Safety certification

[Snapprhead27]

Over the last couple of years, I have to admit the DMV has become the friendliest face of government there is.

They have become a relative pleasure to deal with. Maybe my opinion is colored by dealing with them in the '70s when they were a typical bureaucratic monolith and a trip into the bowels of hell to do the most ordinary thing.

I remember the counters were four feet high and four feet deep and if they were honest, they'd admit that was to keep the clientele from being able to reach their throats on the first lunge. When you're building infrastructure based on that idea, something's wrong.

Someone apparently got the memo, and after one of my recent visits I suggested they send someone over to the court system to teach them how to treat the jury pool.

Agreed.. couple years ago I made an appt at the Hauppauge one to renew my license and the wife's. We were in and out in about 15 mins. I remember going as a kid with my parents and it was a nightmare!!! Long snaked lines and sitting on the bench for what seemed like forever!

 

[Pangaroo]

I remember in 1985 when a Big Sea Ray boat raced under the Loop Bridge in the West End and rammed a boat with 2 guys from Ireland onboard and killed them. That's why there's a 5 MPH speed limit under bridges. Should've had this course years ago for every new boater. Don't mind taking the course, just worry they'll raise the price sky high. Been on the water over 60 years and safely navigated thru Jones Inlet at least 500 times.

 

[OVERBORED]

Water rescue 101

 

[Hunter704]

My cards came in the mail today, they send you two cards

 

[WhatKnot]

No boat anymore but you never know what may be down the road. I’l stick with my 1977 US Coast Auxiliary Safe Boating Certificate. I’ll scan it and add to my phone.

 

[pequa1]

Mine is on my phone too, and aside from the date it is identical to the one just above. Seeing some of the asshats on the other yaks, I wish they would mandate the course for SUPs, rowboats, kayaks and canoes !

 

[Hunter704]

Mine is on my phone too, and aside from the date it is identical to the one just above. Seeing some of the asshats on the other yaks, I wish they would mandate the course for SUPs, rowboats, kayaks and canoes !

I was under the impression it was any type of water craft.

 

[pequa1]

I was under the impression it was any type of water craft.

Unfortunately only motorized

 

[OVERBORED]

Jet skis included!

 

[pequa1]

I should hope so, lol ! Sailboats if a kicker too.

 

[Avenger]

Jet skis included!

Jet Skis have had that requirement for a long time now.

Hasn't stopped them from being @-holes, has it?

 

[poorrichard]

Any Motorized vessel
Includes battery powered kayaks

 

[pequa1]

Only batteries on mine are in my hearing aids. I don’t even believe in those “bicycle” yaks.

 

[Roccus7]

Jet Skis have had that requirement for a long time now.

Hasn't stopped them from being @-holes, has it?

Isn't that an owner requirement like folks who drive a certain imported car from Bavaria?

 

[Avenger]

Isn't that an owner requirement like folks who drive a certain imported car from Bavaria?

Yeah, I think you have to fail a empathy test in order to buy one.

 

[george]

This is all about the money folks. It will be $25 a year before you know it to cover more personell and a few more boats to help with enforcement.

As @Avenger mentioned, jets skiers have had this in place for years. In 2005 when the law was required there were 18 deaths. Last year was the same exact number.

 

[pequa1]

Perhaps it would have been even higher ? We'll never know for sure. Just like vaxxed and unvaxxed with the China Virus.

 

[Avenger]

This is all about the money folks. It will be $25 a year before you know it to cover more personell and a few more boats to help with enforcement.

As @Avenger mentioned, jets skiers have had this in place for years. In 2005 when the law was required there were 18 deaths. Last year was the same exact number.

Thank you!

Babylon has already started the grift, per my other thread.

People think I'm a d-bag for describing it as a dead-kid's-name law, and talk about what a great idea it is. But government will never resist an opportunity for growth, power and control. More taxes, more revenue, more political favors and people on the payroll.

But, but, but,... muh intentions?!?! It feels SO GOOD.

That's the feeling of your freedom disappearing. Believe me, the warm fuzzy doesn't last long and it's quickly replaced with a lot of buyer's remorse. Good luck going back with your receipt for a refund.

 

[Matts]

Anyone looking for a course to take, I recommend (second hand) the US Boating free course. I'm not sure why, but I opted for the Power Squadron course. I did learn something new about night time lighting for sailboats and tow vessels.
Apologies for anyone in their local Power Squadron, but don't take their course if your goal is the NY certificate. The course is full of irrelevant information and the site does not operate properly.

For example, to pass a section, you need to pass a quiz or retake the section. But many of the questions are not covered or the answers do not correspond. For example, the course section recommended a tongue weight of 7-10% of the boat plus trailer. The multiple choice options included 5-7 and 10-15, not 7-10. The internet says 10-15. But the accepted answer was 5-7%
I had to retake a section even after passing the quiz.
The last straw was not being able to take the final exam even after passing all the quizzes.
They still have not gotten back to me.

I would say only 10-20% of the course might make someone a safer boater, but that information will become lost in information about, e.g., the difference between a ketch and a sloop or naming the different parts of a clove hitch.

 

[pequa1]

Although I did take a course online a few years ago (USCG) most of the courses I have taken were in person, the absolute best was the USCGA course I took in 1977 at a local high school. I think it was 8 or ten Thursday nights (?) the most useless was by the NCPD at what is or was their academy in North Massapequa. It was back when kids needed the course for PWC and before Brianna was killed, and although half or more of the audience were adults, it was really dumbed down. A waste of a couple of March weekends. I recall years ago that the Power Squadron courses were mostly an advertisement to join the Power Squadron, constantly being put out there, lol.