dsedy
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More than that. My friend she got a 5k apartment 3 bedroom all good size for $ 3500
Dx life Rx fishing
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Wait in a previous post you said that the over 70 population were at the greatest risk. Do any or all of your soccer players have grandparents?
Do you understand that because of what we did and are doing we are reducing the risk. Do you see the states that didn't do it and are still not doing it having a huge increase in cases and deaths? It seems pretty simple what to do but clearly you feel its too difficult. This is why we have to close indoor dining etc... because we have the way to mitigate it but people don't believe it. So reap what is sown.
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You would be wrong. Listen Snowflake If you want me not to comment don't post stupid stuff. Don't post in a... now get this... PUBLIC FORUM.
What does me having kids or not, have to do with anything anyway? How about this I have a parent that is over 80 years old and I don't want your symptom less kid infecting my mom. So you can STFU or don't post in a PUBLIC FORUM.
Clearly more people disagree with you than agree with you in regards to social distancing and masks. That is why we needed to shut things down. Its real simple Don, wear the mask keep your distance diligently wash your hands. If the entire country did this we would likely be on the downward cycle of this like MOST OF THE WORLD. But keep listening to the president and keep getting your panties in a bunch.
What does me having kids or not, have to do with anything anyway? How about this I have a parent that is over 80 years old and I don't want your symptom less kid infecting my mom. So you can STFU or don't post in a PUBLIC FORUM.
Clearly more people disagree with you than agree with you in regards to social distancing and masks. That is why we needed to shut things down. Its real simple Don, wear the mask keep your distance diligently wash your hands. If the entire country did this we would likely be on the downward cycle of this like MOST OF THE WORLD. But keep listening to the president and keep getting your panties in a bunch.
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Curious as to why there were only 7 kids at soccer practice. As long as I can remember (and i started soccer at 5ys old) there are 11 that make up a team. Did the smart parents know better and keep their kids safe while the reckless parents put their kids at risk?
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New York (brown dots) has been a catastrophe. On March 20, 2020, a full lockdown was implemented. Nonessential businesses were ordered to close. Workers in nonessential businesses were ordered to work only from home. Pharmacies, grocery stores, liquor stores, and wine stores were deemed to be essential and allowed to remain open. Restaurants and bars could only deliver to homes. In addition to the lockdown, nursing homes were ordered on March 25, 2020, to accept patients positive for the covid-19 virus in transfer from hospitals. … By April 7, 2020, within three weeks of the nursing home order, a daily mortality of over fifty deaths per day per million population had been reached. This daily mortality rate was almost five times the peak rate observed in Sweden, where no lockdown was implemented.
The New York data clearly show that interactions among young and healthy people have a much different risk than interactions between the young and elderly and interactions among the elderly. By facilitating the transmission of the virus from hospitals to nursing homes, the rate of spread within the elderly population was maximized, and any possible benefit from lockdown of the young and healthy population was rendered moot. … The decline of deaths from the peak levels in New York, with its harsh lockdown, has followed roughly the same time course as what has been observed in Sweden without any lockdown. It is unclear whether the lockdown interfered with herd immunity or not. This will not be known until after the economy and schools are completely reopened for at least a month.
Sweden (blue dots) has served as a control group to compare policies intended to decrease deaths from covid-19. Sweden has been unfairly criticized for its policy despite having an outcome more favorable than places with authoritarian lockdown policies. Sweden did not close its schools. Other than stopping gatherings of more than fifty people, the Swedish government left decisions of closing businesses, using masks, and social distancing to the Swedish people.
The data suggest that lockdowns have not prevented any deaths from covid-19. At best, lockdowns have deferred death for a short time, but they cannot possibly be continued for the long term. It seems likely that one will not have to even compare economic deprivation with loss of life, as the final death toll following authoritarian lockdowns will most likely exceed the deaths from letting people choose how to manage their own risk. After taking the unprecedented economic depression into account, history will likely judge these lockdowns to be the greatest policy error of this generation.
The New York data clearly show that interactions among young and healthy people have a much different risk than interactions between the young and elderly and interactions among the elderly. By facilitating the transmission of the virus from hospitals to nursing homes, the rate of spread within the elderly population was maximized, and any possible benefit from lockdown of the young and healthy population was rendered moot. … The decline of deaths from the peak levels in New York, with its harsh lockdown, has followed roughly the same time course as what has been observed in Sweden without any lockdown. It is unclear whether the lockdown interfered with herd immunity or not. This will not be known until after the economy and schools are completely reopened for at least a month.
Sweden (blue dots) has served as a control group to compare policies intended to decrease deaths from covid-19. Sweden has been unfairly criticized for its policy despite having an outcome more favorable than places with authoritarian lockdown policies. Sweden did not close its schools. Other than stopping gatherings of more than fifty people, the Swedish government left decisions of closing businesses, using masks, and social distancing to the Swedish people.
The data suggest that lockdowns have not prevented any deaths from covid-19. At best, lockdowns have deferred death for a short time, but they cannot possibly be continued for the long term. It seems likely that one will not have to even compare economic deprivation with loss of life, as the final death toll following authoritarian lockdowns will most likely exceed the deaths from letting people choose how to manage their own risk. After taking the unprecedented economic depression into account, history will likely judge these lockdowns to be the greatest policy error of this generation.
New York (brown dots) has been a catastrophe. On March 20, 2020, a full lockdown was implemented. Nonessential businesses were ordered to close. Workers in nonessential businesses were ordered to work only from home. Pharmacies, grocery stores, liquor stores, and wine stores were deemed to be essential and allowed to remain open. Restaurants and bars could only deliver to homes. In addition to the lockdown, nursing homes were ordered on March 25, 2020, to accept patients positive for the covid-19 virus in transfer from hospitals. … By April 7, 2020, within three weeks of the nursing home order, a daily mortality of over fifty deaths per day per million population had been reached. This daily mortality rate was almost five times the peak rate observed in Sweden, where no lockdown was implemented.
The New York data clearly show that interactions among young and healthy people have a much different risk than interactions between the young and elderly and interactions among the elderly. By facilitating the transmission of the virus from hospitals to nursing homes, the rate of spread within the elderly population was maximized, and any possible benefit from lockdown of the young and healthy population was rendered moot. … The decline of deaths from the peak levels in New York, with its harsh lockdown, has followed roughly the same time course as what has been observed in Sweden without any lockdown. It is unclear whether the lockdown interfered with herd immunity or not. This will not be known until after the economy and schools are completely reopened for at least a month.
Sweden (blue dots) has served as a control group to compare policies intended to decrease deaths from covid-19. Sweden has been unfairly criticized for its policy despite having an outcome more favorable than places with authoritarian lockdown policies. Sweden did not close its schools. Other than stopping gatherings of more than fifty people, the Swedish government left decisions of closing businesses, using masks, and social distancing to the Swedish people.
The data suggest that lockdowns have not prevented any deaths from covid-19. At best, lockdowns have deferred death for a short time, but they cannot possibly be continued for the long term. It seems likely that one will not have to even compare economic deprivation with loss of life, as the final death toll following authoritarian lockdowns will most likely exceed the deaths from letting people choose how to manage their own risk. After taking the unprecedented economic depression into account, history will likely judge these lockdowns to be the greatest policy error of this generation.
Would be nice to see graph normalized per capita and another graph showing when the strict measures for NY & IL were instituted, not sure if TX ever did anything, along with the predicted mortality w/o measures. That graph would be even more beneficial with ICU bed occupancy graphed on the other Y Axis.
Just want to get the total picture as to how bad of a chit storm NY avoided.
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Drop you guard and masks, ignore social distancing and gathering orders and VOILA!! FYI, Millinocket is WAY ABOVE the "Toothline"...
After wedding in Millinocket, 28 test positive for COVID-19
pressherald.com/2020/08/17/maine-cdc-reports-29-cases-no-additional-deaths/
By Eric RussellStaff WriterAugust 17, 2020
At least 28 people associated with a wedding reception held on Aug. 7 at the Big Moose Inn in Millinocket have tested positive for COVID-19.
Eighteen of those individuals attended the reception and another 10 had close contact with attendees, the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention said. All are Maine residents.
“Maine CDC continues to conduct case investigations and contact tracing for guests, staff, and people who potentially came in close contact with confirmed cases during and after the event,” the agency said in a news release Monday. “Anyone who attended an event at Big Moose Inn on August 7, 2020, and who has symptoms of COVID-19 should call their health care provider before seeking medical care.”
Approximately 65 people attended the event. It wasn’t clear if the reception was held indoors or outside, but current state restrictions call for gatherings to be limited to 50 people inside and 100 people outside. Face coverings are also supposed to be worn in public settings when physical distancing is not possible.
The Maine CDC said it is in contact with Big Moose Inn about the nature of the event and adherence to state requirements. Director Dr. Nirav Shah is expected to address the outbreak during a briefing Tuesday.
A message left with the manager of the Big Moose Inn was not returned Monday.
Robert Peterson, CEO of Millinocket Regional Hospital, said all the individuals who have tested positive so far are being treated as out-patients and have not required hospitalization. Peterson also said testing was ongoing at the hospital’s main campus and at a satellite clinic in East Millinocket and he expected the number of cases to increase. Everyone who attended the wedding who has not been tested is being asked to quarantine for 14 days.
“As our situation continues to evolve, so will our response,” he said. “We will be constantly monitoring the data and catering our response accordingly.”
Although summer in Maine is typically a busy time for weddings, the pandemic has forced many couples to postpone their events. Still, this is the second known outbreak associated with a wedding. Six out-of-state guests who attended a private wedding in Castine in June tested positive.
After wedding in Millinocket, 28 test positive for COVID-19
By Eric RussellStaff WriterAugust 17, 2020
At least 28 people associated with a wedding reception held on Aug. 7 at the Big Moose Inn in Millinocket have tested positive for COVID-19.
Eighteen of those individuals attended the reception and another 10 had close contact with attendees, the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention said. All are Maine residents.
“Maine CDC continues to conduct case investigations and contact tracing for guests, staff, and people who potentially came in close contact with confirmed cases during and after the event,” the agency said in a news release Monday. “Anyone who attended an event at Big Moose Inn on August 7, 2020, and who has symptoms of COVID-19 should call their health care provider before seeking medical care.”
Approximately 65 people attended the event. It wasn’t clear if the reception was held indoors or outside, but current state restrictions call for gatherings to be limited to 50 people inside and 100 people outside. Face coverings are also supposed to be worn in public settings when physical distancing is not possible.
The Maine CDC said it is in contact with Big Moose Inn about the nature of the event and adherence to state requirements. Director Dr. Nirav Shah is expected to address the outbreak during a briefing Tuesday.
A message left with the manager of the Big Moose Inn was not returned Monday.
Robert Peterson, CEO of Millinocket Regional Hospital, said all the individuals who have tested positive so far are being treated as out-patients and have not required hospitalization. Peterson also said testing was ongoing at the hospital’s main campus and at a satellite clinic in East Millinocket and he expected the number of cases to increase. Everyone who attended the wedding who has not been tested is being asked to quarantine for 14 days.
“As our situation continues to evolve, so will our response,” he said. “We will be constantly monitoring the data and catering our response accordingly.”
Although summer in Maine is typically a busy time for weddings, the pandemic has forced many couples to postpone their events. Still, this is the second known outbreak associated with a wedding. Six out-of-state guests who attended a private wedding in Castine in June tested positive.
dsedy
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We actually had 9 on our team last fall which is a good # considering they play 5v5 at the intramural level. 7 showed 1 is out for the Fall and the other, switched to a different club altogether since the family moved.
At one point they were discussing if ventilator use was the right approach, since the mortality rate was sky high if you were put on one. I haven't heard that chatter in a while though.
IIRC it was more of case of if a patient is bad enough to get put on a ventilator, it was already too late. Additionally, now there is much additional data on things like Cytokine Storms, that MDs are cognizant of, allowing for early intervention treatments that may help a patient avoid slipping into the need for a ventilator.
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Weddings seem to keep coming up!
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Los Angeles cuts utilities on home after parties
Los Angeles has cut utility services on a Hollywood Hills home that held multiple parties in reckless defiance of the city’s coronavirus restrictions, Mayor Eric Garcetti said Wednesday. “Despite several warnings, this house has turned into a nightclub in the hills, hosting large gatherings in...
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wader
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'Silent spreaders' of COVID-19: Kids who seem healthy may be more contagious than sick adults, study says
Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital and Mass General Hospital for Children found seemingly 'healthy' kids had more virus than sick adults.
A new study adds to growing evidence that children are not immune to COVID-19 and may even play a larger role in community spread than previously thought.
Researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital and Mass General Hospital for Children found that among 192 children, 49 tested positive for the coronavirus and had significantly higher levels of virus in their airways than hospitalized adults in intensive care units, according to the study published Thursday in the Journal of Pediatrics.
“Kids are not immune from this infection, and their symptoms don’t correlate with exposure and infection,” said Dr. Alessio Fasano, senior author and director of the Mucosal Immunology and Biology Researcher Center at Massachusetts General Hospital.
Fasano said some children were brought to these settings after exhibiting symptoms, but others showed no symptoms and were brought in because they had been in contact with an infected person or lived in what was considered a high-risk area.
BennyV
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Well that demographic doesn’t care about city/state/federal laws. They only care about religious laws.
dsedy
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Interesting set of studies around T-Cells in this Business Insider Article. Looks like they reference the actual studies with links to them in the article.
www.businessinsider.com
We now have the best evidence yet that everyone develops long-term coronavirus immunity after infection — and it's not just about antibodies
Research shows that COVID-19 patients — including those with asymptomatic or mild cases — develop T cells that can fight the virus if it returns.
www.businessinsider.com
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