Cuomo wants to double the size of the Artificial reef sites.

[Pangaroo]

The current reefs are about 3400 acres , they wanna double that to almost 7000 acres. And put reef material near the Wind Farms.

 

[Pangaroo]

The plan doesn't include reef material near the Wind Farms. They should build reefs right next to the windfarms because they won't be Navigation Hazards for big ships that will steer clear of the Wind Farms. The DEC planned a reef a few miles south of the Cholera Banks a few years ago and they withdrew the plan because of the Navigation Hazard.

 

[movetheboat]

Great job!!! double it!! thank you

 

[pequa1]

Hopefully for you ocean going guys it should happen before we get a new governor. Add the wind farms and maybe some fish will have a fighting chance, a place to hide from the draggers?

 

[longcast]

Great job if they can get it done.

 

[BennyV]

He better hurry up before more accusers come forward.

 

[movetheboat]

3 more and he's a shoe-in for the supreme court

 

[Pangaroo]

7000 Acres is about 3.5 miles by 3.5 miles. Nice big area . Make the Mudhole off N.J. a Marine Sanctuary and only allow recreational fishing. Protect whiting and Ling there and many other species will be attracted to that area and flourish. Over several winters in the late 80's and 90's they sucked up everything in the Mudhole and we haven't seen whiting in 30 years. Some mate on a Freeport Party boat( first name was Steve) was also a commercial fisherman and he said the commercials were 100 percent responsible for the whiting decline. Ling are making a comeback because many of them hid in rocks and wrecks and there were enough to build a population again. And Ling weren't good for the market.

 

[BennyV]

3 more and he's a shoe-in for the supreme court

Nah his accusers actually remember exactly what happened.

 

[pequa1]

Nah his accusers actually remember exactly what happened.

and the look on that woman's face as he put his filthy hands on it was quite enough for many of us.

 

[movetheboat]

on it?? geeezus

 

[BennyV]

on it?? geeezus

From the looks of it he was trying to put something else on it

 

[pequa1]

talk about a picture being worth a thousand words...

 

[movetheboat]

He's an ugly mug for sure

 

[movetheboat]

Nah his accusers actually remember exactly what happened.

of course someone wrote it down for them maybe?

 

[pequa1]

of course someone wrote it down for them maybe?

could be, but then there is that smart phone photo above, and even as a heterosexual male I cringe...

 

[george]

OK let's keep the politics out of it. I know it's hard at times like this but the political angle has nowhere to go but down. This is a fishing site and what he's doing is really good for recreational anglers. Remember the lost railway cars to NJ? Now we get to keep the debris for reefs. And trust me this is not something the commercial fisherman want as they're not allowed within 500 of them. Here' how the coms see it:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo's proposal to expand artificial reefs in the waters off Long Island is hitting a wave of opposition from commercial fishermen who say it would rob them of their fishing grounds and income.
Fishermen who spoke with News 12 say they are already dealing with extraordinary challenges brought forth by harvest limits, the shrinking economy caused by the pandemic and the loss of fishing grounds.
They say expanded artificial reefs could wipe out their industry by further limiting their access to certain fishing areas.
The artificial reef program that began in New York state back in 2018 was created by dropping discarded metal structures in concrete off Long Island's shoreline from The Rockaways to Huntington Bay, encompassing more than 3,000 acres. The state wants to double the size of the reefs.
Bonnie Brady, of the Long Island Commercial Fishing Association, says the move will affect the ability of commercial fishermen to fish for squid and other species, which she says they rely on to make a living.
“They are losing a huge chunk of their income by basically putting a stop sign right where they normally fish,” she says.
Malcolm McClintock, who owns two fishing trawlers, says he has already spent a long time learning where the existing artificial reefs are. He says more would create a larger problem for an industry already under stress.
“It's just another thing,” he told News 12. “One more thing piled on top of many other things. Every little bit hurts.”
State Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Basil Seggos says he wants to sit down with commercial fishermen and “work on the placement of the reefs so that everyone is accommodated.”
The state DEC says an environmental impact statement still needs to be reviewed, as well as public commentary. Once that is completed, the expansion of the reefs is expected to happen sometime over the summer.
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[Pangaroo]

They shouldn't be allowed to export fish out of NY. The Ocean can't feed people any more. They sucked up all the whiting and Ling and sent those fish to Spain and Italy/ Europe in the 90's and we haven't had a season for them in almost 30 years. That's what irritates me the most, they destroy the fishing in local waters to feed people half way around the world.

 

[movetheboat]

They shouldn't be allowed to export fish out of NY. The Ocean can't feed people any more. They sucked up all the whiting and Ling and sent those fish to Spain and Italy/ Europe in the 90's and we haven't had a season for them in almost 30 years. That's what irritates me the most, they destroy the fishing in local waters to feed people half way around the world.

had nothing to do with feeding people...it was all about short sightedness and making a quick buck. Instead of letting the goose lay those golden eggs ...they killed it. It still goes on today in all of our resources, not just fishing. If regulations are attempted the quick buck lobby goes nuts!!! Good Lord they were going after federal lands/parks recently

 

[Pangaroo]

OK let's keep the politics out of it. I know it's hard at times like this but the political angle has nowhere to go but down. This is a fishing site and what he's doing is really good for recreational anglers. Remember the lost railway cars to NJ? Now we get to keep the debris for reefs. And trust me this is not something the commercial fisherman want as they're not allowed within 500 of them. Here' how the coms see it:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo's proposal to expand artificial reefs in the waters off Long Island is hitting a wave of opposition from commercial fishermen who say it would rob them of their fishing grounds and income.
Fishermen who spoke with News 12 say they are already dealing with extraordinary challenges brought forth by harvest limits, the shrinking economy caused by the pandemic and the loss of fishing grounds.
They say expanded artificial reefs could wipe out their industry by further limiting their access to certain fishing areas.
The artificial reef program that began in New York state back in 2018 was created by dropping discarded metal structures in concrete off Long Island's shoreline from The Rockaways to Huntington Bay, encompassing more than 3,000 acres. The state wants to double the size of the reefs.
Bonnie Brady, of the Long Island Commercial Fishing Association, says the move will affect the ability of commercial fishermen to fish for squid and other species, which she says they rely on to make a living.
“They are losing a huge chunk of their income by basically putting a stop sign right where they normally fish,” she says.
Malcolm McClintock, who owns two fishing trawlers, says he has already spent a long time learning where the existing artificial reefs are. He says more would create a larger problem for an industry already under stress.
“It's just another thing,” he told News 12. “One more thing piled on top of many other things. Every little bit hurts.”
State Department of Environmental Conservation Commissioner Basil Seggos says he wants to sit down with commercial fishermen and “work on the placement of the reefs so that everyone is accommodated.”
The state DEC says an environmental impact statement still needs to be reviewed, as well as public commentary. Once that is completed, the expansion of the reefs is expected to happen sometime over the summer.
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I never voted for the guy, I worry who comes next. At least with Cuomo, he came out and said NY was open to hunting and fishing. Bring politics into it and things won't be so nice here.