Coronavirus

[Roccus7]

Hey, here something I think we all can agree on...

We Need Clear Goals for Every Covid-19 Policy​

By Joseph G. Allen and Helen Jenkins Dr. Allen is director of the Healthy Buildings program at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and has studied how Covid-19 spreads in indoor spaces. Dr. Jenkins is an associate professor at Boston University School of Public Health and an infectious disease epidemiologist.

While the availability of vaccines refocused the U.S. response to the pandemic, many policy questions remain. Should vaccinated people get boosters? Does everyone need to wear a mask? Are unvaccinated children safe in schools?

We think much of the confusion and disagreement among scientists and nonexperts alike comes down to undefined and sometimes conflicting goals in responding to the pandemic. What are we actually trying to achieve in the United States?

If the goal is getting to zero infections and staying at that level before dropping restrictions, one set of policies apply. If the goal is to make this virus like the seasonal flu, a different set of policies follow.

If you care to read the entire essay, here's the link:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/us-covid-policy.html

 

[TonySmjc]

Your facts
Dom
Lots of information coming out of Israel that kinda disputes your Maine facts

and that’s the rub
There’s plenty of information from reliable sources on both sides
Pro and con

 

[jpd]

Oops

Texas anti-mask ‘Freedom Defender’ Caleb Wallace dies at 30

A Texas man who led a group of “Freedom Defenders” against mask restrictions died of COVID-19 on Saturday at age 30. Caleb Wallace left behind three children and a pregnant wife. His wi…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[TonySmjc]

Some mask wearing Vaxer died too

opps

 

[Roccus7]

Your facts
Dom
Lots of information coming out of Israel that kinda disputes your Maine facts

and that’s the rub
There’s plenty of information from reliable sources on both sides
Pro and con

Let's see your data please?

In Maine we're 70% vaccinated and the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks, that's a fact.

Twist it however you like, vaccinations help keep you out of the hospital better than not getting vaccinated and the data prove it.

 

[Rick67]

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Let's see your data please?

In Maine we're 70% vaccinated and the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks, that's a fact.

Twist it however you like, vaccinations help keep you out of the hospital better than not getting vaccinated and the data prove it.

And increases problems with blood clots says the maker, and what’s this about?

 

[Roccus7]

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And increases problems with blood clots says the maker, and what’s this about?
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That's been around a while, now you're woke? Once again, very small on a percentage basis...

 

[TonySmjc]

Let's see your data please?

In Maine we're 70% vaccinated and the vast majority of hospitalizations are unvaccinated folks, that's a fact.

Twist it however you like, vaccinations help keep you out of the hospital better than not getting vaccinated and the data prove it.

It’s out there
Take your head out of your ass and go find it

I’m done playing nice

 

[Rick67]

This should be adequate.

 

[Roccus7]

It’s out there
Take your head out of your ass and go find it

I’m done playing nice

Oh, what's a matter, you don't have it handy?? SHOCKING!! The stuff I've read has said the vaccinated Israelis don't get as sick or as often as the unvaccinated.

And I was expecting a great "Personal Experience" saga about the third cousin of a Kibbutz's arborist involved with the "Plant A Tree In Israel" program. What a let down...

 

[Roccus7]

I'm at a loss for words, besides the COVID "Hoax", a NASA-run Child Slave Colony on Mars??

Conspiracy theorist who held Belfast rally and called COVID-19 a hoax dies of COVID​

pressherald.com/2021/08/30/conspiracy-theorist-who-hosted-belfast-event-dies-of-covid-19/

By Scott Thistle August 30, 2021

A far-right conspiracy theorist who hosted a July rally in Belfast where he called COVID-19 a “hoax” has died in a Florida hospital after contracting the virus.

Robert David Steele, a former CIA officer, who had also claimed NASA is operating a child slave colony on Mars, rallied a large crowd at the Crosby Center in Belfast on July 27. Steele was joined by a delegation of Maine conservative notables as well, including Christiane Northrup of Yarmouth and state Rep. Heidi Sampson, R-Alfred.

Multiple media sources in Maine and nationally are reporting Steele’s death, which appeared to be confirmed by his supporters on social media, who are now saying he was murdered by opponents seeking to silence him.

Steele appeared at the rally in Belfast with Sampson as part of nationwide tour by the group Arise USA, which has been critical of COVID-19 restrictions and alleges 2020 election fraud.

Steele and Sampson both called for a “forensic audit” of Maine’s 2020 election results during the rally, despite there being no evidence of any disparities or even widespread complaints about Maine’s 2020 election results.

Sampson did not immediately return a phone message left for her Monday afternoon.

On Aug. 17, Steele posted a photo of himself in a Florida hospital wearing an oxygen mask and predicted he would survive. “With love to you all I survived!” Steele wrote. “I went in at 77 oxygenation. I’m up to 94. I will not take the vaccination, though I did test positive for whatever they’re calling ‘COVID’ today, but the bottom line is that my lungs are not functioning.”

On Sunday, anti-vaccination advocate Mark Tassi posted a video on Instagram announcing Steele’s death. “It was the typical respiratory thing,” Tassi said, noting he was suspicious of Steele’s death and later said it was an effort to discredit Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, who has faced increasing criticism for his administration’s response to the pandemic.

 

[TonySmjc]

Nope I don’t file all the information away neatly to produce it for you
I don’t really care to lay it all out for you

you get off on that shit
all well and good
Not my thing

just get back in your dingy and go abuse a bass all by your lonesome

 

[TonySmjc]

I kn

Oh, what's a matter, you don't have it handy?? SHOCKING!! The stuff I've read has said the vaccinated Israelis don't get as sick or as often as the unvaccinated.

And I was expecting a great "Personal Experience" saga about the third cousin of a Kibbutz's arborist involved with the "Plant A Tree In Israel" program. What a let down...I’ll

i know only you and your information are valid

you should consider moving to
Onacock with wader
Peas in a pod

 

[Roccus7]

Nope I don’t file all the information away neatly to produce it for you
I don’t really care to lay it all out for you

you get off on that shit
all well and good
Not my thing

just get back in your dingy and go abuse a bass all by your lonesome

So, you can't produce what doesn't exist? You certainly can talk the talk, but can't even crawl the walk!!

Speaks volumes of the depth and quality, or lack thereof, of the BS you spew...

And yes, I'll certainly be in my boat bass fishing tomorrow AM, a trip and early retirement funded by a career in science...

 

[Roccus7]

i know only you and your information are valid

You couldn't be more wrong there. I love to learn and new, valid information is most appreciated. Your personal recollections and experience don't qualify here. A citation from an Israeli medical journal would be of utmost interest to me. I just asked you to support your claim, if that bothers you, then you obviously can't support that claim, can you???

On the other hand, you consistently try to debunk published information if it doesn't fit you "Personal Experience", so who's the bigger loser here???

 

[TonySmjc]

No you like most of your kind
Like to pretend your interested
You can say it all you like
But everything you type says otherwise

Hey don’t take it the wrong way
I don’t doubt there’s some validity to your data
I don’t doubt that shots have a useful place in the fight

my issue is with forcing them on anyone
My issue is with the fact us the jury’s still out on the long term effects and benifits of getting jabbed

my issue is with ridiculing any one that isn’t on board with getting one
my issue is with laughing at the suffering of others that didn’t get it


you want it take it
If it works as it should youll be fine

but the techniques and tactics being pushed by you and wader and the rest are not going to work here and certainly are not going to work in general
In truth the have the exact opposite effect they drive ppl away from your cause

but you guys won’t stop
You are the faithful
Carry on

 

[JackPrintMD]

Oops

Texas anti-mask ‘Freedom Defender’ Caleb Wallace dies at 30

A Texas man who led a group of “Freedom Defenders” against mask restrictions died of COVID-19 on Saturday at age 30. Caleb Wallace left behind three children and a pregnant wife. His wi…

www.nydailynews.com

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What time is the party you and Wader are throwing for your celebration of death.

Let me know so I can send a few other participants

 

[jpd]

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Why time is the party you and Wader are throwing for your celebration of death.

Let me know so I can send a few other participants

Sorry Jack, we give Darwin awards around here all the time.

 

[TonySmjc]

Sorry Jack, we give Darwin awards around here all the time.

And there in lies the problem
You think your the arbiter of Smart
And have O compunction about calling ppl that disagree with you stupid

News flash
Most folks on here of about the same intelligence level
Some slight more or less educated but basically on the same socio economic level

They simply disagree with you and have plenty conflicting evidence to form their opinions with

A few of you really need to get the fuck off your high horses
Especially the ones with moderator in front of their names

Nah strike that since almost everyone that chats here holds that title
It would get boring without you

carry on

 

[JackPrintMD]

Sorry Jack, we give Darwin awards around here all the time.

If you really gave a shit about this guy you would have posted where it belongs.


”whoever smelt it, delt it’

typically the people giving out the awards are peers of the recipient.

good luck with that.