Whats going on in the World
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Avenger
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Absolutely this! Russia is paranoid and it goes back further than WWII. NATO should have been dissolved the moment the USSR collapsed. But there was too much political interest, and more importantly, money, involved for that to happen.
Two Views: Learn the history before we do something dumb in Ukraine
Russia claims a fear of military encirclement. We do not understand this because of our geography — oceans on two sides and two friendly neighbors.www.yahoo.com
Another history lesson unlearned.
longcast
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US Athletes Are Being Urged To Bring Burner Phones To Beijing For The Olympics, So Let The Shenanigans Commence
Sandra Montanez. Getty Images.Cnet - US athletes heading to the Winter Olympics next month in Beijing have reportedly been told to leave their personal phones behind amid security concerns. Team USA ...
We think this is OK??
wader
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Moscow claims everything is normal after report says Russia has been quietly emptying out its diplomatic outposts in Ukraine
A new report says Russia has evacuated nearly 50 people in recent weeks, but Moscow says its outposts are operating normally.
- Russia has been slowly emptying out its embassy in Kyiv, The New York Times reported this week.
- Russia has reportedly pulled nearly 50 people out and may be preparing for more departures.
- Moscow denied the new report, arguing that its diplomatic outposts are operating normally.
The New York Times reported this week a group of 18 people, largely family members of Russian diplomats, left Ukraine for Moscow on January 5. Over the next few days, around 30 more people from Kyiv and the consulate in Lviv reportedly departed.
And diplomats at two other outposts in Ukraine have been instructed to prepare to leave, The Times reported, citing a senior Ukrainian security official.
US and Ukrainian officials reportedly said that the Russian move could be interpreted as preparation for conflict, a feint, or some sort of propaganda move, if not some mixture of the three. In an outbreak of war, embassy staff could become prisoners of war or targets for information via interrogation.
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nothing to see here.........
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longcast
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Weakness has been shown........................................Moscow claims everything is normal after report says Russia has been quietly emptying out its diplomatic outposts in Ukraine
A new report says Russia has evacuated nearly 50 people in recent weeks, but Moscow says its outposts are operating normally.
A new report says Russia has been quietly reducing staff at its embassy in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv amid fears of an impending conflict, but Moscow denies it, arguing that the diplomatic outpost is operating normally.
- Russia has been slowly emptying out its embassy in Kyiv, The New York Times reported this week.
- Russia has reportedly pulled nearly 50 people out and may be preparing for more departures.
- Moscow denied the new report, arguing that its diplomatic outposts are operating normally.
The New York Times reported this week a group of 18 people, largely family members of Russian diplomats, left Ukraine for Moscow on January 5. Over the next few days, around 30 more people from Kyiv and the consulate in Lviv reportedly departed.
And diplomats at two other outposts in Ukraine have been instructed to prepare to leave, The Times reported, citing a senior Ukrainian security official.
US and Ukrainian officials reportedly said that the Russian move could be interpreted as preparation for conflict, a feint, or some sort of propaganda move, if not some mixture of the three. In an outbreak of war, embassy staff could become prisoners of war or targets for information via interrogation.
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nothing to see here.........
wader
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more moves on the chessboard?
Ukrainian officials have warned that Russia could launch an attack on Ukraine from various directions, including from its ally Belarus.
Ukrainian officials have warned that Russia could launch an attack on Ukraine from various directions, including from its ally Belarus.
wader
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The false premise making war with Russia more likely
Damon Linker, Senior correspondent
Wed, January 19, 2022, 2:52 AM
Crafting a wise foreign policy requires weighing one's own national interests against those of rivals and adversaries around the world. The comparison with other countries is important because it's only through an informed understanding how they view the world — and our own behavior within it — that we can accurately anticipate how they'll respond to our actions.
If foreign policy writer Peter Beinart is right, the United States struggles mightily with placing ourselves in the shoes of our rivals and adversaries around the world. In a recent Substack post, Beinart calls this one of our "delusions of innocence" — the predisposition of Americans to think well of ourselves and to dismiss the stated concerns of others as rooted in dishonesty or bad faith.
That predilection certainly plays a role in how many pundits and analysts are thinking about the current standoff between NATO and Russia over eastern Ukraine. The argument goes like this: Russian President Vladimir Putin claims NATO poses a threat and demands the alliance halt all plans to expand to Ukraine, Georgia, and other countries in Russia's near abroad. But NATO is merely a defensive alliance that poses no genuine threat to Russia. Therefore, Putin's demands are nothing but an excuse for him to revive the "evil empire" of the Soviet Union, and NATO must to stand firm against making any concessions.
The questionable premise — the one rooted in our "delusions of innocence" — is the second one, that NATO poses no threat. As Beinart notes in his post as well as in a recent New York Times column, it's instructive to imagine the American response if Mexico attempted to join a military alliance backed by a rival power. We would of course be apoplectic and quite ready to use military force to stop it — yes, even if newspaper columnists writing in the rival power's capital city penned tightly reasoned opinion pieces about how the alliance on America's southern border posed no threat at all to the United States.
The point isn't to imply moral equivalence between the U.S., Russia, and an imagined geopolitical rival allied with Mexico. It's rather to suggest that moral stature has much less to do with formulating foreign policy than American opinion makers tend to assume. NATO has repeatedly expanded eastward since the end of the Cold War, right into Russia's backyard, and the alliance has demonstrated numerous times (in the Balkans in the late 1990s, in Afghanistan beginning in 2001, and in Libya in 2011) that it's quite capable of projecting military power offensively, far beyond its constituents' borders. That's more than enough to justify Russian obstinance and bellicosity.
This doesn't mean the West should capitulate to all of Russia's demands. But we should recognize those demands aren't entirely rooted in bad faith. That awareness just might make it a little more possible to resolve the current standoff without bloodshed or an even larger Russian occupation of Ukraine.
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Hold onto your wallets NY'ers!
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wader
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Run NY'ers Run!!!
Avenger
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Because electricity isn't already expensive enough on Long Island. Jeezus.
Actually, everything is expensive enough. But let's be sure to be as regressive as possible on things that those least able to afford them will have to eat because of the noble goals of our leftist leaders.
Avenger
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Ban on wood "furnaces" is already being floated.
longcast
Well-Known Angler
We can only hope!!
BTW, HOW is the steam that ConEd provides throughout NYC generated? I sure know it's NOT like in Iceland where it's geothermal. Will there be taxes on that???
Don't feel bad, we have our share of idiots too...
Check this one out. You think Legislators could find better things to spend their time on. I'd feel better if the term "Legislator" was on the list. My I propose "Person Who Has Their Head Up Their ASS!!"
pressherald.com/2022/01/18/changes-eyed-to-strip-prisoners-and-inmates-from-maines-statute-books/
By Steve Collins January 18, 2022
Government documents are often “sorely lacking” in showing respect for people who wind up behind bars or who used drugs, David Getchell of Gray told legislators last spring.
He called on them to rewrite state statutes “with language that represents the humanity of a person” in order to avoid stigmatizing them.
Gayla Sheldon, who called herself a resident of the Southern Maine Women’s Reentry Center in Windham, urged legislators to get rid of words such as prisoner, inmate and repeat offender.
“Why use such language that will tear a person down more?” Sheldon asked.
At their urging, the Legislature agreed last spring to see what could be done to strip away the sorts of words that Sheldon and Getchell suggested they remove from the statutes.
The Maine Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers supported the measure.
“Words matter. Language matters. The words we choose and the language we use signals to the world at large the things and people we value — and those that we don’t,” it testified.
The bill, introduced by state Rep. Bill Pluecker, a Warren independent, required a working group to identify problematic terms — such as convict and drug user — and suggest changes.
A new report from the Office of the Revisor of Statutes, submitted to the Legislature’s Committee on Criminal Justice and Public Safety this week, suggests dozens of rewrites to state laws to carry out the Legislature’s intent.
The report lists revisions to the language in statutes related to the departments of Corrections, Public Safety, and Health and Human Services.
It said that the “specific stigmatizing terms and their substitutes” consisted of a few problematic terms.
The report recommends changing “prisoner, inmate or convict” to “resident of a correctional facility” or “resident of a jail.”
Where the law says “drug user,” the report would change the wording to “person who uses drugs.”
A probationer would be revised to “client of the Department of Corrections.”
Any reference to “mentally ill person” would be changed to “person with a mental illness.”
The Legislature’s Committee on Criminal Justice and Public Safety will consider what to do with the report. Pluecker said it would be used as the basis for revising the statutes this year.
The corrections community, though, isn’t waiting for the lawbooks to be rewritten.
Randall Liberty, corrections commissioner, told the committee last year that his department kicked off a campaign in 2020 that it called Language Matters.
The “department-wide initiative to ensure the use of person-centered language,” he said, had a goal of “de-stigmatizing incarceration and many of the circumstances and issues associated with it, while also changing a negative narrative and view of those working in corrections who are often stigmatized themselves.”
Liberty said correction staff was already “using less traditional language these days when referring to those in our custody,’ including referring to prisoners and inmates as “residents.”
“This change is part of the department’s commitment to reducing stigma, which began unofficially in 2019 when we partnered with McLean Hospital of Massachusetts on their deconstructing stigma campaign, which seeks to normalize seeking and receiving support during times of challenges, be it mental health, substance use, trauma, or otherwise,” Liberty said.
“The impetus of this partnership with McLean Hospital was to encourage staff and residents to feel comfortable seeking support for mental health issues,” he said, because “no one should suffer where there is support available.”
Liberty told legislators, “All this is to say, we get it. Stigma is real and it is insidious. Using person-first language is one way to fight against stigma.”
Check this one out. You think Legislators could find better things to spend their time on. I'd feel better if the term "Legislator" was on the list. My I propose "Person Who Has Their Head Up Their ASS!!"
Changes eyed to strip ‘prisoners’ and ‘inmates’ from Maine’s statute books
By Steve Collins January 18, 2022
Government documents are often “sorely lacking” in showing respect for people who wind up behind bars or who used drugs, David Getchell of Gray told legislators last spring.
He called on them to rewrite state statutes “with language that represents the humanity of a person” in order to avoid stigmatizing them.
Gayla Sheldon, who called herself a resident of the Southern Maine Women’s Reentry Center in Windham, urged legislators to get rid of words such as prisoner, inmate and repeat offender.
“Why use such language that will tear a person down more?” Sheldon asked.
At their urging, the Legislature agreed last spring to see what could be done to strip away the sorts of words that Sheldon and Getchell suggested they remove from the statutes.
The Maine Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers supported the measure.
“Words matter. Language matters. The words we choose and the language we use signals to the world at large the things and people we value — and those that we don’t,” it testified.
The bill, introduced by state Rep. Bill Pluecker, a Warren independent, required a working group to identify problematic terms — such as convict and drug user — and suggest changes.
A new report from the Office of the Revisor of Statutes, submitted to the Legislature’s Committee on Criminal Justice and Public Safety this week, suggests dozens of rewrites to state laws to carry out the Legislature’s intent.
The report lists revisions to the language in statutes related to the departments of Corrections, Public Safety, and Health and Human Services.
It said that the “specific stigmatizing terms and their substitutes” consisted of a few problematic terms.
The report recommends changing “prisoner, inmate or convict” to “resident of a correctional facility” or “resident of a jail.”
Where the law says “drug user,” the report would change the wording to “person who uses drugs.”
A probationer would be revised to “client of the Department of Corrections.”
Any reference to “mentally ill person” would be changed to “person with a mental illness.”
The Legislature’s Committee on Criminal Justice and Public Safety will consider what to do with the report. Pluecker said it would be used as the basis for revising the statutes this year.
The corrections community, though, isn’t waiting for the lawbooks to be rewritten.
Randall Liberty, corrections commissioner, told the committee last year that his department kicked off a campaign in 2020 that it called Language Matters.
The “department-wide initiative to ensure the use of person-centered language,” he said, had a goal of “de-stigmatizing incarceration and many of the circumstances and issues associated with it, while also changing a negative narrative and view of those working in corrections who are often stigmatized themselves.”
Liberty said correction staff was already “using less traditional language these days when referring to those in our custody,’ including referring to prisoners and inmates as “residents.”
“This change is part of the department’s commitment to reducing stigma, which began unofficially in 2019 when we partnered with McLean Hospital of Massachusetts on their deconstructing stigma campaign, which seeks to normalize seeking and receiving support during times of challenges, be it mental health, substance use, trauma, or otherwise,” Liberty said.
“The impetus of this partnership with McLean Hospital was to encourage staff and residents to feel comfortable seeking support for mental health issues,” he said, because “no one should suffer where there is support available.”
Liberty told legislators, “All this is to say, we get it. Stigma is real and it is insidious. Using person-first language is one way to fight against stigma.”
BennyV
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Someone gotta pay for all the others that don’t.
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