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CELLFISH said:
“the Battle of Coral Sea“ 1942, carrier Lexington was lost, USS Yorktown struggled back to Pear Harbor... Engineers said they need three months for repairs, Admiral Nimitz said “I want it done in three days “ she sailed off to fight in the game changi
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Not sure how the Yorktown links to COVID, beyond we can do miraculous things when we try. HOWEVER few folks realize that the cautious nature of Admiral Nagumo at both Pearl Harbor and Midway sealed our victory that day
  • The Japanese were supposed to launch a 3rd wave attack on Pearl to take out the dry docks/shipyard, along with the fuel tank farm. Over cautiously, Nagumo decided against launching third wave in fear that he may actually sustain some significant losses, and the US carriers which were not in Pearl, were nearby.

    If he had launch the third wave he destruction of those infrastructure assets, the U.S. Pacific fleet would have had to retreat to the West Coast. That would have meant no fleet available for Coral Sea, Doolittle Raid or Midway. Even if the fleet stayed at Pearl, no working dry dock would mean no Yorktown repairs in time for Midway.

  • Nagumo's indecision over changing from a second wave against Midway to changing to an attack on the U.S. fleet meant we caught him with the fleet decks and hangar deck covered with planes, fuel and ordinance so one hit would result in massive damage to the carrier.
So if you think about it, Nagumo was an unwilling US hero at Midway
 
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Roccus7 said:
Not airborne, per CDC: VZV( Shingles Virus) spreads through direct contact with fluid from the rash blisters. Once again, virus shed in a aqueous matrix. Above precautions good. If it was truly airborne, it would necessitate a "Gas Mask" like mask...
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Ok. I'm not questioning your knowledge on what is actually airborne or droplet. You used the term airborne droplet in medical settings. I pointed out that to the average person and medical personnel they are 2 different levels of protection.

It is like i bet that most here dont know the difference between a CBC and a CBC with differential. I bet you do but most dont nor should they unless they have a need such as many oncology patients.
To flip that coin I bet most here know the difference between a wet and dry clutch but most people dont. Hell I bet a lot of people dont even know what a clutch is or does or that there even Is a wet and dry one. Airborne and droplet precautions are not the same. A virus may not be truly airborn but there is a different level of protection necessary.

My point is you used the term airborn droplet and to the average lay person,all the news outlets and medical personnel they are 2 different levels of precautions that require 2 different levels of protection. From a medical standpoint you used it incorrectly and your analogy was not quite correct.
 
It's good to be the KING!!!

King of Thailand ‘isolates’ from coronavirus with 20 women
By Lee Brown
March 30, 2020 | 10:03am | Updated


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Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn

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Thailand’s playboy king has taken over a luxury German hotel to isolate from the coronavirus — along with a harem of 20 women, according to reports.
King Maha Vajiralongkorn, 67, reportedly booked the entire Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl with “special permission” to break the lockdown in the Alpine resort town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen, the Independent said, quoting German media.
But rather than isolate, he moved in a harem of 20 concubines along with a team of servants, the UK paper said, citing German tabloid Bild.
The king, widely known as Rama X, planned an even bigger party — but 119 members of his entourage were forced to return to Thailand amid fears they had the potentially deadly bug, the report said.
It was not clear if his fourth wife, former flight attendant Suthida Tidjai, was even with him.
His takeover made local news because hotels in the region have been forced to close to stem the spread of the deadly coronavirus.
But the Grand Hotel Sonnenbichl was given special permission to host the king and his entourage because “the guests are a single, homogenous group of people with no fluctuation,” a spokesperson for the local district council said, according to the report.
Enlarge ImageGrand Hotel Sonnenbichl in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, GermanyZUMAPRESS.com
The often controversial Thai king’s extravagant move sparked further outrage in his homeland — with the hashtag “Why do we need a king?” appearing 1.2 million times on Twitter within 24 hours of news of his German trip first breaking, the Independent said.
Vajiralongkorn is not thought to have made a public appearance in his country since February, the Times of London said — even as it records more than 1,500 coronavirus cases and nine deaths as of Monday, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
Vajiralongkorn became constitutional monarch when his father, King Bhumibol Adulyadej, died in October 2016 after 70 years on the throne.
The Thai foreign ministry and the embassy in Berlin did not respond to requests for comment from the UK Times.
 
Dx life Rx fishing said:
Ok. I'm not questioning your knowledge on what is actually airborne or droplet. You used the term airborne droplet in medical settings. I pointed out that to the average person and medical personnel they are 2 different levels of protection.
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My point is you used the term airborn droplet and to the average lay person,all the news outlets and medical personnel they are 2 different levels of precautions that require 2 different levels of protection. From a medical standpoint you used it incorrectly and your analogy was not quite correct.
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Absolutely true and I thank you for duly chastising me for my inaccuracy. I should have remembered my favorite Biosafety Training Class Rant during the earlier days of HIV. I'd pick up 2 beakers and ask the class, "OK lets pretend one of these beakers contains active HIV and the other contains active TB. I'm going to smash one on the floor, which one should I smash?" Most, if not all, would immediately blurt out "Smash the TB!!" Then I got to say, "NOOOOOO!!!! Wrong answer!!! HIV can only infect you through blood and secretions, not by inhaling a droplet containing it like TB!!"

Right now, there are just too many fallacies and half truths floating regarding COVID-19. I assumed an average person seeing someone post that it's not an "Airborne" infectious agent may misinterpret that as not being an "Aerosol" in a potentially fatal manner. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

As an aside, when I ran an IVD manufacturing facility we made hematology instrument buffers. You looking for a 3 or 5 part diff? ;).

Take care - R7
 
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CELLFISH said:
It’s related, cauz it was said SS COMFORT wasn’t to be ready for weeks, hope they were truthful not hyping... cellie...
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DUH!! Forgot that. Ah yes, like Star Trek...

Scott: "Do you mind a little advice? Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now, and they want it their way. But the secret is to give only what they need, not what they want!"

LaForge: "Yeah, well I told the captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour."

Scott: "How long would it really take?"

LaForge: "An hour!"

Scott: "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would *really* take, did you?"

LaForge: "Well of course I did."

Scott: "Oh, laddie, you've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker!"
 
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Roccus7 said:
Absolutely true and I thank you for duly chastising me for my inaccuracy. I should have remembered my favorite Biosafety Training Class Rant during the earlier days of HIV. I'd pick up 2 beakers and ask the class, "OK lets pretend one of these beakers contains active HIV and the other contains active TB. I'm going to smash one on the floor, which one should I smash?" Most, if not all, would immediately blurt out "Smash the HIV!!" Then I got to say, "NOOOOOO!!!! Wrong answer!!! HIV can only infect you through blood and secretions, not by inhaling a droplet containing it like TB!!"

Right now, there are just too many fallacies and half truths floating regarding COVID-19. I assumed an average person seeing someone post that it's not an "Airborne" infectious agent may misinterpret that as not being an "Aerosol" in a potentially fatal manner. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

As an aside, when I ran an IVD manufacturing facility we made hematology instrument buffers. You looking for a 3 or 5 part diff? ;).

Take care - R7
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Hence my non-airborne remark earlier. To me as a former NBC officer, its the difference between droplets of mustard gas and aerosolized nerve agent like VX or even weaponized anthrax spores.
 
Not so much out of morbid curiosity, hopefully its out of genuine concern, but I am wondering if any of our members have been diagnosed with this, how they are doing, and if anything is needed.
 
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Egypt's pyramids send a message to the world

The message was written in both Arabic and English, as it was not only directed to Egyptians, but also to the whole world, said the tourism and antiquities minister, Khaled el Anani. "It is a message of solidarity to all the countries in which the virus has spread to an advanced stage," said...
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pequa1 said:
Not so much out of morbid curiosity, hopefully its out of genuine concern, but I am wondering if any of our members have been diagnosed with this, how they are doing, and if anything is needed.
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You're not alone. It's crossed my mind more then once.
 
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