Banning all charter and party boats from Marinas in South Hampton

[Bassknuckles]

I don't know if this is true but I read there is a proposal to ban charter and party boats from marinas in South Hampton and their is a meeting at the South Hampton town hall on December 21st at 1:00 pm. Anyone have more information on this or if it is true? If it is it's another push from millionaires to now take over the Marinas for their yachts?

 

[Snapprhead27]

Town of Southampton Considering Ban on Charter Boats and Booze Cruises at Residential Marinas - 27 East

By Tom Gogola The Southampton Town Board is considering legislation that would ban charter boats and “booze cruises” from operating out of marinas located in residentially zoned districts. A public hearing on the matter is scheduled for the afternoon

www.27east.com

 

[Snapprhead27]

 

[Roccus7]

DAFAQ??? Sailboats got a bye with "sailing lessons" so sailing booze cruising could become sailing lessons...

 

[cany]

Unbelievable

 

[Hunter704]

WOW this is crazy

 

[pequa1]

The Land of No, moving eastward as we breathe...

 

[george]

I just heard about this today but I didn't have gone to confirm it. I'm going to assume it's accurate and pass it along here. There was an "issue" on a booze cruise charter where someone got hurt. So they're using this as an excuse to stop all residential docks from being used for any commercial purpose.

These are the same powerful people that managed to get the windmills pushed out of view. Very power and rich people get what they want.

 

[WhatKnot]

I just heard about this today but I didn't have gone to confirm it. I'm going to assume it's accurate and pass it along here. There was an "issue" on a booze cruise charter where someone got hurt. So they're using this as an excuse to stop all residential docks from being used for any commercial purpose.

These are the same powerful people that managed to get the windmills pushed out of view. Very power and rich people get what they want.

If that’s the case they should ban all Bars; I’m sure someone tripped while exiting and hurt themselves. Nonsense.

 

[captmike28]

I just heard about this today but I didn't have gone to confirm it. I'm going to assume it's accurate and pass it along here. There was an "issue" on a booze cruise charter where someone got hurt. So they're using this as an excuse to stop all residential docks from being used for any commercial purpose.

These are the same powerful people that managed to get the windmills pushed out of view. Very power and rich people get what they want.

As George has noted, this is just another attempt by certain people with a lot of money and influence to put an even greater burden on those of us who must still work to maintain our own desired lifestyle. All too often it seems that those of us who make most or even part of our incomes from water-based activities are seen as causing environmental harm, noise pollution, and a variety of other nonsensical problems. In fact, in most cases just the opposite is true. IMHO, typically, it is the exceedingly wealthy folks who have far less regard for the environment or their neighbors.

I am currently docked in a very nice, mainly pleasure boat-oriented marina and even here I am told, on occasion, that they are "accommodating" my charter business. This is despite the fact that I keep my slip impeccably clean, ask my clients to park where requested, be respectful of the other boat owners, etc. Some folks are just never happy unless they make someone else's life miserable.

 

[Snapprhead27]

If that’s the case they should ban all Bars; I’m sure someone tripped while exiting and hurt themselves. Nonsense.

Thry have slowly been getting rid of a lot of well known bars in the area over recent years.

 

[captmike28]

Thry have slowly been getting rid of a lot of well known bars in the area over recent years.

You just confirmed my closing statement above, Matt. Very sad.

 

[Roccus7]

Some folks are just never happy unless they make someone else's life miserable.

Such a sad, but accurate observation.

Thry have slowly been getting rid of a lot of well known bars in the area over recent years.

And we're seeing them sanitizing Montauk from a tiny village with a big fishing problem, to a Tony suburb with a huge Chardonnay problem.

 

[george]

The more I think about it the madder I get. I know I'll be on the zoom call. I'll see if I can capture any of it. First they came after surf fishers by banning trucks and anglers from"their beach." Then they push for windmills as long as they're not in their back yard. And now this.

They need to be reminded of the history of that region. How it was all built on the backs of commercial fishermen. It started as a whaling port, . Let's look at their storied Past

• 1640s Beginnings: It all started when English settlers landed in Southampton, using simple methods for sustenance fishing.
• 19th Century: The town saw a boom in commercial fishing. Better boats and tech meant more fish like cod and haddock were caught. Plus, the railroad opened up new markets.
• Early 20th Century: Recreational fishing took off! Wealthy folks and tourists loved the fishing scene here, leading to the rise of charter boats for day trips.
• Mid-20th Century Challenges: Overfishing and environmental issues led to regulations. The industry had to adapt, with many turning to tourism.
• Modern Times: Technology keeps changing the game, but Southampton stays true to its roots, balancing commercial and recreational fishing with sustainability in mind.

Fishing here isn’t just an industry; it’s part of their identity, evolving yet always connected to our maritime heritage. #SouthamptonFishing #MaritimeHistory

 

[pequa1]

Rich libs think nothing of history. Woke cancel culture and all that. Fishing is not their identity

 

[george]

If these changes go through, it’s not just a single issue, but our entire coastline that’s at risk. I’m ready to take significant action on this. It’s time for us to unite and make a stand, and we need to act quickly. I’m also curious about the potential role and power of our elected state representatives in this matter. I plan to investigate this further.

The lack of cohesion among the charter and party boat fleet, due to their ongoing internal disputes, has significantly weakened their influence. If I were in charge, my first move would be to highlight the impact of these changes on local businesses. We need to make them aware of the potential consequences and rally their support.

 

[pequa1]

Boutiques and fancy places are slowly but surely giving the rich libs out there what they want and long time little businesses, sell, take the money and leave NY. I don't even recognize Montauk Highway past Hampton Bays from when I last drove around doing background investigations twelve years ago.

 

[george]

I guess things didn't work out as planned

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Exploring the Shinnecock Fishing Dock: ​

A Vital Hub in Hampton Bays, New York​

Introduction: Nestled in the charming hamlet of Hampton Bays in Southampton, New York, the Shinnecock Fishing Dock stands as a testament to the region's rich maritime heritage. Developed in the early 1980s by the Suffolk County Department of Public Works, this dock has become a cornerstone of the local commercial fishing industry.

A Hub for Commercial Fishing: Home to approximately two dozen commercial fishing boats, the Shinnecock Fishing Dock is one of the largest fleets in New York State. This bustling hub not only supports a significant number of vessels, ranging from 40 to 90 feet in length but also plays a crucial role in the economic development of the area. The dock's strategic location and facilities have been instrumental in the growth and success of the local fishing industry.



Ownership and Management: In a significant move in 2019, Suffolk County transferred ownership of the Shinnecock commercial fishing dock to Southampton Town. This transfer included not just the 2-acre dock but also 11 acres of picturesque beachfront along Shinnecock Bay. This decision, requiring approval from multiple governmental levels, marked a new chapter in the dock's history. Under the town's management, there is a renewed focus on fostering and enhancing the success of the commercial fishing industry.

Impact on the Local Economy: The Shinnecock Fishing Dock is more than just a place for boats to berth; it's a lifeline for the local economy. The transfer of ownership to Southampton Town is anticipated to have a positive impact on the industry. With the town taking a more active role in the dock's management, there is an expectation of continued success and growth in the commercial fishing sector, further bolstering the local economy.

Conclusion: The Shinnecock Fishing Dock is not just a physical structure; it's a symbol of the enduring spirit of the maritime community in Hampton Bays. Its significance in the commercial fishing industry and its contribution to the local economy cannot be overstated. As it embarks on a new journey under the stewardship of Southampton Town, the dock stands ready to support and sustain the industry for years to come.

Sources:

1. County Transfers Ownership Of Shinnecock Fishing Dock To Town - Patch
2. Live Webcam Shinnecock Fishing Dock, Hampton Bays, NY
3. Facilities • Southampton, NY • CivicEngage

 

[AllHands]

As George has noted, this is just another attempt by certain people with a lot of money and influence to put an even greater burden on those of us who must still work to maintain our own desired lifestyle. All too often it seems that those of us who make most or even part of our incomes from water-based activities are seen as causing environmental harm, noise pollution, and a variety of other nonsensical problems. In fact, in most cases just the opposite is true. IMHO, typically, it is the exceedingly wealthy folks who have far less regard for the environment or their neighbors.

I am currently docked in a very nice, mainly pleasure boat-oriented marina and even here I am told, on occasion, that they are "accommodating" my charter business. This is despite the fact that I keep my slip impeccably clean, ask my clients to park where requested, be respectful of the other boat owners, etc. Some folks are just never happy unless they make someone else's life miserable.

Capt. Mike as a "leftover" you realize you live and work on the north annex of the south fork. This is my opinion, but over the last ten plus years and especially since covid there has been a huge influx of wealthy individuals who will pay whatever it takes to get what they want. Sorry to say, but the North Fork is morphing into the Hamptons, marina prices included. That being said I bailed last year to the Carolina's after living there full time for twenty something years. I hope I'm wrong because i still have friends there but if the last election is any indication I think the town of Southold is becoming the playground of wealthy progressives.

 

[Pangaroo]

Google Earth Southhampton and see one McMansion after another in the woods. The North Fork is so much better. Criminal they let NYC people build summer homes out there. Pass a law no summer homes. One home per family .