The Onancock Chronicles the Eastern shore

[wader]

it's not a matter of capacity

 

[Capt13]

edited ..... I basically said the same thing larry said.

 

[Roccus7]

those alerts are also issued when the temperatures are going to be very cold - most here heat & cool their homes with heat pumps that are electric - few use gas or oil

How thoughtful, you get a "gentlemen start your dripping" warning too to help those owning abodes with inadequate insulation? ? ? ?

 

[cany]

Move down South where its Hot but conserve electric and not use AC to save Money am I reading this right?

 

[Capt13]

Move down South where its Hot but conserve electric and not use AC to save Money am I reading this right?

You aren't reading it right at all. It means put off doing your laundry until the morning. Wait till later in the evening to run your dishwasher, etc. Making small changes to your schedule can help reduce everyone's electric bill. Unlike here where we get bent over by the electric company. My monthly electric bill here pushes 260, 280 some months. From what my neighbors tell me, I can expect to pay 75 to 90 a month including heat in the winter.

That's smart in my book. Not backwards. It doesn't mean turning off the A/C. Sheesh.

 

[cany]

Laundry dishwasher that can all be done by hand no ? That would save lots on the electric bill

 

[Capt13]

Laundry dishwasher that can all be done by hand no ? That would save lots ?

What ?

 

[cany]

You aren't reading it right at all. It means put off doing your laundry until the morning. Wait till later in the evening to run your dishwasher, etc. Making small changes to your schedule can help reduce everyone's electric bill. Unlike here where we get bent over by the electric company. My monthly electric bill here pushes 260, 280 some months. From what my neighbors tell me, I can expect to pay 75 to 90 a month including heat in the winter.

That's smart in my book. Not backwards. It doesn't mean turning off the A/C. Sheesh.

My bad wader posted it was 90 and AC on then you posted about an alert to conserve electric between 4 and 7 . I thought the two would be connected didnt know it was about doing laundry in the morning and dishes in the evening.

Is the conserving between 4am and 7 pm?

And I agree the electric bill sucks here Im glad I went to balanced billing

 

[Capt13]

4pm to 7pm, 3hrs.

 

[wader]

How thoughtful, you get a "gentlemen start your dripping" warning too to help those owning abodes with inadequate insulation? ? ? ?

has nothing to do with inadequate insulation & everything to do with the fact that there are no basements due to the high water level on the Peninsula & everything to do with the fact that water pipes for the most part are exposed to the elements (run under the house)....

Why do you folks have so much trouble comprehending things like that?

You live in Maine. Probably have a basement. Probably have all of your water connections in your basement.
If they were running under your house - exposed to outdoor temperatures you'd be dripping as well.

 

[wader]

My bad wader posted it was 90 and AC on then you posted about an alert to conserve electric between 4 and 7 . I thought the two would be connected didnt know it was about doing laundry in the morning and dishes in the evening.

Is the conserving between 4am and 7 pm?

And I agree the electric bill sucks here Im glad I went to balanced billing

My electric bills average $75 a month for heating, cooling, cooking, turning on the lights, etc.
I paid $250 in NY with no AC or Heating being part of that. I paid another $200 for oil to heat the house. That's $450 a month vs. $75 for more use or a savings of $375 a month - $4500 a year.

Wanna talk taxes?

 

[Roccus7]

has nothing to do with inadequate insulation & everything to do with the fact that there are no basements due to the high water level on the Peninsula & everything to do with the fact that water pipes for the most part are exposed to the elements (run under the house)....

Why do you folks have so much trouble comprehending things like that?

You live in Maine. Probably have a basement. Probably have all of your water connections in your basement.
If they were running under your house - exposed to outdoor temperatures you'd be dripping as well.

WRONG!!! Many houses in Maine are on slabs so your basement treatise is incorrect. And to complicate things most people have their own wells...

Got another excuse for inadequate insulation, be it pipes and/or houses???

 

[wader]

WRONG!!! Many houses in Maine are on slabs so your basement treatise is incorrect.

Got another excuse for inadequate insulation, be it pipes or houses???

how is it incorrect when the house is raised up a foot or so off the ground - the pipes run under the house suspended from the flooring - how do you insulate that short of stuffing the entire underside of the house with insulation?

Whatever the temperature is outside is what the temperature is under the house?
Apparently this is an issue in Maine as well.

How to avoid frozen pipes in Maine in the winter

Preventing Frozen Pipes in Maine I thought it would be a good idea to include this subject in our blog considering the deep freeze all of Maine experienced in the past couple of weeks. There are many ways to protect water pipes from freezing in winter weather. Be proactive by taking steps to preven

townsendre.com

Preventing or Thawing Frozen Water Pipes | Maine Emergency Management Agency

www.maine.gov

 

[wader]

and why the hell does everything on here have to be fight?

 

[cany]

My electric bills average $75 a month for heating, cooling, cooking, turning on the lights, etc.
I paid $250 in NY with no AC or Heating being part of that. I paid another $200 for oil to heat the house. That's $450 a month vs. $75 for more use or a savings of $375 a month - $4500 a year.

Wanna talk taxes?

Nope heard it all before....... I was just curious about as soon as the AC's go on your asked to conserve electricity seemed strange to me

 

[wader]

Nope heard it all before....... I was just curious about as soon as the AC's go on your asked to conserve electricity seemed strange to me

again - as John already said (and you seemed to understand it when he said it) - we are not being asked to conserve electricity - they are giving us the option to save some money by deferring certain uses for times of less demand - we can choose to take advantage of that or not - it is our choice

 

[Roccus7]

Yes, folks on double wides put in FROST WALLS to protect their pipes. It's INSULATION!! Some even use bales of hay around the crawl space to INSULATE.

If you read you little Emergency Thingie, it's big on INSULATION, oh what a concept...

Frozen water pipes aren't life threatening, however frozen or broken water pipes do cause damage to homes each winter. If pipes in the walls aren't properly insulated, they can freeze and rupture. (An 1/8-inch crack in a pipe can release up to 250 gallons of water a day, soaking floors, rugs, and furniture.) To prevent the mess and aggravation frozen pipes cause, protect your home or apartment by following the simple steps below.

Before Cold Weather

• Locate and insulate pipes most susceptible to freezing, typically those near outer walls, in crawl spaces or in the attic. Use insulation made especially for this purpose.
• Wrap pipes with heat tape (UL-approved).
• Seal any leaks that allow cold air inside where pipes are located.
• Disconnect garden hoses and shut off and drain water from pipes leading to outside faucets. This reduces the chance of freezing in the short span of pipe just inside the house.

No fight, you're the one that likes to gloss over things with a "that's normal" when they really could be prevented with proper, basic, good building practices. You don't need to have a basement to have to drip faucets when it gets a little below freezing, folks just need to insulate properly Furthermore better home insulation will help your heat pumps and keep the house cool/warm whenever the season, saving you money...

 

[wader]

Yes, folks on double wides put in FROST WALLS to protect their pipes. It's INSULATION!! Some even use bales of hay around the crawl space to INSULATE.

If you read you little Emergency Thingie, it's big on INSULATION, oh what a concept...

Frozen water pipes aren't life threatening, however frozen or broken water pipes do cause damage to homes each winter. If pipes in the walls aren't properly insulated, they can freeze and rupture. (An 1/8-inch crack in a pipe can release up to 250 gallons of water a day, soaking floors, rugs, and furniture.) To prevent the mess and aggravation frozen pipes cause, protect your home or apartment by following the simple steps below.

Before Cold Weather

• Locate and insulate pipes most susceptible to freezing, typically those near outer walls, in crawl spaces or in the attic. Use insulation made especially for this purpose.
• Wrap pipes with heat tape (UL-approved).
• Seal any leaks that allow cold air inside where pipes are located.
• Disconnect garden hoses and shut off and drain water from pipes leading to outside faucets. This reduces the chance of freezing in the short span of pipe just inside the house.

No fight, you're the one that likes to gloss over things with a "that's normal" when they really could be prevented with proper, basic, good building practices. You don't need to have a basement to have to drip faucets when it gets a little below freezing, folks just need to insulate properly Furthermore better home insulation will help your heat pumps and keep the house cool/warm whenever the season, saving you money...

My home (along with very many others - Town got it's Charter in 1680) was built in the late 1800's/early 1900's - to what was then considered "good building practices" for that era.

There is anywhere around 8 to 12 inches of clearance between the ground (like in earth) & the house itself. You can barley get under there - I can't - never mind stuffing it with hay (which will draw insects like mad) or attempting to wrap the pipes.

The interior of my home is well insulated - it was redone about 10 years ago - all plaster walls removed - walls insulated & new sheet rock installed. I replaced all the windows when I moved in here.

Both neighbors on either side of me have had their pipes go during an extended absence & guess what? The interior pipes did not go - it was the pipes under the house that went. Their homes date to approximately the same time period as mine.

It is a common problem here.
One that is easily negated by dripping your pipes when necessary (maybe 2 or 3 times a season).

 

[wader]

it rarely gets below freezing down here for more then a day or two at a time

 

[Chevy1]

1st 90 degree day down here - A/C on..............