Coronavirus

One day, when we look back on the pandemic and what was done right/wrong, Fauci will be one of those people who they will say gave guidance and treaded cautiously while giving the public a sense of reassurance. He was probably too exposed however given the circumstances, it was necessary.

If you didnt trust Fauci, who DID you trust?
 
I think we are better off for being overly cautious in the beginning of this thing. I said the way we come out of it and open back up is going to be a giant cluster f*^%. It’s going to happen to fast in some areas and too slow in other areas.

A lesson I learned relatively early in life: In some situations you can’t make everyone happy.

The one takeaway I have (as should most people that can think for themselves) is how the media & other individuals at the head of organizations can singlehandedly either report or bury stories based on their political allegiance. When certain people were saying that this thing may have come from a lab it was dismissed almost immediately. Now all of the sudden they need to go back and fact check 2 years later. Good luck finding any evidence.
 
OVERBORED said:
One day, when we look back on the pandemic and what was done right/wrong, Fauci will be one of those people who they will say gave guidance and treaded cautiously while giving the public a sense of reassurance. He was probably too exposed however given the circumstances, it was necessary.

If you didnt trust Fauci, who DID you trust?
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You know who
 
cany said:
Why do you guys have to turn everything political?? when you now we dont allow it here
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Politics infuses everything we do. Even if you wanted to limit it to forum topics, you're still looking at fishing and hunting regulations, funding of reef projects, boating facilities, DEC enforcement, pump out stations, beach driving or whatever else we stumble across. Even the fuel our boats burn to take us fishing or what certifications you suddenly need to operate boats that you've been operating for decades is influenced by politics.

Fully 50% of those inevitable things,... You know,... death and taxes...

are political.
 
cany said:
Why do you guys have to turn everything political?? when you now we dont allow it here
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Spoken or unspoken it’s all colored by politics
It’s now ingrained in us as a society
You may attempt to control it here but it oozes out of us all with every word every post , maybe not spoken directly but it’s there
No matter what we may think we are no matter what designation we may give ourselves
What we are are how we align is known
So every word every post on any thread is
Colored as such

try as you might to lock it down you’ll fail again

it’s all politics , at least for the near future

get back to us in 15/20 years May change
 

The Best And Worst Places to Be as The World Finally Reopens​

By Jinshan Hong, Rachel Chang and Kevin Varley
June 28, 2021

THE U.S. RANKS #1 BEST PLACE TO BE POST PANDEMIC
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Almost a year and a half into the pandemic, the best and worst places to be in the Covid-19 era are increasingly defined by one thing: normalization.
The biggest vaccination drive in history is enabling parts of the globe to abolish mask mandates, relax restrictions and dismantle border curbs, making the magnitude of reopening key to quality of life. Taming cases and deaths was once paramount, along with ensuring a robust health-care system. Now, the ability to essentially turn back the clock and return to pre-pandemic times is taking on an even greater significance.
Central to that is an economy’s openness to the world, and that’s why we’ve introduced a new element—Reopening Progress—to Bloomberg’s Covid Resilience Ranking. Two new metrics capture the ease of moving in and out of a place and how much air travel has recovered, alongside our 10 other measures tracking mortality rates to infection counts, freedom of movement to economic growth.
This pivot has ushered in dramatic changes to the ranks. The U.S. is now No. 1, with its fast and expansive vaccine rollout, dominated by the highly effective Messenger RNA shots, stemming what was once the world’s worst outbreak.

Covid Resilience Ranking​

Get info and sort on table headers ?

  • ← Worse


  • Better →
REOPENING PROGRESSCOVID STATUS ⇣QUALITY OF LIFE ⇣
RANKECONOMYBLOOMBERG RESILIENCE SCOREPEOPLE COVERED BY VACCINESLOCKDOWN SEVERITYFLIGHT CAPACITYVACCINATED TRAVEL ROUTES
1U.S.7650.3%47-20.1%334
2New Zealand73.710.3%22-31.3%140.5
3Switzerland72.941%48-69.9%365.5
4Israel72.959.1%22-63.7%134.5
5France72.840.3%48-59.3%346.5
6Spain7241.7%54-54.7%365
7Australia70.114.2%50-35.3%136.5
8Mainland China69.940.8%781.7%121.5
9U.K.68.757.1%51-77.8%216.5
10South Korea68.619.2%50-46.4%137
11Norway67.936.5%59-59.9%133
12Denmark67.543.2%50-73.2%173.5
13Singapore6744.1%58-83%137
14Turkey66.928.2%63-39.2%354.5
15Saudi Arabia66.925.2%54-44.2%349
16Belgium66.445.3%51-62.6%170.5
17Finland66.138.1%48-83.2%142.5
18U.A.E.65.870%61-59.9%253
19Greece65.836.9%45-42.9%187.5
20Romania6523.2%43-33.2%371
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US surpasses Israel in Bloomberg COVID resilience ranking​

The United States surged past Israel to take the No. 1 slot this month in Bloomberg’s COVID Resilience Ranking while Israel remains at No. 4.​

By MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN
JUNE 28, 2021 18:52
 
Interesting snippet from a NY Times article today (Markets Work, but Untangling Global Supply Chains Takes Time). Bottom line, look for prices to start dropping on items that have surplus manufacturing capacity, so don't be expecting anything that needs computer chips anytime soon. Feel bad for a neighbor who pre-purchased most of the lumber he needed to build his house in May...

The cure for high prices is high prices.

That’s an old line used in commodity markets, and it helps explain why the great inflation scare of 2021 has eased some in recent weeks. When the price of something soars because demand outstrips supply, it has a way of self-correcting. Buyers, scared off by high prices, find other options, and sellers crank up production to take advantage of a profit opportunity.

It is an idea simple enough to be taught in the first few weeks of any introductory economics class, but one with powerful implications for the American economy as it aims for a post-pandemic reboot.

Several of the key products whose prices had soared in the spring have grown less expensive, as producers have increased output and buyers have held tight. This is particularly evident with lumber; as of Friday, its price was down 47 percent from its early-May peak (though still well above historical norms). Sawmills responded to soaring prices by pushing the limits of their capacity.

The prices of corn, copper and a variety of other economically important commodities are also down by double-digit percentages since early May. This supports the notion that the inflation the world has been experiencing is transitory — set to ease in the months ahead as the laws of supply and demand take hold.
 
Stay tuned there will be more side effects and warnings to come

and no I’m not saying that at the end of the day the side effects will be so sever that they outweigh the benefits

simply that we have no idea yet what they will be and that
They will occur

we all must make our own decisions
As to the near and long term risk
 
JackPrintMD said:
More people in Australia have died from the vaccine than the Viris.

Don’t see that story causing any alarm….. anywhere.
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The little research I just did stated that the 20 who died after being vaccinated probably did not die from the vaccine itself. With such a dismal record regarding vaccinating its populous (see: '113th-ranked' Australia, Indian variant and debunking vaccine myths in CoronaCheck ) I would tend to doubt anything from that country statistically. COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 10-06-2021 But you guys continue to go unvaccinated. I am looking forward to air travel and a cruise.
 
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pequa1 said:
Where isthelink 4 that?
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Just looked it up and I can't find any confirmation of more vaccine deaths than COVID-19 deaths in Australia:

To 6 June 2021, the TGA has received 272 reports of death following vaccination for COVID-19 vaccines. Link: COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 10-06-2021

At this link: australia covid deaths - Google Search there's a report of 910 deaths.

Regardless, the numbers are very "close", mostly because Australia had and continues to have very stringent shut down rules and have used strict rules to isolate themselves from the disease so the number of folks who have gotten sick per capita is very low.

US has had 33.6 million cases on a population of 331 million or 10%

Australia has had 910 deaths on a population of 25.7 million or 0.0035%. The real take home message here is how effective strict enforcement of mitigation like mask wearing, quarantines, shut downs, etc. really works!!!
 
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