The COVID-19 Science and Medicine Question Thread

Some interesting data starting to come out specifically addressing the high incidence of infection and death in the Black comminities.

To explain in english, every ethnic group has HLA antibodies that are specific and prevalent in that group. For Blacks, the specific HLA antibody is B53.

Seems B53 was very common in those who had bad to fatal experiences.

So those of you who feel you were exposed but didnt get sick, chances are you had the wrong (or right depending on how you look at it) antibodies that triggered the fatal immune response.

More and more data is coming out INCLUDING the Moderna vs Pfizer debate

and

Hopefully more on the booster shot. Saw CVS offering Moderna booster shots but it hasnt yet been approved. Pfizer has has been approved for booster.
 
mRNA technology has proven to be a big success HOWEVER Im very leary of dismissing the "old" technology in favor of the new kid. Still a place for "live" vaccines especially in children.

Is this a business decision? of course it is!

Will it sustain its effectiveness in the longer term? That remains to be seen. Right now, there is no argument. IMHO, Its effectiveness outweighs the potential negatives.
 
Please take your thoughtful "COVID Party Invitation" to the other COVID thread where it belongs...
 
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interesting read - your mileage may vary

Typical limited prose from folks who can’t see the forest from the trees. YES mRNA is a powerful new tool, but like every tool there’s a right and wrong time to use it. Linear, non-conformation Ab targets, like the COVID spike protein has, are great mRNA use. For complex, confirmational, and/or membrane-bound protein targets, mRNA will have short comings. Break out the attenuated virus vaccines!!
 
Please take your thoughtful "COVID Party Invitation" to the other COVID thread where it belongs...
Belongs where ever I chose to put it
You chose to delete it I guess that’s fine

but I’ll put things where I please


And I’ll edit what doesn’t belong in this thread.
 
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- According to the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, a study of 45 men showed that Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines appear safe for the male reproductive system - The study looked at sperm characteristics, like quantity and movement, before and after vaccination, and researchers found no significant changes after the vaccine, the CDC said.

We test just 45 men and from that, we determine that they "appear safe" If I were concerned about that I probably wouldn't have taken the jab.

My 29-year-old pointed this out to me. He and most people of childbearing age need more assurances than just "appear safe." And the truth is only time will tell. right?

It's like the year they made 27 intercepts to determine the recreational catch of porgies!

One more thing. I've been reading about aborted fetal cell lines that are used in the development of the vaccines. Granted they come from abortions that occurred in the Netherlands in the '70s and '80s. So when my son says "it has aborted cell lines it" he's right. I guess?
 
- According to the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, a study of 45 men showed that Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines appear safe for the male reproductive system - The study looked at sperm characteristics, like quantity and movement, before and after vaccination, and researchers found no significant changes after the vaccine, the CDC said.

We test just 45 men and from that, we determine that they "appear safe" If I were concerned about that I probably wouldn't have taken the jab.

My 29-year-old pointed this out to me. He and most people of childbearing age need more assurances than just "appear safe." And the truth is only time will tell. right?

It's like the year they made 27 intercepts to determine the recreational catch of porgies!

One more thing. I've been reading about aborted fetal cell lines that are used in the development of the vaccines. Granted they come from abortions that occurred in the Netherlands in the '70s and '80s. So when my son says "it has aborted cell lines it" he's right. I guess?
George: The mRNA vaccines do NOT have any fetal materials in them. The nanoparticles that contain the mRNA, and the mRNA itself, are both synthesized. These vaccines contain NO cellular materials.

I can't speak for the J&J vaccine or the AstraZeneca ones, as I'm not sure about the lineage of the cells used
 
The UM study seems to be more PR than science. 45 healthy males ages 18-35? Not a big sample size. Also, no longitudinal followup but it may allay fears of hampering fertility

As far as fetal material being used, it was used in testing and is not in the actual vaccine.
 
I always get a kick out of the many reasons people are apprehensive about getting the vaccine. Some are reasonable but most are far fetched assumptions that are not based on fact just heresay.

Once again, when considering taking ANY drug, its about RISK vs BENEFIT.
 
NY Post.......really?

Agreed, also my first reaction - BUT since the science jury is still out on origins, I let that post stay with the idea that any additional opinions on that will be nuked so you're all on notice.
 
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First time I've seen the different booster doses, along with children vaccine dose...

FDA leans toward authorizing Moderna booster at a half dose​

pressherald.com/2021/09/29/fda-leans-toward-authorizing-moderna-booster-at-a-half-dose/

By Josh Wingrove and Jennifer Jacobs September 29, 2021
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is leaning toward authorizing half-dose booster shots of the Moderna Inc. coronavirus vaccine, satisfied that it’s effective in shoring up protection, people familiar with the matter said.

The authorization would set the stage to further widen the U.S. booster campaign after earlier authorization of the Pfizer Inc.-BioNTech shot. About 170 million fully vaccinated people in the U.S. received the Moderna or Pfizer shots, or 92 percent of the total inoculated so far.

The people spoke on the condition of anonymity, before a potential announcement. It’s not clear when an announcement will come.

Any authorization would also introduce different dosage levels for boosters. Moderna’s initial inoculations contained 100-microgram doses, and the company’s submission to regulators amounted to a push to authorize a half-dose booster.

Pfizer’s shot, for comparison, has 30-microgram initial doses and a 30-microgram booster. Boosters are so far being given with, or planned for, the same vaccine that a person received initially, though studies are ongoing about whether to mix vaccines.

Proceeding with a 50-microgram dose could reduce the risk of side effects from a booster, and would also allow Moderna to produce more doses globally in the near term. That would ease supply constraints and potentially blunt criticisms of rich countries beginning sprawling booster campaigns before many nations have given widespread first shots.

Moderna declined to comment on Tuesday night. The White House and the FDA declined to comment.
The U.S. is rolling out boosters to head off what President Biden’s health advisers warn are a pair of concerning trends: Hints that vaccine efficacy wanes over months, and that the two-dose regimens are weaker generally against the delta variant than against other iterations of the virus.

The U.S. has dealt with a summer and fall wave of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths, driven by spread among unvaccinated people but increasing the exposure risk for the vaccinated.

The booster campaign was widely expanded late last week when Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky overruled an advisory panel to broaden eligibility for Pfizer’s booster shots. The World Health Organization has called for a moratorium on boosters this year, a request the U.S. has disregarded.

As of now, only people who received Pfizer shots are eligible for a booster in the U.S. “We will continue to evaluate data as it becomes available in real time and with urgency, and update our recommendations to make sure that all of those at risk have the protection they need,” Walensky said Tuesday.

The U.S. has donated about 160 million shots abroad, and the vast majority were surplus domestic supply from Moderna. Biden has also announced deals for a total of 1 billion Pfizer shots bought specifically for donation. Those began shipping in August and will be delivered by September 2022.

The FDA had been seeking information about the effectiveness of a full third dose of the Moderna vaccine, but is now ready to move forward and consider the half-dose booster Moderna has proposed, the people said.

Biden, who got his Pfizer booster on Monday, has said this remains a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has said he believes Pfizer and Moderna will eventually be considered three-dose vaccines.

As the vaccination campaign widens, sites that administer them will have to juggle different versions. In addition to Moderna potentially adding a half-dose booster, Pfizer is seeking authorization of a vaccine for children ages 5 to 11, with a 10-microgram dose – one-third the strength given to those 12 and up.
Fauci has indicated that there’ll be progress soon on booster shots for Moderna as well as Johnson & Johnson’s one-dose vaccine. “I believe it will be weeks and not months,” he told NBC’s “Meet the Press” earlier this month.
 
A study coming out in the British medical journal "Lancet" shows REMDESIVIR to be of little or no value in preventing death in hospitalized patients.

The study followed 857 patients.

On less tool that the Unvaccinated have at their disposal..........GET VACCINATED!
 
A study coming out in the British medical journal "Lancet" shows REMDESIVIR to be of little or no value in preventing death in hospitalized patients.

The study followed 857 patients.

On less tool that the Unvaccinated have at their disposal..........GET VACCINATED!
In my patent law experience, everything from Gilead is suspect.
 
In my experience, once the "cytokine storm" hits a patient, there is very little clinicians can do to reverse things. You are at Nature's and biology's mercy. That would be considered stage 4 or so of Covid progression.

Majority of infection in vaccinated people never gets passed stage 1.
 
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