Long Island and the Civil War

Highly recommend this book, points out the extremely poor initial response of the US Atlantic fleet to the U-boat threat. The sub commanders stayed offshore during the day and then snuck up close to cities like NY to see targets silhouetted by the bright city lights, we didn't believe in blackouts.

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Torpedo Junction: U-Boat War Off America's East Coast, 1942 (Bluejacket Books)

If lines were to be drawn on a map from Cape Race, Newfoundland, down the east coast of the North American continent and into the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean, they would coincide with perhaps the most congested sea lanes in the world. When the United States entered World War II, the industrial cities of the eastern seaboard were particularly vulnerable to the disruption of these lanes. Fuel was required to keep those cities from freezing during the winter, and most of that fuel was provided by ships hauling it from Curaçao and Aruba in the Netherlands West Indies, from Venezuelan oil fields, and from the Gulf of Mexico ports of Corpus Christi, Houston, and Port Arthur, Texas. The United States military was also vulnerable. The oil reserves of the United States were simply not large enough to meet the sustained, high demands of world conflict. To cut her supply lines along the Atlantic coast and to the south would be, in effect, to defeat the United States, to freeze much of her population, and force her out of the war. In January 1942, five German Type IX U-boats set forth to accomplish all that.
 
Sharks? World War II bombs also are a beach peril


If a spate of shark attacks this summer isn't enough to keep you out of the water, here's another peril to worry about at the beach: unexploded bombs.


Yes, a World War II-era shell forced beachgoers on the Gulf Coast near Tampa to evacuate the sands Sunday morning before the barnacle-covered bomb was detonated in a controlled explosion later in the day.


The good news: No one was hurt.


The bad: This happens much more frequently than you might think.


The reason? Millions of unused bombs, also known as unexploded ordnance or UXO, lie in the waters off the U.S. coast, dumped there by the military before the practice was banned in 1970 by the Pentagon, a move locked into law by the Marine Protection, Research and Sanctuaries Act in 1972.


Many of the UXOs are from World War II. After the war, when defense companies pumped out millions of bombs, shells and other explosive devices, the Defense Department found itself with a huge excess of munitions, which it then dumped onto the seafloor, usually more than 50 miles offshore. The practice continued with ordnance from the Korean and Vietnam wars until the 1970 ban.
 
I have a beautiful artist painting of the Battle of the Atlantic off NYC, Long Island. Beautiful picture of a U Boat on the surface shelling a Freightor and the Freightor is all ablaze. In the background the lights of NYC shine . It was painted by Lukas Wirp. He paints Miltary stuff. It was signed by German U Boat commander Reinhardt Hardegan who sank the Coimbra off Shinnecock and the Norness off Montauk. He's on You Tube and you can see the painting there. Paid about $110 and it was shipped from Germany.The artist was a Great guy , I chatted with him online and was very nice.
 
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View attachment 30611 Been reading a few pages every night. Some interesting stuff in there.
I'm looking around to buy that book. Maybe on Amazon. You pick up a few facts here and there from each book . another great read , subscribe to the NY times to read their archives, you can get the Daily newspapers they published during the WW2 years. all online . I love reading the Times from January 1942- June 1942. everyday there were stories about the U boat War off NY. I saw the frontpage story about the Coimbra sinking off LI. Nice picture of it sinking . An Army Air force Bomber took off from Mitchell field in Garden City and flew out to the Coimbra to photograph it and search for survivors. Never saw it in any Skin Diver book.
 
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The Destroyer USS Murphy sank about 50 miles out from Jones inlet. It was escorting a convoy and one of the ships sliced right thru the Murphy and 36 sailors and officers died. I think it was in 1943.
 
I'm looking around to buy that book. Maybe on Amazon. You pick up a few facts here and there from each book . another great read , subscribe to the NY times to read their archives, you can get the Daily newspapers they published during the WW2 years. all online . I love reading the Times from January 1942- June 1942. everyday there were stories about the U boat War off NY. I saw the frontpage story about the Coimbra sinking off LI. Nice picture of it sinking . An Army Air force Bomber took off from Mitchell field in Garden City and flew out to the Coimbra to photograph it and search for survivors. Never saw it in any Skin Diver book.
Found it on amazon for $3.99. It has a section on the World Wars. I'll read part of it on Amazon.
 
Highly recommend this book, points out the extremely poor initial response of the US Atlantic fleet to the U-boat threat. The sub commanders stayed offshore during the day and then snuck up close to cities like NY to see targets silhouetted by the bright city lights, we didn't believe in blackouts.

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Torpedo Junction: U-Boat War Off America's East Coast, 1942 (Bluejacket Books)

If lines were to be drawn on a map from Cape Race, Newfoundland, down the east coast of the North American continent and into the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean, they would coincide with perhaps the most congested sea lanes in the world. When the United States entered World War II, the industrial cities of the eastern seaboard were particularly vulnerable to the disruption of these lanes. Fuel was required to keep those cities from freezing during the winter, and most of that fuel was provided by ships hauling it from Curaçao and Aruba in the Netherlands West Indies, from Venezuelan oil fields, and from the Gulf of Mexico ports of Corpus Christi, Houston, and Port Arthur, Texas. The United States military was also vulnerable. The oil reserves of the United States were simply not large enough to meet the sustained, high demands of world conflict. To cut her supply lines along the Atlantic coast and to the south would be, in effect, to defeat the United States, to freeze much of her population, and force her out of the war. In January 1942, five German Type IX U-boats set forth to accomplish all that.
Isn't it crazy they never made a movie about the U boat War off the East Coast ? They made 3 movies about Amy Fisher and never a movie about this . Das Boot was Europe.
 
The USS Atherton was credited with sinking the U853 in 1945. That ship remained in service for the next 75 years and a couple of years ago it was retired by the Philippine Navy and made into a Museum.
 
The Navy and Coast Guard "commandeered" yachts during WW2 to act as sub chasers and spotters.
Ernest Borgnine served on one of those Yachts that patrolled the Atlantic .The Yacht he was on was taken from the inventor of the Murphy Bed. What a great life that guy had. 10 years in the Navy and a 62 year acting career.
 


I fished from the Hudson to Lydonia. The Hudson at times can light up like you can't imagine.
Middle Grounds and Block can be very productive. Found more Mahi there than anyplace else.
Couldn't tell you why. If you're into overnighters. Fishtails and Bigeye highway would be my suggestion.
The Atlantis is excellent. In my opinion and from my experience Hydrographers is the cream of the crop.
Words can't explain. Upwelling, where the Labrador Current meets the Gulf Stream at the canyon.
NUTRIENT ENRICHED - LIFE ! ! ! Veatches huh

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