is there a cure ??
Not really. One just gets more and more demented !
I believe our Learned Colleague Dr. @pequa1 has nailed the prognosis right on the head!!!
Alas poor Gene, I knew him...
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That is a great question. Fortunately for use we used both of the travel companies' aligned travel insurance companies for both of our planned 2020 vacations. They have port over the travel insurance policies to the new bookings with no financial loss to us, or to them for that matter, and when we rebooked for this year, and early 2022, they assured us the same would happen if COVID forced our hands again.
For the first time we used Viking's own insurance, used some affiliate previously when we went on the Seine and on the Rhine. Also, did you mean "ALAS" poor Gene, we hardly knew ye." ( ? ) I turned off spell check on phone and PC, as I hated the two machines "thinking" they knew what I wanted to type all the time.
Fat fingers and autocorrect. Guess Siri isn't fluent in Shakespeare...
More importantly, Viking will do you right, they've done it for us.
Hope so. Losing the insurance premium (about $1K IIRC) isn't a total horror, but losing out on the balconies with the three couples all in a row would be when we reschedule. But when does one reschedule ? Spring 2022 or all the way to Fall 2022, and does Viking itself have confidence they will sail on whatever schedule they come up with ? Still in all, this whole mess has not affected my income, my assets, my family, just socialization. 2nd shot in 19 days, SWMBO just got hers last week.
In Florida, a near-miss with a cybersecurity worst-case scenario
A hacker broke into a Florida water treatment plant and ordered it to increase the amount of lye to extremely dangerous levels, officials said.
www.nbcnews.com
Friend of mine whose daughter lives in Chicago told me that she's had 4 stolen over the past 2 years and her insurance company dumped her, but reconsidered when she put in a $400 protective cage!!
Guess there is a practical reason for low clearance vehicles in places where the roads are flat and you don't have snow or mud season...
Thieves Nationwide Are Slithering Under Cars, Swiping Catalytic Converters
Guess there is a practical reason for low clearance vehicles in places where the roads are flat and you don't have snow or mud season...
Thieves Nationwide Are Slithering Under Cars, Swiping Catalytic Converters
The pollution-control gadgets are full of precious metals like palladium, and prices are soaring as regulators try to tame emissions. Crooks with hacksaws have noticed.Thieves Nationwide Are Slithering Under Cars, Swiping Catalytic Converters
uh oh. I still change my own oil and can get under the Crosstrek and the Ranger.
wader
Well-Known Angler
Scientists Are Pretty Sure They Found a Portal to the Fifth Dimension
It's probably in this weird particle.
wader
Well-Known Angler
The Newest Diplomatic Currency: COVID-19 Vaccines
NEW DELHI — India, the unmatched vaccine manufacturing power, is giving away millions of doses to neighbors friendly and estranged. It is trying to counter China, which has made doling out shots a central plank of its foreign relations. And the United Arab Emirates, drawing on its oil riches, is...
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