Coronavirus
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TonySmjc
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So if I’ve been in contact close prolonged contact
Wait the 4 to 5 days on each occasion
Then get both the rapid and pcr test
Your saying that means nothing
I call bs
If what you say is true testing is useless and beyond a waste of money
can’t have it all ways
It’s either very contagious or
It’s not
Testing is valuable and accurate or it’s not
your talking in circles dom
Nope, just stating the facts. If you're really concerned about if you've been infected after close contact, then forget the rapid tests, be they PCR or Antigen, they're only effective for symptomatic cases; that's what their EUA says. I understand many neglect that fact and use these rapid tests to clear people for entry to venues, go to work, etc.
You need the overnight, sent-out PCR test to detect asymptomatic infections, and have it run 4-5 days after the contact, as you've done.
Glad you've had a streak of good luck and hope it continues, but the new variants may put an end to that streak.
True, but just about everyone of us, except those who are of 100% African descent, have a pretty respectable amount of Neanderthal DNA in our genome. Neanderthal and Homo sapiens did interbreed for a significant amount of time...
dsedy
Well-Known Angler
For all the noise made over Covid-19, many people might be surprised to find out that it was not the leading cause of death in the U.S. in 2020. It came in third, behind heart disease and cancer, according to a new CDC study. COVID-19 was listed as the underlying cause of 345,323 deaths during 2020 and was the third leading underlying cause of death, after heart disease (690,882 deaths) and cancer (598,932) That is reality in a nutshell.
dsedy
Well-Known Angler
This data kinda puts into focus how warped we have become by the fear-mongering fostered upon us. it is difficult to argue with this data. It was lifted from the Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 | MMWR report.
Total deaths in America in 2020, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) came in at 2,913,144. Considering that there were 2,845,793 deaths in 2019 and 2,831,836 deaths in 2018, this is not surprising. If you ballpark America's population at 333 million, 1% of that number is 3.3 million people. While many people find it distressing, the fact is people die.
Total deaths in America in 2020, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) came in at 2,913,144. Considering that there were 2,845,793 deaths in 2019 and 2,831,836 deaths in 2018, this is not surprising. If you ballpark America's population at 333 million, 1% of that number is 3.3 million people. While many people find it distressing, the fact is people die.
JackPrintMD
Well-Known Angler
Yup... but at least they got what they wanted.
dsedy
Well-Known Angler
Kary Mullis, Inventor of the PCR test. and how they never were made for this application. The PCR test are all BS.
PCR Inventor Kary Mullis Says Anthony Fauci — “doesn’t know anything” (dryburgh.com)
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You do realize that most of the article is talking about HIV tests, and not even PCR tests. There is no Western Blot confirmatory test for PCR. I'd say the author of this paper "doesn't know anything", just picking quotes from different interviews/texts from Fauci and Mullis, and sticking them together to make up quite a tall tale...
Oh, BTW, the author couldn't tell a DNA sequence form an RNA one. Here's his "expertise", but his blog is recommended by that science great, Bill O'Reilly...
Lee S. Dryburgh is a person-to-person communications technologist. He is both an engineering doctoral candidate at UCL (with sponsorship from Cisco) and a part-time SS7 (including Sigtran/Camel/Map) consulting engineer via his company 'SS7.net'. He has performed work for numerous operators including British Telecom, O2, Sprint, T-Mobile, Orange, Verisign, Hutchinson 3G, as well as vendors including Marconi, Nokia, Alcatel, Lucent, Nortel, and Cisco. He is an acknowledged expert in the telecommunication protocol suite, Signaling System #7 (SS7/C7), and lead-authored the bestselling book on the topic. His research focus is the future of telephony and in particular enabling conversation between relevant strangers.
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dsedy
Well-Known Angler
Dom---please...the PCR test is BS and you must know it as a Virologist. Or you choose not to. 40x amplification will yield dead viral load of everything. Fraudski is on record as saying as much.
Whatever...doesn't really matter because the marketing rebranding for the flu has worked....e.g Patagonian DogTooth Fish is now 'Chilean Sea Bass'.... in reverse.....
If PCR is BS, I guess my retirement is BS too...
dsedy
Well-Known Angler
I’m sure not at all Dom. I’m sure you spent 30-40 years doing well and the right thing; morally and as a scientist. I believe this from reading your stories on here and NE over the past 15 years; (that long?) a blend of fishing and poetry wrapped, at times, in a riddle. ? very entertaining, and thought provoking.
thing is, powers that be change things. Good men sometimes can’t see the forest for the trees. I only see it because I have a young kid. And I am scared for her.
The honest answer is "Who knows?", as the virus is driving this. We're locked in a struggle between the medical impact from a fat/protein membrane surrounding a string of RNA, and the different methods of mitigation of this "blob's" impact on life as we once knew it.
For points of reference:
- It was believed that 75 - 200 MM folks died from the Bubonic Plague, at a time the world population was ~ 450 MM, so we're talking 38 - 44% fatality rate.
- The Spanish Flu killed ~ 50 MM folks, in a world population of ~ 1.8 billion, ~ 2.7% fatality rate.
- To date, COVID-19 has killed ~ 3 MM people, in a world population of ~ 7.8 billion, ~ 3.8% fatality rate.
The Spanish Flu was a true monster, but being a flu, there was the "respite" common to all flus, the seasonal lull that summer months provided, so it burned itself out relatively quickly. But there's this COVID-19 thing, which doesn't have the seasonal variability, and it's till running amok in most of the world, with a fatality rate a hair more than the Spanish Flu even with all the medical and societal interventions.
The vaccines are showing great promise, as evidenced from the current data. Since the US rolled vaccines out in an order fashion from older folks first and first responders, and then in steps based on age and medical conditions, there is a nice comparison baseline. As of today the percent of new infections in the older population has dropped; they are no longer the segment of the population with the highest percentage of new infections. Now the 20 - 29 year olds, a group with fewer vaccine recipients due to the roll out, make up the majority of new infections
IMO, it comes down to the moral dilemma that everyone has three or four opinions about, but no one likes the ramifications of: "How do we balance the value of human life against the value of a vibrant, thriving society?"
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movetheboat
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U.S. Will Pause Use of J&J Vaccine After Rare Complications
Published 4 mins ago • Updated 9 seconds ago
U.S. Will Pause Use of J&J Vaccine After Rare Complications6 people
Just logged on to report this, but you beat me to it Gene, thanks.
Disturbing occurrence, not because there is the issue, but the fact that other countries saw the issue, paused distribution, and then restarted. Obviously the US didn't carefully examine/heed those data, because it seems to be happening here.
Regrettably, this may become the "Poster Child" for those that felt the vaccines may have been too rushed, and I can't say I'd blame them. IF the incidence of these clots is significantly higher for this same adverse effect in either the Moderna and/or Pfizer vaccine, the endless enigma of "what level of adverse events is acceptable" will raise its ugly head. The continued robust supply chain of the two mRNA vaccines makes this discussion more stringent, in that J&J is NOT the only game in town...
movetheboat
Well-Known Angler
6 PEOPLE FROM 7 MILLION VACCINATED.....they want to ensure if that is the true number or whether or not there are milder clots unreported.
Everyone is different...everything we take or do is not 100% safe...you have to weigh risk and reward. Going out on the water is riskier percentage wise than this
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