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poorrichard

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I did not attend this year. The cost of the LIRR and the $20 admission made it prohibitive,

Just wondering what the feeling regarding the show.

Any better or worse than last year.
 
I think it’s tough to be worse than last year LOL.

Looked pretty full from some of the pictures and videos I watched. I was actually going to get a booth those year but I just couldn’t swing it. Too many shows.
 
From what friends in the business tell me, the cost of going to the show is insane, so the vendors are playing to the multimillion boating market, but then again, these types of boats can be seen in the water in Miami and the folks who have that kind of coin are usually in the south this time of year.

Bottom line, this show is self imploding. I'll bet we don't see it anymore in 5 years...
 
Roccus7 said:
From what friends in the business tell me, the cost of going to the show is insane, so the vendors are playing to the multimillion boating market, but then again, these types of boats can be seen in the water in Miami and the folks who have that kind of coin are usually in the south this time of year.

Bottom line, this show is self imploding. I'll bet we don't see it anymore in 5 years...
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To be honest I think you are on to something.

Most at of the guys that go to the show don’t buy a boat there and the ones that are there for boating related products simply don’t have the selection they want/need.

I was always blown away by this. You have guys that go boating/fishing/etc. Load up on vendors that sell these kinds of products. It’s not like they don’t have the room.
 
Roccus is exactly correct. It's about cost, and failing to adapt to a changing world. Also, typically, it's a New York racket issue. The space is stupidly expensive to start with, and then you have to schlep all those boats through Manhattan with all the attendant costs, tolls, red light cameras, speed cameras, DOT, and just the traffic. Then there's the union racket where you can't even empty a wastebasket or plug in an extension cord. It's not entirely about sales at the show itself, but about making contact and generating interest. But you can bet these companies are still doing the math to see if there's sufficient return to justify the cost. Based on that alone it's imploding just like NYC itself.
 
Avenger said:
Then there's the union racket where you can't even empty a wastebasket or plug in an extension cord.
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We're talking 40 years ago, but a friend with a small business supplying resins, etc. to boat builders, had a booth there and found a dead lightbulb in his booth. He went to replace it and was told it had to be done by a Union Electrician and got a bill of $75 just to screw in a lightbulb!!! I told him he was lucky that Union work rules didn't insist on a second electrician to be there...

Needless to say that was the last time he had a booth there...
 

Roccus7 said:
We're talking 40 years ago, but a friend with a small business supplying resins, etc. to boat builders, had a booth there and found a dead lightbulb in his booth. He went to replace it and was told it had to be done by a Union Electrician and got a bill of $75 just to screw in a lightbulb!!! I told him he was lucky that Union work rules didn't insist on a second electrician to be there...

Needless to say that was the last time he had a booth there...
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And if your friend was electrocuted trying to change the bulb, we'd be hearing a story about how there was no one available to change a bulb....... can't win.

That said, I'd rather go to in water shows like Miami where the boating season is year round rather than a city whos boating season is 3 months!
 
OVERBORED said:
And if your friend was electrocuted trying to change the bulb, we'd be hearing a story about how there was no one available to change a bulb....... can't win.
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Do you have an electrician over to change a dead lightbulb in your house??? ?

The lightbulb was part of his personal booth that he made. There's difference between realistic Union work rules, and Theatre of the Absurd. This event would make Bertolt Brecht proud...
 
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OVERBORED said:


And if your friend was electrocuted trying to change the bulb, we'd be hearing a story about how there was no one available to change a bulb....... can't win.

That said, I'd rather go to in water shows like Miami where the boating season is year round rather than a city whos boating season is 3 months!
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And a much friendlier state in all aspects!!
 
Avenger said:
Roccus is exactly correct. It's about cost, and failing to adapt to a changing world. Also, typically, it's a New York racket issue. The space is stupidly expensive to start with, and then you have to schlep all those boats through Manhattan with all the attendant costs, tolls, red light cameras, speed cameras, DOT, and just the traffic.
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On top they'll be hitting them with congestion pricing soon. :(
 
Roccus7 said:
We're talking 40 years ago, but a friend with a small business supplying resins, etc. to boat builders, had a booth there and found a dead lightbulb in his booth. He went to replace it and was told it had to be done by a Union Electrician and got a bill of $75 just to screw in a lightbulb!!! I told him he was lucky that Union work rules didn't insist on a second electrician to be there...

Needless to say that was the last time he had a booth there...
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How many Union Members does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Two, if they're small enough!
 
BoatGuy said:
Interesting. So why show multi-million-dollar boats? Boat in the 17 foot to under 30 foot might sell better up here.
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Because we're not their target market. They want the stinking rich, stock market gazillionaires who want those multimillion dollar boats that they'll dump in a season or two when their bonuses tank. Not all of them are done in FL...

Sell one multimillion dollar yach-it, and you've paid for the cost to be at the show, but it would take dozens of 17 footers to do the same...
 
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