movetheboat
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More than 40,000 in Florida overdue for 2nd dose of coronavirus vaccine
maybe they forgot?? lol
More than 40,000 in Florida overdue for 2nd dose of coronavirus vaccine
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maybe they forgot?? lol
More than 40,000 in Florida overdue for 2nd dose of coronavirus vaccine
movetheboat
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get er done!!! lol
January 17, 2021
Larry D. Croom
COVID-19 has claimed eight more local residents as new cases of the deadly virus continued to be reported Sunday across the tri-county area and Florida at an alarming rate.
Seven of the latest fatalities were residents of Marion County and the other one lived in Sumter County. They are among the 1,075 deaths in the local area, the 24,515 in Florida and the 396,549 across the country.
As of Sunday, the tri-county area was reporting 47,950 COVID-19 cases – an increase of 349 in a 24-hour period. A total of 2,954 local residents also have been hospitalized.
All told, Florida is reporting 1,571,279 cases – an increase of 11,093 from Saturday to Sunday. Of those, 1,542,567 are residents. A total of 71,371 cases have been reported in long-term care centers and 28,203 in correctional facilities. Across the state, there have been 24,515 deaths and 67,997 people have been hospitalized.
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8 more local residents succumb to COVID-19 as Florida reports another significant spike
January 17, 2021
Larry D. Croom
COVID-19 has claimed eight more local residents as new cases of the deadly virus continued to be reported Sunday across the tri-county area and Florida at an alarming rate.
Seven of the latest fatalities were residents of Marion County and the other one lived in Sumter County. They are among the 1,075 deaths in the local area, the 24,515 in Florida and the 396,549 across the country.
As of Sunday, the tri-county area was reporting 47,950 COVID-19 cases – an increase of 349 in a 24-hour period. A total of 2,954 local residents also have been hospitalized.
All told, Florida is reporting 1,571,279 cases – an increase of 11,093 from Saturday to Sunday. Of those, 1,542,567 are residents. A total of 71,371 cases have been reported in long-term care centers and 28,203 in correctional facilities. Across the state, there have been 24,515 deaths and 67,997 people have been hospitalized.
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longcast
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Why are they overdue? Lack of vaccine?
longcast
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Get what done? Cut paste and garbage comments!! Explain.
movetheboat
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IGNORANCE
“I heard there are some seniors balking at getting the second shot because they’ve heard that the side effects are worse with the second shot,” Seminole County EMS Medical Director Todd Husty said.
The second shot is supposed to have worse side effects than the first, and it means your body is doing what it’s supposed to do which is mount a defense against the virus.
Husty said the solution is educating people that getting coronavirus is far worse than the side effects.
He said the side effects of the booster can be handled with some rest and a Tylenol.
“I heard there are some seniors balking at getting the second shot because they’ve heard that the side effects are worse with the second shot,” Seminole County EMS Medical Director Todd Husty said.
The second shot is supposed to have worse side effects than the first, and it means your body is doing what it’s supposed to do which is mount a defense against the virus.
Husty said the solution is educating people that getting coronavirus is far worse than the side effects.
He said the side effects of the booster can be handled with some rest and a Tylenol.
longcast
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Ah, that's better. Just checking.
movetheboat
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Jeff Zients, Biden's COVID czar, inherits hardest job in administration
Zients is known in D.C. circles for his ability to navigate thick bureaucracies.
yup fixing this mess will not be easy!!
Jeff Zients, Biden's COVID czar, inherits hardest job in administration
THAILAND DISPATCH
PHOTHARAM, Thailand — The bat caves reeked of bat.
In the murk of the grottoes, in a cave complex west of Bangkok, Thais in headlamps and with flashlights went about their business.
Pilgrims to the temple that owns the complex prayed to Buddha figurines in one of the caves, the statues’ carved expressions betraying no reaction to the plip-plop-ploop of bat droppings falling on their shoulders.
Collectors of bat dung, or guano, scraped up the droppings to sell as fertilizer, hefting bags of manure through an obstacle course of stalactites and stalagmites.
And medical researchers, overseen by one of the world’s foremost bat virologists, trapped the winged mammals to test them for traces of the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. Scientists believe it originated in bats.
Outside the complex, the abbot of the Buddhist temple, which calls itself the “temple of hundreds of millions of bats,” took to a loudspeaker to tell visitors that the resident flying mammals were harmless.
“Don’t worry, these bats don’t carry disease because they are insect-eating bats,” Phra Khru Witsuthananthakhun, the abbot, said. “Everyone knows that when fruit bats eat fruit, they share it with other animals, such as rats, and that’s how disease spreads.”
The temple’s abbot is correct that fruit-eating bats have been linked to serious viruses that have leapt into the human population. But insect-eating bats have given humans their share of deadly illnesses. Many virologists believe the horseshoe bat, an avid bug eater, may be linked to the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. And a Thai national park report identified a species of horseshoe bat in the caves.
The area around the caves, Photharam District in Ratchaburi Province, has tied its fortunes to bats — drawing tourists, fertilizer companies and, most important of late, the chiropterologists, scientists who study flying mammals.
Local villagers collect bat droppings to sell as nitrogen-rich fertilizer in the Khao Chong Phran Cave.
At the local economy’s tiny, fluttering heart — some bats can vary their heart rate by 800 beats per minute — is Khao Chong Phran Temple, which owns the limestone grottoes where the bats shelter during the day. In one cave alone, there are three million bats from 10 different species.
Nearly one-quarter of the world’s mammal species are bats, and their ability to fly while hosting a petri dish of viruses makes them both zoological marvels and efficient vectors of disease. Infectious diseases that are believed to have emerged from bats in recent decades include coronaviruses like SARS and MERS, along with other viruses like Nipah, Hendra and Ebola.
Most of these viruses were transferred from bats to an intermediate host, like a palm civet or camel, before making their way to humans.
Although the coronavirus that causes Covid-19, which came to public attention in late 2019, has not been conclusively traced to bats, in Yunnan Province in southwestern China, a researcher found evidence in horseshoe bats of a virus that closely resembles it. Horseshoe bat droppings from Cambodia have also shown some linkages. And the same kind of bat was the natural reservoir for the SARS coronavirus.
The discovery of the possible connection between horseshoe bats and the coronavirus linked to Covid-19 prompted Dr. Supaporn Watcharaprueksadee, the deputy chief of the Center for Emerging Infectious Disease of Thailand and a specialist in bat-borne viruses, to investigate whether bats in Thailand, which is not far from Yunnan and Cambodia, may share a similar viral load.
Dr. Supaporn said her team has found no trace of a coronavirus similar to the one that causes Covid-19 in the bats of Khao Chong Phran Temple although other coronaviruses have been discovered there. Nor has she found any horseshoe bats there.
Testing of human residents in and around Khao Chong Phran, including of guano collectors who have spent decades in proximity with bats, turned up no antibody evidence of the virus, either.
Nevertheless, the sight of researchers, clad head to toe in personal protective equipment, has surprised a community that relies on bats as its economic mainstay.
“There’s no Covid here,” said Auenjit Kaewtako, a district health volunteer who has been coming to Khao Chong Phran for 40 years. “Why should we blame the bats?”
Although Thailand was the first country outside of China to confirm a case of Covid-19 — in a Chinese tourist visiting last January — the nation had appeared since May to have all but strangled local transmission. Thais have been generally vigilant about wearing face masks, and the country’s borders were ordered closed to prevent the virus from arriving from abroad.
But in recent weeks, the coronavirus has begun spreading across the country after first being identified in migrant communities working along the porous border with Myanmar. Thailand went from no cases of local transmission in months to reporting hundreds of cases a day in late December and January.
Xenophobia has spiked, along with chiroptophobia, the fear of bats.
In the view of the guano collectors of Khao Chong Phran, which is not far from the frontier with Myanmar, the anxiety caused by bats is overblown. There are 17 species of bats in the area, and only two are fruit-eating bats tied with the spread of disease, they say. The rest consume insects, which means the bat droppings shimmer with iridescent residue from bug wings.
“Even before my grandfather’s generation, we collected guano from the caves,” said Jaew Yemcem, 65, resting on the temple grounds with her bare feet nestled in soft mounds of bat excrement. “They were fine, and we are fine.”
Every Saturday morning before dawn, Khao Chong Phran allows guano collectors, some wearing homemade balaclavas to protect themselves from dripping dung, to enter the caves and mine for the nitrogen-rich fertilizer. Many of the workers walk barefoot to better negotiate a ground slippery with condensation and bat gunk.
After buying the guano from the collectors, the temple auctions it to farmers or agricultural middlemen, who say just a handful of the fertilizer added an alluring sweetness to guavas and an impressive girth to papayas.
The collectors receive about 85 cents per bucket of guano and can accumulate a dozen pails each day if they’re lucky.
In some Southeast Asian countries, bats are prized eating. While temple stalls at Khao Chong Phran once sold barbecued bats, locals no longer eat them because they have been designated protected animals, said Dr. Supaporn, who has been researching the area’s bats for a decade.
But Prangthip Yencem, who works as a cook’s assistant at a local school during the week and mines guano on Saturdays, said bat consumption, while lower, continues. Bat tastes good in any number of preparations, she said, including sautéed with chile and holy basil or deep-fried with garlic and white pepper.
For men, bat blood with a shot of alcohol is an invigorating cocktail, she said.
Residents of the area don’t hunt bats anymore since the abbot has warned them against it, Ms. Prangthip said. But if the odd bat happens to fly into a telephone pole and plummet to the ground, who would turn down a free meal?
“Even now people eat bats,” she said, “and they don’t get Covid.”
The population of bats in Photharam District has declined in recent decades, victims of the urban sprawl that is eating up rural Thailand. The heavy use of pesticides has also deprived bats of their food.
With fewer bats around, there is half as much guano collected as a decade ago. The existence of fewer bats has disrupted pollination patterns, harming tropical ecosystems in a similar way to the decline in bees.
And, crucially, some bat virologists believe a spike in stress among bats could make the animals more vulnerable to symptoms of disease, possibly increasing the chances of viruses leaping to other species.
Normally, bats can live healthy lives with multiple viruses coursing through their bodies. But the accouterments of human development — tall buildings, electricity wires and expanses of cement — may stress bat bodies as they work overtime to use echolocation, the pinging of sound frequencies to determine their surroundings.
Phra Somnuek, now a monk at the temple, remembers when he was a child the sky darkened for more than two hours at dusk with the shadows of millions of bats heading out for their evening feeds. The flight of the bats, still a tourist attraction, is now done in 45 minutes, he said.
“I’m worried that one day bats will only be a legend here,” he said. “If we lose our bats, we lose what makes us special.”
Thai Caves Attract Millions of Bats — and Now Scientists Too
A cave complex at a temple in Thailand has long drawn tourists, pilgrims and guano collectors. Now, scientists have arrived, looking for any potential links to the coronavirus.PHOTHARAM, Thailand — The bat caves reeked of bat.
In the murk of the grottoes, in a cave complex west of Bangkok, Thais in headlamps and with flashlights went about their business.
Pilgrims to the temple that owns the complex prayed to Buddha figurines in one of the caves, the statues’ carved expressions betraying no reaction to the plip-plop-ploop of bat droppings falling on their shoulders.
Collectors of bat dung, or guano, scraped up the droppings to sell as fertilizer, hefting bags of manure through an obstacle course of stalactites and stalagmites.
And medical researchers, overseen by one of the world’s foremost bat virologists, trapped the winged mammals to test them for traces of the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. Scientists believe it originated in bats.
Outside the complex, the abbot of the Buddhist temple, which calls itself the “temple of hundreds of millions of bats,” took to a loudspeaker to tell visitors that the resident flying mammals were harmless.
“Don’t worry, these bats don’t carry disease because they are insect-eating bats,” Phra Khru Witsuthananthakhun, the abbot, said. “Everyone knows that when fruit bats eat fruit, they share it with other animals, such as rats, and that’s how disease spreads.”
The temple’s abbot is correct that fruit-eating bats have been linked to serious viruses that have leapt into the human population. But insect-eating bats have given humans their share of deadly illnesses. Many virologists believe the horseshoe bat, an avid bug eater, may be linked to the coronavirus that causes Covid-19. And a Thai national park report identified a species of horseshoe bat in the caves.
The area around the caves, Photharam District in Ratchaburi Province, has tied its fortunes to bats — drawing tourists, fertilizer companies and, most important of late, the chiropterologists, scientists who study flying mammals.
Local villagers collect bat droppings to sell as nitrogen-rich fertilizer in the Khao Chong Phran Cave.
At the local economy’s tiny, fluttering heart — some bats can vary their heart rate by 800 beats per minute — is Khao Chong Phran Temple, which owns the limestone grottoes where the bats shelter during the day. In one cave alone, there are three million bats from 10 different species.
Nearly one-quarter of the world’s mammal species are bats, and their ability to fly while hosting a petri dish of viruses makes them both zoological marvels and efficient vectors of disease. Infectious diseases that are believed to have emerged from bats in recent decades include coronaviruses like SARS and MERS, along with other viruses like Nipah, Hendra and Ebola.
Most of these viruses were transferred from bats to an intermediate host, like a palm civet or camel, before making their way to humans.
Although the coronavirus that causes Covid-19, which came to public attention in late 2019, has not been conclusively traced to bats, in Yunnan Province in southwestern China, a researcher found evidence in horseshoe bats of a virus that closely resembles it. Horseshoe bat droppings from Cambodia have also shown some linkages. And the same kind of bat was the natural reservoir for the SARS coronavirus.
The discovery of the possible connection between horseshoe bats and the coronavirus linked to Covid-19 prompted Dr. Supaporn Watcharaprueksadee, the deputy chief of the Center for Emerging Infectious Disease of Thailand and a specialist in bat-borne viruses, to investigate whether bats in Thailand, which is not far from Yunnan and Cambodia, may share a similar viral load.
Dr. Supaporn said her team has found no trace of a coronavirus similar to the one that causes Covid-19 in the bats of Khao Chong Phran Temple although other coronaviruses have been discovered there. Nor has she found any horseshoe bats there.
Testing of human residents in and around Khao Chong Phran, including of guano collectors who have spent decades in proximity with bats, turned up no antibody evidence of the virus, either.
Nevertheless, the sight of researchers, clad head to toe in personal protective equipment, has surprised a community that relies on bats as its economic mainstay.
“There’s no Covid here,” said Auenjit Kaewtako, a district health volunteer who has been coming to Khao Chong Phran for 40 years. “Why should we blame the bats?”
Although Thailand was the first country outside of China to confirm a case of Covid-19 — in a Chinese tourist visiting last January — the nation had appeared since May to have all but strangled local transmission. Thais have been generally vigilant about wearing face masks, and the country’s borders were ordered closed to prevent the virus from arriving from abroad.
But in recent weeks, the coronavirus has begun spreading across the country after first being identified in migrant communities working along the porous border with Myanmar. Thailand went from no cases of local transmission in months to reporting hundreds of cases a day in late December and January.
Xenophobia has spiked, along with chiroptophobia, the fear of bats.
In the view of the guano collectors of Khao Chong Phran, which is not far from the frontier with Myanmar, the anxiety caused by bats is overblown. There are 17 species of bats in the area, and only two are fruit-eating bats tied with the spread of disease, they say. The rest consume insects, which means the bat droppings shimmer with iridescent residue from bug wings.
“Even before my grandfather’s generation, we collected guano from the caves,” said Jaew Yemcem, 65, resting on the temple grounds with her bare feet nestled in soft mounds of bat excrement. “They were fine, and we are fine.”
Every Saturday morning before dawn, Khao Chong Phran allows guano collectors, some wearing homemade balaclavas to protect themselves from dripping dung, to enter the caves and mine for the nitrogen-rich fertilizer. Many of the workers walk barefoot to better negotiate a ground slippery with condensation and bat gunk.
After buying the guano from the collectors, the temple auctions it to farmers or agricultural middlemen, who say just a handful of the fertilizer added an alluring sweetness to guavas and an impressive girth to papayas.
The collectors receive about 85 cents per bucket of guano and can accumulate a dozen pails each day if they’re lucky.
In some Southeast Asian countries, bats are prized eating. While temple stalls at Khao Chong Phran once sold barbecued bats, locals no longer eat them because they have been designated protected animals, said Dr. Supaporn, who has been researching the area’s bats for a decade.
But Prangthip Yencem, who works as a cook’s assistant at a local school during the week and mines guano on Saturdays, said bat consumption, while lower, continues. Bat tastes good in any number of preparations, she said, including sautéed with chile and holy basil or deep-fried with garlic and white pepper.
For men, bat blood with a shot of alcohol is an invigorating cocktail, she said.
Residents of the area don’t hunt bats anymore since the abbot has warned them against it, Ms. Prangthip said. But if the odd bat happens to fly into a telephone pole and plummet to the ground, who would turn down a free meal?
“Even now people eat bats,” she said, “and they don’t get Covid.”
The population of bats in Photharam District has declined in recent decades, victims of the urban sprawl that is eating up rural Thailand. The heavy use of pesticides has also deprived bats of their food.
With fewer bats around, there is half as much guano collected as a decade ago. The existence of fewer bats has disrupted pollination patterns, harming tropical ecosystems in a similar way to the decline in bees.
And, crucially, some bat virologists believe a spike in stress among bats could make the animals more vulnerable to symptoms of disease, possibly increasing the chances of viruses leaping to other species.
Normally, bats can live healthy lives with multiple viruses coursing through their bodies. But the accouterments of human development — tall buildings, electricity wires and expanses of cement — may stress bat bodies as they work overtime to use echolocation, the pinging of sound frequencies to determine their surroundings.
Phra Somnuek, now a monk at the temple, remembers when he was a child the sky darkened for more than two hours at dusk with the shadows of millions of bats heading out for their evening feeds. The flight of the bats, still a tourist attraction, is now done in 45 minutes, he said.
“I’m worried that one day bats will only be a legend here,” he said. “If we lose our bats, we lose what makes us special.”
GOP criticizes bill that would penalize quarantine-breakers
New York conservatives continue to hammer a bill introduced six years ago as what they...
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wader
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I mean - really???
Rick67
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Yep hope some of the left read that. Could you imagine? The only problem I didn’t have with that proposal is it would allow nut houses to be open. The reason they are not open is what keeps that bill from happening. Hurts feelings.GOP criticizes bill that would penalize quarantine-breakers
New York conservatives continue to hammer a bill introduced six years ago as what they...
Nope. my doctor is not part of a conglomerate and even posted a link to the completely useless (for now) state health dept. (Same doctor who referred me to my pharmacy for shinglex.) If pharmacies get it I will line up there. For now, just have no intention of doing anything more than grocery shopping once a week, visiting my periodontist and any other required medicos, and an occasional takeout visit and deer hunt on my nuisance permit. Fishing shows, visiting relatives, etc. NO WAY. I got through 2020 with kayaking, swimming, hunting, ship modelling, gardening, boating and can and will do it again. I laugh at all the Snoozeday articles quoting people who say they got or want the vaccine so they can start eating in restaurants, hugging school-age children, going to the gym, etc. Maybe by the fall.
wader
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UK to 'look carefully' at claims vaccine efficacy in Israel has dropped to 33 per cent with one dose
Britain will "look carefully" at claims that the Pfizer vaccine fails to protect as well as expected following research into the first 200,000 people given the jab in Israel, Sir Patrick Vallance has said. The first real-world data showed the first dose led to a 33 per cent reduction in cases of...
movetheboat
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thats lunatic fringe chit...that's why its been doing nothing since 2015 and won't....the right doesn't have a monopoly on whack jobs....close to it but not quite
live bait
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Still have to be careful, our Daughter in Law caught the virus during a Dentist appointment......John
went to my periodontist yesterday for a 55 minute teeth cleaning, and my wife works one day a week assisting our dentist which is how she already got the first shot two weeks ago !!
However with all the cleaning they do between patients, gowns, masks, sanitizer, gloves, maybe she got it from another patient ? Perhaps checking the temperature as one walks in isn't enough ? And is your DIL absolutely certain she got it at the dentist ? Did they close later on when a member of the staff came down with it ? Was your DIL anywhere else in the previous ten days ? I am just saying that all this contact tracing going on - its far from an exact science, just a way to quarantine EVERYONE in contact.
However with all the cleaning they do between patients, gowns, masks, sanitizer, gloves, maybe she got it from another patient ? Perhaps checking the temperature as one walks in isn't enough ? And is your DIL absolutely certain she got it at the dentist ? Did they close later on when a member of the staff came down with it ? Was your DIL anywhere else in the previous ten days ? I am just saying that all this contact tracing going on - its far from an exact science, just a way to quarantine EVERYONE in contact.
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DIL saw Dentist, & got a call next day that the Dental Assistant called the office to say she wasn't feeling well, went for a test & tested positive DIL quarantined away from the family & didn't go to work Three or four days later DIL had symptoms, & tested positive, This was over two weeks ago, DIL is 45yrs & still not coming out of it, no smell or taste, & gets out of breath quick.
John
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wader
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New COVID-19 variant defeats plasma treatment, may reduce vaccine efficacy
The new COVID-19 variant identified in South Africa can evade the antibodies that attack it in treatments using blood plasma from previously recovered patients, and may reduce the efficacy of the current line of vaccines, scientists said on Wednesday. Researchers are racing to establish whether...
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