Climate Change

Is the climate changing? Yes. Is it out of the ordinary or mankind’s fault. Who knows. I remember learning about the little ice age, etc back in grammar school. Anyone else remember that? Might be a similar situation.
 
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BennyV said:
Is the climate changing? Yes. Is it out of the ordinary or mankind’s fault. Who knows. I remember learning about the little ice age, etc back in grammar school. Anyone else remember that? Might be a similar situation.
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Who knows???
The scientific community knows that mankind is definitely at least contributing.
Do some research and pay attention to the tons of information that's available.

Is it all due to mankind? Of course not.
 
Chinacat said:
Who knows???
The scientific community knows that mankind is definitely at least contributing.
Do some research and pay attention to the tons of information that's available.

Is it all due to mankind? Of course not.
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I never said we weren’t contributing, but nice try.

Yes there’s tons of information available. Unfortunately there’s both good and bad information that gets shoved down everyone’s throats non stop. Analysis by paralysis if you will.

I’ll do my best to “do some research and pay attention.”
 
So, how much, and can we make a difference? Also, is everybody willing to get onboard? China is the biggest polluter on the planet and nobody seems to want to make them accountable. If we can't get them onboard, nothing we do will matter. If anything we do matters.
 
Maybe we can and maybe we can't. The planet is much bigger than humanity. If you can't factor that into the equation then good luck with your terra-forming project.
 
Avenger said:
So, how much, and can we make a difference? Also, is everybody willing to get onboard? China is the biggest polluter on the planet and nobody seems to want to make them accountable. If we can't get them onboard, nothing we do will matter. If anything we do matters.
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No one can say for sure.

No. Not everyone will be onboard. I’m talking countries. Not individuals.
 
wader said:
Doesn't matter if it's cyclical or humankind is accelerating it. You can't deny there is something serious afoot and it's a problem that needs to be addressed in a serious manner.
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Is something changing? Yes.

Who’s going to address and what are they going to do? Al Gore? Celebs?

The issue is bigger than what we do in this country. If another country doesn’t want to change they won’t.

So far this conversation has been light on politics. Hopefully it remains this way.
 
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Joe,Joe, Joe...

You've got 2 errors there and as a scientist I'm entrusted to keep facts straight. These are all Physical Chemistry Facts that you can test in your kitchen so no debate about them...

1st: Water is one of the few compounds that SWELLS as a solid, so when a FLOATING CHUNK of ice melts, there's LESS volume of liquid water. If you look carefully at the photo you'll see that the water level actually dropped a bit. Water swells 9% upon freezing, but the photo doesn't seem to show a 9% drop in volume because the floating ice displaced a volume of water equal to its weight, which in the case of water is equal to its volume...

2nd: Now before you go off thinking that melting the glaciers will DROP sea levels please notice that I said FLOATING ice. The vast major of earth's glacial ice sheets are on land, so as they melt they'll deposit all that terrestrial-based water into the oceans, RAISING the sea levels.

But wait, there's more. The weight of ice sheets that can be miles thick, compresses the ground below them. As they melt the compression forces abate so the depth of the water decreases, increasing the water level.

OK, I got too technical so here's the Readers Digest Version: Basically earth's water has stayed constant over the eons. At the height of the last ice age those massive glaciers contained enough water to drop sea levels by 100s of feet. As they melted the water ran off the land into the oceans so sea levels rose, and will continue to rise if the land-based glaciers continue to melt. So who are the #IDIOTS you figure cites??
 
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[QUnever looked at the water in the glasses, didn’t care...it was funny...still is funny?OTE="Roccus7, post: 58665, member: 51"]
Joe,Joe, Joe...

You've got 2 errors there and as a scientist I'm entrusted to keep facts straight. These are all Physical Chemistry Facts that you can test in your kitchen so no debate about them...

1st: Water is one of the few compounds that SWELLS as a solid, so when a FLOATING CHUNK of ice melts, there's LESS volume of liquid water. If you look carefully at the photo you'll see that the water level actually dropped a bit. Water swells 9% upon freezing, but the photo doesn't seem to show a 9% drop in volume because the floating ice displaced a volume of water equal to its weight, which in the case of water is equal to its volume...

2nd: Now before you go off thinking that melting the glaciers will DROP sea levels please notice that I said FLOATING ice. The vast major of earth's glacial ice sheets are on land, so as they melt they'll deposit all that terrestrial-based water into the oceans, RAISING the sea levels.

But wait, there's more. The weight of ice sheets that can be miles thick, compresses the ground below them. As they melt the compression forces abate so the depth of the water decreases, increasing the water level.

OK, I got too technical so here's the Readers Digest Version: Basically earth's water has stayed constant over the eons. At the height of the last ice age those massive glaciers contained enough water to drop sea levels by 100s of feet. As they melted the water ran off the land into the oceans so sea levels rose, and will continue to rise if the land-based glaciers continue to melt. So who are the #IDIOTS you figure cites??
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Roccus7 said:
Joe,Joe, Joe...

You've got 2 errors there and as a scientist I'm entrusted to keep facts straight. These are all Physical Chemistry Facts that you can test in your kitchen so no debate about them...

1st: Water is one of the few compounds that SWELLS as a solid, so when a FLOATING CHUNK of ice melts, there's LESS volume of liquid water. If you look carefully at the photo you'll see that the water level actually dropped a bit. Water swells 9% upon freezing, but the photo doesn't seem to show a 9% drop in volume because the floating ice displaced a volume of water equal to its weight, which in the case of water is equal to its volume...

2nd: Now before you go off thinking that melting the glaciers will DROP sea levels please notice that I said FLOATING ice. The vast major of earth's glacial ice sheets are on land, so as they melt they'll deposit all that terrestrial-based water into the oceans, RAISING the sea levels.

But wait, there's more. The weight of ice sheets that can be miles thick, compresses the ground below them. As they melt the compression forces abate so the depth of the water decreases, increasing the water level.

OK, I got too technical so here's the Readers Digest Version: Basically earth's water has stayed constant over the eons. At the height of the last ice age those massive glaciers contained enough water to drop sea levels by 100s of feet. As they melted the water ran off the land into the oceans so sea levels rose, and will continue to rise if the land-based glaciers continue to melt. So who are the #IDIOTS you figure cites??
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Roccus7 said:
Joe,Joe, Joe...

You've got 2 errors there and as a scientist I'm entrusted to keep facts straight. These are all Physical Chemistry Facts that you can test in your kitchen so no debate about them...

1st: Water is one of the few compounds that SWELLS as a solid, so when a FLOATING CHUNK of ice melts, there's LESS volume of liquid water. If you look carefully at the photo you'll see that the water level actually dropped a bit. Water swells 9% upon freezing, but the photo doesn't seem to show a 9% drop in volume because the floating ice displaced a volume of water equal to its weight, which in the case of water is equal to its volume...

2nd: Now before you go off thinking that melting the glaciers will DROP sea levels please notice that I said FLOATING ice. The vast major of earth's glacial ice sheets are on land, so as they melt they'll deposit all that terrestrial-based water into the oceans, RAISING the sea levels.

But wait, there's more. The weight of ice sheets that can be miles thick, compresses the ground below them. As they melt the compression forces abate so the depth of the water decreases, increasing the water level.

OK, I got too technical so here's the Readers Digest Version: Basically earth's water has stayed constant over the eons. At the height of the last ice age those massive glaciers contained enough water to drop sea levels by 100s of feet. As they melted the water ran off the land into the oceans so sea levels rose, and will continue to rise if the land-based glaciers continue to melt. So who are the #IDIOTS you figure cites??
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Ok, never looked at the water in the glasses, it was funny...still is funny...??
 
Roccus7 said:
Joe,Joe, Joe...

You've got 2 errors there and as a scientist I'm entrusted to keep facts straight. These are all Physical Chemistry Facts that you can test in your kitchen so no debate about them...

1st: Water is one of the few compounds that SWELLS as a solid, so when a FLOATING CHUNK of ice melts, there's LESS volume of liquid water. If you look carefully at the photo you'll see that the water level actually dropped a bit. Water swells 9% upon freezing, but the photo doesn't seem to show a 9% drop in volume because the floating ice displaced a volume of water equal to its weight, which in the case of water is equal to its volume...

2nd: Now before you go off thinking that melting the glaciers will DROP sea levels please notice that I said FLOATING ice. The vast major of earth's glacial ice sheets are on land, so as they melt they'll deposit all that terrestrial-based water into the oceans, RAISING the sea levels.

But wait, there's more. The weight of ice sheets that can be miles thick, compresses the ground below them. As they melt the compression forces abate so the depth of the water decreases, increasing the water level.

OK, I got too technical so here's the Readers Digest Version: Basically earth's water has stayed constant over the eons. At the height of the last ice age those massive glaciers contained enough water to drop sea levels by 100s of feet. As they melted the water ran off the land into the oceans so sea levels rose, and will continue to rise if the land-based glaciers continue to melt. So who are the #IDIOTS you figure cites??
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Slightly off topic... Antarctica Map from the 1500's. Not an ice sheet in sight. Perfect cartography of the underlying continent shape and mountains as it exists today, without any technology 500 years ago at the time the map of the continent was made.....only way to do that would have been from above looking down........hmmm ....Riddle me this batman :)

Piri Reis Map

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Piri Reis Map - How Could a 16th Century Map Show Antarctica Without Ice?

On October 9, 1929, a German theologian named Gustav Adolf Deissmann was cataloguing items in the Topkapi Palace library in Istanbul when he happened across a curious parchment located among some disr
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