New Dark Matter Rod

That looks to be a very cool little stick. I've always like the Dark Matter "Skinner" fluke rods and think their slightly slower taper is ideal for minimizing hook pulls on those larger head-shaking fluke. And they do handle the heavier jig and sinker weights that we commonly use offshore.

However, this weekend one of my dock mates brought over a fairly new Skinner fluke rod that broke right at the foregrip. Snapped clean off. I've seen a lot of broken graphite rods over the years, but never one that broke in that location. On top of that, the blank's wall thickness was REALLY thin - something I've also not seen in most other blanks I've owned or worked with, especially down low on the blank, near the handle area.

Could have been a one-off event, and can't really bad-mouth rods that have become best sellers, but it does give me pause regarding picking one up myself. I do like everything else about them though, so there's that . . .

As an aside, recently I'm all about shorter rod lengths - between my 5'8" 300gram Jigging World Ghost Hunter I like for tog and especially my new 5'6" Palmarius Wakizashi fluke jigger, I have a tough time switching to longer rods after using the shorties on any particular trip. Just so very nice in the hand. So, a 5' spinner that can perform on the offshore fluke grounds? Why not? 8-)
 
That looks to be a very cool little stick. I've always like the Dark Matter "Skinner" fluke rods and think their slightly slower taper is ideal for minimizing hook pulls on those head-shaking larger fluke. And they do handle the heavier jig and sinker weights that we commonly use offshore.

However, this weekend one of my dock mates brought over a fairly new SkinneR fluke rod that broke right at the foregrip. Snapped clean off. I've seen a lot of broken graphite rods over the years, but never one that broke in that location. On top of that, the blank's wall thickness was REALLY thin - something I've also not seen in most other blanks I've owned or worked with.

Could have been a one-off event, and can't really bad-mouth rods that have become best sellers, but it does give me pause regarding picking one up myself. I do like everything else about them though, so there's that . . .

As an aside, recently I'm all about shorter rod lengths - between my 5'8" 300gram Jigging World Ghost Hunter I like for tog and especially my new 5'6" Palmarius Wakizashi fluke jigger, I have a tough time switching to longer rods after using the shorties on any particular trip. Just so very nice in the hand. So, a 5' spinner that can perform on the offshore fluke grounds? Why not? 8-)
You've seen enough quality blanks to know what an inferior one looks like. Thin walled blanks don't survive very long if fished hard.........just sayin.
 
That looks to be a very cool little stick. I've always like the Dark Matter "Skinner" fluke rods and think their slightly slower taper is ideal for minimizing hook pulls on those head-shaking larger fluke. And they do handle the heavier jig and sinker weights that we commonly use offshore.

However, this weekend one of my dock mates brought over a fairly new SkinneR fluke rod that broke right at the foregrip. Snapped clean off. I've seen a lot of broken graphite rods over the years, but never one that broke in that location. On top of that, the blank's wall thickness was REALLY thin - something I've also not seen in most other blanks I've owned or worked with.

Could have been a one-off event, and can't really bad-mouth rods that have become best sellers, but it does give me pause regarding picking one up myself. I do like everything else about them though, so there's that . . .

As an aside, recently I'm all about shorter rod lengths - between my 5'8" 300gram Jigging World Ghost Hunter I like for tog and especially my new 5'6" Palmarius Wakizashi fluke jigger, I have a tough time switching to longer rods after using the shorties on any particular trip. Just so very nice in the hand. So, a 5' spinner that can perform on the offshore fluke grounds? Why not? 8-)
Do you notice a difference in how you fish the SPJ, Palmarius Wakizashi...as opposed to the Palmarius's we picked up about 2-3 years ago now? I've realized you really can't do that rapid jigging for fluke like we see/do a lot. When I swing up hard to set the hook I feel like I lose a lot of fish. It needs to be a soft upward pull as the tip is super soft. Hope I explained it right.
 
Do you notice a difference in how you fish the SPJ, Palmarius Wakizashi...as opposed to the Palmarius's we picked up about 2-3 years ago now? I've realized you really can't do that rapid jigging for fluke like we see/do a lot. When I swing up hard to set the hook I feel like I lose a lot of fish. It needs to be a soft upward pull as the tip is super soft. Hope I explained it right.
Matt, I don't quite understand what you mean by rapid jigging not being possible with the Waki. I do it all the time with my Waki #2, in fact its actually easier on my old wrist with the shorter rod length.

As far as swinging hard on a fluke bite, I never do that - unlike a certain Captain we both know that swings so hard his feet just about leave the deck. 8-)

I just use a sharp upward jerk of the tip - if your hooks are sharp enough (and they should be), that's more than sufficient to set the hook in a fluke. Tog are another story, but certainly the mouth of a fluke, even a larger specimen, is nowhere near as tough as a tog's. I feel that an over-enthusiastic swing moves the bait too far from that fish for a second shot at him/her/(they!) :rolleyes:

Just my thinking, your results may vary.
 
Matt, I don't quite understand what you mean by rapid jigging not being possible with the Waki. I do it all the time with my Waki #2, in fact its actually easier on my old wrist with the shorter rod length.

As far as swinging hard on a fluke bite, I never do that - unlike a certain Captain we both know that swings so hard his feet just about leave the deck. 8-)

I just use a sharp upward jerk of the tip - if your hooks are sharp enough (and they should be), that's more than sufficient to set the hook in a fluke. Tog are another story, but certainly the mouth of a fluke, even a larger version, is nowhere near as tough as a tog's. I feel that an over-enthusiastic swing moves the bait too far from that fish for a second shot at him/her/(they!) :rolleyes:

Just my thinking, your results may vary.
I see what your saying. I noticed at times when I swing up with my rod Palmarius Model 0 that I'm not setting the hook as well as say my BlackHole. Maybe I need to go sharp upward and short as opposed to swinging for the fences.
 
Well, it IS only a "0" Power. Not much beef to call on for a power hook-set. In this case I guess I would swing harder than I normally would.
 

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