The most important fish in the sea
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Capt13
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MakoMike
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Can't stand Sea Shepard! They are the most dangerous people on the sea.
crabby
Well-Known Angler
How is that?
MakoMike
Angler
They are the ones that try to entangle the running and fishing gear on the Whalers and fishermen that they don't like. Paul Watson, the founder was a wanted man for his life endangering stunts.
Mike, if you watch the video this is not from Watson's "Sea Shepherd Conservation Society", but the words "Sea Shepherds" are part of the Hawk Road Studios' video entitled "Sea Shepherds: A Night Hunting Giant Tuna". There were 2 giveaways on this besides the punctuation. 1st it shows tuna hunting in a good light, and we all know that Watson's band of Pirates wouldn't be showing that, and it also shows some dead scoters, something that the Sea Shepherd gang wouldn't do either.
Old Mud
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Yes Roccus is right. That vid. has Nothing to do with the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society (SSCS) is an international non-profit, marine wildlife conservation organization… Established in 1977. This is just about the Joy and excitement of fishing Bluefin on a commercial scale with hook and line.
Old Mud
Well-Known Angler
Yep but they don't need much, unlike a common hull, dorys pick up a lot of floation every inch they go down. They will float with a load of fish. (Swamped) Although hard a hell to row.
(I know you know that.) 
captneilf
New Angler
Hi,
Hope you are well. Thank you for posting the video of The White Fleet- Portuguese Fisherman. I enjoyed watching it.
My grandfather John de Freitas was born in 1868, Funchal, Madeira in the Azores. I know of him as a 5 year old so I don't know much about him. I was told that at the age of 16 he stowed away on a fishing boat going to the Grand Banks. After a couple days he either gave himself up or was found on board. Eventually he landed in Halifax and took to the land. The only story I remember is that when they hit a bad storm
on the way to the Grounds they made him stand in the bow gave him rosary beads and told him to pray for calm seas.
Neil
Old Mud
Well-Known Angler
Hi Cap. Good story indeed. "Gave him rosary beads and told him to pray for calm seas." Yep that's Portuguese ok. Hey, maybe we are related Both my Gramps and Nana were also born in the Azores. Gramp was born on Faial and not sure where my Nana was born. He was born John Joseph Arruda. He also was a fisherman, Son /Grandson,Great Great Grandson of a Whaler. They came to New Bedford around 1907. He told me so many great stories
that when i was young that's all i could dream about. I'm sure in my former life i was a Whaler.
Hey, maybe we are related Both my Gramps and Nana were also born in the Azores. Gramp was born on Faial and not sure where my Nana was born. He was born John Joseph Arruda. He also was a fisherman, Son /Grandson,Great Great Grandson of a Whaler. They came to New Bedford around 1907. He told me so many great storiesthat when i was young that's all i could dream about. I'm sure in my former life i was a Whaler.
I think this is the time to post this.
Thanks Mud ........
Old Mud
Well-Known Angler
Yer welcome, i happen to think that song fits the Schooner/Dory days just fine.
Bassknuckles
Angler
This was in the paper yesterday
Organizations Object to Certification of ‘Most Important Fish in the Sea’
Organizations Object to Certification of ‘Most Important Fish in the Sea’
January 27, 2019 at 1:49 PM
Menhaden are often called “the most important fish in the sea” for their critical role in the marine ecosystem as forage food for dozens of predators, including bald eagles and humpback whales.Credits: Paul Eidman
Credibility of the Marine Stewardship Council at Stake with Atlantic Menhaden Reduction Fishery
"East Coast conservation groups and recreational fishing organizations recently objected to a recommendation by the consulting firm SAI Global to certify the industrial fishery for Atlantic menhaden as sustainable.
The recommendation came as part of Marine Stewardship Council (MSC) certification scheme which considers whether or not Omega Protein Inc. — a purse seining operation that “reduces” billions of fish meal and oil for use in pet food and aquaculture feed — fishes sustainably.
Menhaden are often called “the most important fish in the sea” for the critical role they play in the marine ecosystem as forage food for dozens of predators, including bald eagles, ospreys, humpback whales, bluefin tuna, tarpon and striped bass.
“It would be a travesty if the Marine Stewardship Council agrees to certify this fishery,” said Paul Eidman of Menhaden Defenders. “Until menhaden are managed to account for the needs of predators, the MSC should hold off.”
“Omega Protein has literally been taking food right out of the mouths of the whales and dolphins feeding in the waters off of New York and New Jersey,” added Paul Sieswerda of Gotham Whale. “How can that possibly be considered sustainable?”
Cooke Inc., the Canadian company that recently acquired Omega Protein, now owns the only remaining reduction fishery on the East Coast. Each year, the Virginia-based subsidiary catches hundreds of millions of these “forage” fish and grinds them up for sale on a global commodities market.
Recent scientific studies have quantified the adverse impacts of the menhaden reduction fishery on other species, including a recent one from the University of Maryland which found that the reductionfishery reduced the striped bass biomass by 28 percent.
“As a striped bass fisherman, I find it repulsive that the reduction industry is allowed to deplete the striped bass fishery by almost 30 percent,” said John Bello of the Virginia Saltwater Sportfishing Association. “Instead of certifying the fishery as sustainable, elected officials should ban this antiquated practice altogether. Virginia should join every other East Coast state in the 21st century.”
The Marine Stewardship Council certification scheme is funded largely by the industrial fishing applicants who also choose which consultants will do the review.
“This is a pay-to-play system through and through,” said Eidman. “Otherwise, why would the industry be certified before meeting the MSC standard for forage fish management.”
“Certifying this fishery would be premature,” said George Jackman of Riverkeeper. “It’s like awarding a diploma to a student who hasn’t even enrolled in school.”
“Omega Protein has fought every conservation provision ever imposed on the fishery,” said Bello. “Why would anyone think that will change now?”
Many organizations recently submitted public comments prior to the January 14 deadline calling for the MSC to reject the Atlantic menhaden reduction fishery certification. The decision will be announced as soon as mid-February."
Organizations Object to Certification of ‘Most Important Fish in the Sea’
Organizations Object to Certification of ‘Most Important Fish in the Sea’
January 27, 2019 at 1:49 PM
Menhaden are often called “the most important fish in the sea” for their critical role in the marine ecosystem as forage food for dozens of predators, including bald eagles and humpback whales.Credits: Paul Eidman
Credibility of the Marine Stewardship Council at Stake with Atlantic Menhaden Reduction Fishery
"East Coast conservation groups and recreational fishing organizations recently objected to a recommendation by the consulting firm SAI Global to certify the industrial fishery for Atlantic menhaden as sustainable.
The recommendation came as part of Marine Stewardship Council (MSC) certification scheme which considers whether or not Omega Protein Inc. — a purse seining operation that “reduces” billions of fish meal and oil for use in pet food and aquaculture feed — fishes sustainably.
Menhaden are often called “the most important fish in the sea” for the critical role they play in the marine ecosystem as forage food for dozens of predators, including bald eagles, ospreys, humpback whales, bluefin tuna, tarpon and striped bass.
“It would be a travesty if the Marine Stewardship Council agrees to certify this fishery,” said Paul Eidman of Menhaden Defenders. “Until menhaden are managed to account for the needs of predators, the MSC should hold off.”
“Omega Protein has literally been taking food right out of the mouths of the whales and dolphins feeding in the waters off of New York and New Jersey,” added Paul Sieswerda of Gotham Whale. “How can that possibly be considered sustainable?”
Cooke Inc., the Canadian company that recently acquired Omega Protein, now owns the only remaining reduction fishery on the East Coast. Each year, the Virginia-based subsidiary catches hundreds of millions of these “forage” fish and grinds them up for sale on a global commodities market.
Recent scientific studies have quantified the adverse impacts of the menhaden reduction fishery on other species, including a recent one from the University of Maryland which found that the reductionfishery reduced the striped bass biomass by 28 percent.
“As a striped bass fisherman, I find it repulsive that the reduction industry is allowed to deplete the striped bass fishery by almost 30 percent,” said John Bello of the Virginia Saltwater Sportfishing Association. “Instead of certifying the fishery as sustainable, elected officials should ban this antiquated practice altogether. Virginia should join every other East Coast state in the 21st century.”
The Marine Stewardship Council certification scheme is funded largely by the industrial fishing applicants who also choose which consultants will do the review.
“This is a pay-to-play system through and through,” said Eidman. “Otherwise, why would the industry be certified before meeting the MSC standard for forage fish management.”
“Certifying this fishery would be premature,” said George Jackman of Riverkeeper. “It’s like awarding a diploma to a student who hasn’t even enrolled in school.”
“Omega Protein has fought every conservation provision ever imposed on the fishery,” said Bello. “Why would anyone think that will change now?”
Many organizations recently submitted public comments prior to the January 14 deadline calling for the MSC to reject the Atlantic menhaden reduction fishery certification. The decision will be announced as soon as mid-February."
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