Where is this going?

[george]

Here's a rendition from the company of the staging area for development of the winds fans - or blow job as I like calling it . Where is this going? I've heard Pt. Jefferson may be a good place. I wonder how the people living there feel about it.

 

[captmike28]

They just "broke ground" in Wainscot for the substation in East Hampton township last Friday. So, I would guess this is going to be the staging area for the Orsted/Coxes ledge, debacle about to begin. It seems like way to large an operation for Montauk harbor. Geographically speaking, Point Judith, RI is actually closer to the site of the proposed Windmills. Whoever "wins" this project will wind up losing in some manner.

 

[Roccus7]

Yes, logically the staging would probably be in CT, New Haven or New London, or RI, Pt Judith, to be closer to the "action". Not sure if the inlet at Port Jeff could handle the larger ship traffic either, while New London certainly could.

 

[george]

Yes, logically the staging would probably be in CT, New Haven or New London, or RI, Pt Judith, to be closer to the "action". Not sure if the inlet at Port Jeff could handle the larger ship traffic either, while New London certainly could.

I tried to get these companies on a podcast but so far no good. I'm guessing even though it's close to the shores of northern states NY has to be the first. There is so much BS surrounding it that it. They have $500 mil to spend and they're eager to go.

There is so much we don't know. I did a quick google search to find that most of the companies installing these also build oil rigs.

How about the BS that they are going to drop these huge cement blocks with sensors to see if the radio waves given off by the cable will change fish patterns. It truly is laughable. They are going to tag 125 fish a year and follow their patterns with the sensors! I'm not an oddsmaker but the thought that they might even get one fish to pass them is a reach. I did run a tourney that involved hundreds of tagged fish and few were ever seen again.

The point being missed here is that they have no clue what this will do with patterns. Couldn't such a test be done before putting them in the ground? Does anyone think that is it shows that it is changing fish migrations that you and I will ever find out it? Will, they then disconnect it? I don't. But I guarantee you, even if just one fish passes their sensors, they will extrapolate numbers to show how everything is just dandy.

The other issue with it is they want to drop them in the center of fertile squid towing grounds. Commercials aren't happy about it at all. Recs shouldn't be either as there's a good chance we won't be able to fish around them for fear of us catching one of their tagged fish. (You have a better chance of bringing John Lennon back from the dead) This is another example of how nothing here is being thought through. It's all about being the first to pull the switch.

That rendition above looks like a monstrosity and I sure hope it doesn't end up in the LI Sound. I was told the Sound was the safest and best route for them to take. So what they can get there much quicker and safer leaving RI, but then they would be first.

We will eventually find out how many and where these staging areas will be built. I'll bet you they won't be built in the Hamptons.

 

[MakoMike]

They'll probably be staging out f New London, th state of CT has been pushing New London as the hub for all northeastern wind farm support/logistics.

 

[CaptFP]

The proposed Port Jeff staging area is for the Coxes project or a LIS project? It a long trip to Coxes from P.F.

 

[Old Mud]

I tried to get these companies on a podcast but so far no good. I'm guessing even though it's close to the shores of northern states NY has to be the first. There is so much BS surrounding it that it. They have $500 mil to spend and they're eager to go.

There is so much we don't know. I did a quick google search to find that most of the companies installing these also build oil rigs.

How about the BS that they are going to drop these huge cement blocks with sensors to see if the radio waves given off by the cable will change fish patterns. It truly is laughable. They are going to tag 125 fish a year and follow their patterns with the sensors! I'm not an oddsmaker but the thought that they might even get one fish to pass them is a reach. I did run a tourney that involved hundreds of tagged fish and few were ever seen again.





That rendition above looks like a monstrosity and I sure hope it doesn't end up in the LI Sound. I was told the Sound was the safest and best route for them to take. So what they can get there much quicker and safer leaving RI, but then they would be first.

We will eventually find out how many and where these staging areas will be built. I'll bet you they won't be built in the Hamptons.

George, as far as them tagging those 125 fish maybe they will be bunker. If they are than you will have no problem getting the tags back. We will help you out when they migrate we will catch em all up here. (Pogies). JK. I know your frustrations, you know you are dealing with people who probably don't fish right ? . Anyway hope you don't worry to about it to much, They will install them with or without you. I would rather see that be With you. Think Heart healthy.

 

[george]

They'll probably be staging out f New London, th state of CT has been pushing New London as the hub for all northeastern wind farm support/logistics.

I hope type right but everything I've heard from reliable sources says it will be in NY. New London makes too much sense.

 

[george]

George, as far as them tagging those 125 fish maybe they will be bunker. If they are than you will have no problem getting the tags back. We will help you out when they migrate we will catch em all up here. (Pogies). JK. I know your frustrations, you know you are dealing with people who probably don't fish right ? . Anyway hope you don't worry to about it to much, They will install them with or without you. I would rather see that be With you. Think Heart healthy.

Thanks Mud. It's hard to sit back and not do anything.

 

[Old Mud]

Thanks Mud. It's hard to sit back and not do anything.

I know it is but we don't need your name on a tombstone saying that.. Be safe my Friend.

 

[Roccus7]

All of our cables might be coming from MA...

Former site of New England’s largest coal plant to become offshore wind hub​

pressherald.com/2022/02/17/former-site-of-new-englands-largest-coal-plant-to-become-offshore-wind-hub/

By JENNIFER McDERMOTT February 18, 2022

The site of a former coal-fired power plant in Somerset will be transformed into the first offshore wind manufacturing facility in Massachusetts, the governor announced Thursday.

Gov. Charlie Baker and Lt. Gov. Karyn Polito visited the former Brayton Point power plant to celebrate the plans. The state’s last coal-fired power plant, Brayton Point, closed in 2017 as environmental groups pushed for cleaner sources of energy generation.

An Italian cable manufacturing company, Prysmian Group, finalized an agreement to acquire a 47-acre parcel at the site to make subsea transmission cables that will bring power generated by offshore wind to the electrical grid.

Baker said they are taking what was once an energy generator in a different era and bringing it into the next century.

“I think if we continue to play our cards well, we can make a very big investment in the Commonwealth and in this region going forward, and support a lot of activity in deep water up and down the Atlantic Coast,” he said.

The investment in Somerset was part of Avangrid Renewables’ successful bid to the state for a future offshore wind project off the coast of Massachusetts, south of Martha’s Vineyard. The Commonwealth Wind project was selected by Massachusetts in December to move forward to contract negotiations to provide 1,200 megawatts of power to the state in 2027. That’s enough to power about 750,000 homes annually.

Brayton Point had burned coal since 1963 as New England’s largest coal plant. It took just a matter of seconds for two 500-foot cooling towers to be brought down in 2019. They were believed to be the tallest such structures ever brought down in a controlled demolition at the time.

Prysmian Group is spending about $200 million on the new manufacturing facility. Avangrid and Prysmian Group said they chose the site because of its waterfront industrial location and acreage.
Also as part of the Commonwealth Wind project, the state’s second offshore wind port will be established in Salem Harbor.

A separate offshore wind project off the coast of Massachusetts, Vineyard Wind, is moving forward as the nation’s first commercial-scale offshore wind farm. The nearly $3 billion project is a critical part of the Biden administration’s plan to grow renewable energy in the U.S. It’s a joint venture of Avangrid Renewables and Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners.

 

[captmike28]

As if this nonsense was not enough, today I got a post card in the mail form a company called SUBCOM in Eatontown, NJ.

They are alerting all commercial fisherman that a new undersea communications cable is being installed from just south of Smith Point, NY to the edge of the continental shelf and then east across the Atlantic to UK and Sapin. Construction is due to take place form March 20 - April 20, 2022.

This is the first I have heard of this project!

 

[OVERBORED]

With satellite and WiFi communication we're STILL using undersea cables?

 

[Roccus7]

With satellite and WiFi communication we're STILL using undersea cables?

At least cables are not subject to the whims of solar storms, and a bit more secure than RF communications...

 

[OVERBORED]

Read a little about the undersea cables. They're a lot more important than I thought. Eye opener for me.

 

[george]

Read a little about the undersea cables. They're a lot more important than I thought. Eye opener for me.

Same here.

 

[wader]

With satellite and WiFi communication we're STILL using undersea cables?

Satellite & Wifi can easily be disrupted if not taken out by hostile players (i.e. China/Russia who have both demonstrted their abilities recently). Cables can be as well but I believe it's a little more difficult.

 

[george]

What surprised me was that this is a Google project. Also, This isn't the only one that connects us.