Do they think we're idiots!

I wish I had as much faith in the Gov't as you. I think they're full of shit. Again, why permit the killing of whales and then deny it's happening?

Are you OK that we keep killing them as we try to figure it out?

This is no coincidence. And why is it taking so long to get the necropsies?

This is a disaster, and while I like you as an angler and a person, I'm saddened that anyone that has spent time both inshore and offshore would be OK with what we are witnessing.

You probably don't realize it, but this is not political, this is real, and it's not fake news. Our once peaceful oceans will soon be a thing of the past. How can you, a rec fisherman be OK with the industrialization of our once temperate oceans? How can you believe the gov't when they tell you it's not them, it's just a coincidence? I just don't get it.

If you can, PLEASE FORGET THE FRIGGIN POLITICS and look at what's happening!

I'm guessing you've done that, and you're OK with killing these majestic creatures. Creatures that have been here long before you and me, yet there are that few like yourself that are OK with it. They trust that this is going to make everything better. But the fact is, it's going to make things worse. The truth is that they are dying at an alarming rate. MORE THAN EVER BEFORE IN HISTORY. EVER

As a recreational angler, you are the biggest threat to this movement. You're all wrapped up in politics. You're OK with the slaughter we're witnessing. You're okay with the fact that t Im confident if this were a conservative admin, you'd be saying just the opposite. You'd be blaming the right!

I wish I were as confident as you that the gov't was doing the right thing. Sorry, I think they're full of shit!
From the beginning I was appalled and not ok at all with the killing of the whales and no where did I say that. What I am appalled with is the willingness to jump to a conclusion based on no proof or evidence.

People on the site read things into what I post and then misconstrue it based on my well known politics (Democrat Conservative :). Shipping and the changing migratory patterns of mammals and baitfish could and probably are a factor. It could be a combination of both. It does seem to have slowed a lot since shipping has been put on notice?

As for the government report indicating the possibility of deaths due to the construction and operation of windmills, that is in no way them sanctioning or giving it a pass. It's bad enough that the energy project is causing ALL of this without us wishing it so. If the Necropsies go against the windmills causing this, no one here will believe it anyway.

People make up their minds pre-maturely on events in life and then only want feedback that supports that mindset. I see it all the time. I reserve the right to form an opinion based on data and evidence , which could very well be the windmills. This is what I believe is best and I am in no way trying to antagonize or be a contrarian to this subject. I have great respect for you as a person and what you did and do for the fishing/boating community. You are the last person I want to butt heads with :) I don't dismiss any comments on the subject that have been made. It's all possible.
 
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Takes of Marine Mammals Incidental to Specified Activities: Sunrise Wind Offshore Wind Farm Project Offshore New York​


Below are a few excerpts, amping with my observations that I've taken from another government document proving that they have approved the slaying of whales. The entire document can be found here


Summary​

NMFS has received a request from Sunrise Wind, LLC (Sunrise Wind), a 50/50 joint venture between Ørsted North America, Inc. (Ørsted) and Eversource Investment, LLC, for Incidental Take Regulations (ITR) and an associated Letter of Authorization (LOA) pursuant to the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA). The requested regulations would govern the authorization of take, by Level A harassment and/or Level B harassment, of small numbers of marine mammals over the course of 5 years (2023-2028) incidental to construction of the Sunrise Wind Offshore Wind Farm Project offshore of New York in a designated lease area on the Outer Continental Shelf (OCS-A-0487). Project activities likely to result in incidental take include pile driving (impact and vibratory), potential unexploded ordnance or munitions and explosives of concern (UXO/MEC) detonation, and vessel-based site assessment surveys using high-resolution geophysical (HRG) equipment. NMFS requests comments on this proposed rule. NMFS will consider public comments prior to making any final decision on the promulgation of the requested ITR and issuance of the LOA; agency responses to public comments will be summarized in the final rule, if issued. The proposed regulations, if adopted, would be effective November 20, 2023-November 19, 2028.


Establishing a seasonal moratorium on impact pile driving during the months of highest North Atlantic right whale ( Eubalaena glacialis) presence in the project area (January 1-April 30);

What about the rest of our whales? Does anyone believe that the Atlantic Right whale can survive this? This next one says it all. Notice how old the "most recent" studies are done.
Table 4—Marine Mammal Species Likely To Occur Near the Project Area That May Be Taken by Sunrise Wind's Activities
Common nameScientific nameStockESA/ MMPA status; strategic (Y/N) 1Stock abundance (CV, N min , most recent abundance survey)  2PBRAnnual M/SI  3
Order Artiodactyla—Cetacea—Superfamily Mysticeti (baleen whales)
Family Balaenidae:
North Atlantic right whaleEubalaena glacialisWestern AtlanticE, D, Y368 (0; 364; 2019)  50.77.7
Family Balaenopteridae (rorquals)
Blue whaleBalaenoptera musculusWestern North AtlanticE, D, YUNK (UNK; 402; 1980-2008)0.80
Fin whaleBalaenoptera physalusWestern North AtlanticE, D, Y6,802 (0.24; 5,573; 2016)111.8
Sei whaleBalaenoptera borealisNova ScotiaE, D, Y6,292 (1.02; 3,098; 2016)6.20.8
Minke whaleBalaenoptera acutorostrataCanadian Eastern Coastal-, -, N21,968 (0.31; 17,002; 2016)17010.6
Humpback whaleMegaptera novaeangliaeGulf of Maine-, -, Y1,396 (0; 1,380; 2016)2212.15
Superfamily Odontoceti (toothed whales, dolphins, and porpoises)
Family Physeteridae:
Sperm whalePhyseter macrocephalusNorth AtlanticE, D, Y4,349 (0.28; 3,451; 2016)3.90
Family Delphinidae
Atlantic white-sided dolphinLagenorhynchus acutusWestern North Atlantic-, -, N93,233 (0.71; 54,433; 2016)54427
Atlantic spotted dolphinStenella frontalisWestern North Atlantic-, -, N39,921 (0.27; 32,032; 2016)3200
Common bottlenose dolphinTursiops truncatusWestern North Atlantic Offshore-, -, N62,851 (0.23; 51,914; 2016)51928
Long-finned pilot whalesGlobicephala melasWestern North Atlantic-, -, N39,215 (0.3; 30,627; 2016)30629
Common dolphin (short-beaked)Delphinus delphisWestern North Atlantic-, -, N172,974 (0.21; 145,216; 2016)1,452390
Risso's dolphinGrampus griseusWestern North Atlantic-, -, N35,215 (0.19; 30,051; 2016)30134
Family Phocoenidae (porpoises):
Harbor porpoisePhocoenaGulf of Maine/Bay of Fundy-, -, N95,543 (0.31; 74,034; 2016)85116
Order Carnivora—Superfamily Pinnipedia
Family Phocidae (earless seals)
Gray seal  4Halichoerus grypusWestern North Atlantic-, -, N27,300 (0.22; 22,785; 2016)1,3894,453
Harbor sealPhoca vitulinaWestern North Atlantic-, -, N61,336 (0.08; 57,637; 2018)1,729339


I'd say the writing is on the wall. The North Atlantic right whale will soon be extinct. Very sad.

The North Atlantic right whale population had only a 2.8 percent recovery rate between 1990 and 2011 and an overall abundance decline of 23.5percent from 2011-2019 (Hayes et al. 2022). Since 2010, the North Atlantic right whale population has been in decline (Pace et al., 2017; Pace et al., 2021), with a 40 percent decrease in calving rate (Kraus et al., 2016; Moore et al., 2021). North Atlantic right whale calving rates dropped from 2017 to 2020 with zero births recorded during the 2017-2018 season. The 2020-2021 calving season had the first substantial calving increase in 5 years with 20 calves born followed by 15 calves during the 2021-2022 calving season. However, mortalities continue to outpace births, and best estimates indicate fewer than 100 reproductively active females remain in the population

This document is truly alarming.

The more you look the worse it gets . . .
 
and no mention at all about a "rogue" freighter from Iran plowing into them or Russian Spetsnaz (if the Ukraineans didn't kill them all off yet) cutting into the cables...
 
Too funny. Maine is trying to carve out 20 sq mi for an experimental array, and link it to existing power stations. DOD said try again, as Navy needed that area…
 
The recent deaths of seven whales off of the east coast, mostly humpbacks, got a lot of attention. The federal NOAA Fisheries Agency is responsible for whales. An outrageous statement by their spokesperson got me to do some research on humpback whale deaths.

The results are appalling. The evidence seems clear that offshore wind development is killing whales by the hundreds.

Here is the statement as reported in the press:

“NOAA said it has been studying what it calls “unusual mortality events” involving 174 humpback whales along the East Coast since January 2016. Agency spokesperson Lauren Gaches said that period pre-dates offshore wind preparation activities in the region.” Gaches is NOAA Fisheries press chief.

The “unusual mortality” data is astounding. Basically the humpback death rate roughly tripled starting in 2016 and continued high thereafter. You can see it here:

2016–2023 Humpback Whale Unusual Mortality Event Along the Atlantic Coast

But the claim that this huge jump in mortality predates offshore wind preparation activities is wildly false. In fact it coincides with the large scale onset of these activities. This strong correlation is strong evidence of causation, especially since no other possible cause has appeared.

To begin with, offshore lease sales really geared up 2015-16, with nine big sales off New Jersey, New York, Delaware and Massachusetts. These sales must have generated a lot of activity, likely including potentially damaging sonar.

In fact 2016 also saw the beginning of what are called geotechnical and site characterization surveys. These surveys are actually licensed by NOAA Fisheries, under what are called Incidental Harassment Authorizations or IHA’s.

There is some seriously misleading jargon here. IHA’s are incidental to some other activity, in this case offshore wind development. They are not incidental to the whales. In fact the term “harassment” specifically includes injuring the whales. That is called “level A harassment”.

To date NOAA has issued an astounding 46 one-year IHA’s for offshore wind sites. Site characterization typically includes the protracted use of what I call “machine gun sonar”. This shipboard device emits an incredibly loud noise several times a second, often for hours at a time, as the ship slowly maps the sea floor.

Mapping often takes many days to complete. A blaster can log hundreds of miles surveying a 10-by-10 mile site. Each IHA is typically for an entire year.

Here is a list of the IHA’s issued to date and those applied for:

Incidental Take Authorizations for Other Energy Activities (Renewable/LNG)

There are lots of ways this sonar blasting might cause whales to die. Simply fleeing the incredible noise could cause ship strikes or fish gear entanglements, the two leading causes of whale deaths. Of the whales could be deafened, increasing their chances of being struck by a ship later on. Direct bleeding injury, like getting their ears damaged, is another known risk, possibly leading to death from infection. So there can be a big time difference between blasting and death.

Note also that these deaths need not be in the immediate vicinity of the sonar blasting, so spatial correlation is unlikely. Humpbacks in particular are prodigious travelers. One group was tracked traveling 3,000 miles in just 28 days, over 100 miles a day on average. Another group routinely migrates 5,000 miles. Both are winter-summer migrations which can happen twice a year.

Thus a sonar blasting, site characterization in one place could easily lead to multiple whale deaths hundreds of miles away. If one of these blasters suddenly goes off near a group of whales they might go off in different directions, then slowly die.

The point is that the huge 2016 jump in annual humpback mortality coincides with the huge jump in NOAA Incidental Harassment Authorizations. It is that simple and surely NOAA Fisheries knows this.

Nor is this just about humpbacks. Some of the dead whales off New Jersey are endangered sperm whales. And of course there are the severely endangered North Atlantic Right Whales, on the verge of extinction.

Even worse, the IHA’s are about to make a much bigger jump. There are eleven pending IHA applications and eight of these are for actually constructing 8 different monster wind “farms”.

Driving the hundreds of enormous monopiles that hold up the turbine towers and blades will be far louder than the sonic blasters approved to date, especially with eight sites going at once. These construction sites range from Virginia to Massachusetts, with a concentration off New Jersey and New York.

For more on this noise see my https://www.cfact.org/2022/07/26/threat-to-endangered-whales-gets-louder/

Clearly we need a moratorium on new Incidental Harassment Authorizations until the safety of the whales and other marine species can be assured. Hundreds of whales may have already been killed by offshore wind activities. The evidence is right there.

Author​

 
I love whales as much as the next guy. I also love my fish finder, snow in the winter and the current shoreline configurations. This article, while sounding scientific, is nothing more than one man's guesswork. I don't see that it adds much to the conversation.

The author, who I am quite sure is not a marine biologist or whale anatomy expert, has not introduced any evidence other than coincidence. However, it seems that local whale and dolphin deaths have recently gone down from what they were just a few months ago, so what does that mean?

His assertions are also peppered with weasel words like "likely" and "potentially": "These sales must have generated a lot of activity, likely including potentially damaging sonar"
This is another way of saying that he has no idea when the sonic mapping started or whether the sonar is actually damaging or merely annoying to the whales.

"There are lots of ways this sonar blasting might cause whales to die." Or might not. Again, he has no idea.

"Simply fleeing the incredible noise could cause ship strikes or fish gear entanglements, the two leading causes of whale deaths."
The Nature article posted above suggests that the excessive noise does cause the whales to leave an area. But so what? Whales have tales. If the noise bothers them, I would expect them to leave. Later on, the author discusses how migratory these whales are. They are always moving. How this proves ship strikes and entanglements is beyond me.

"Or the whales could be deafened, increasing their chances of being struck by a ship later on." Or maybe they are not deafened. Pure speculation.

"Direct bleeding injury, like getting their ears damaged, is another known risk, possibly leading to death from infection. " Again, no proof of causation, just guessing. Have any of the dead whales been found to have burst eardrums?

My guess is loss of cold water krill and increased bunker inshore has led the whales closer to shore and closer to shipping and fishing areas - hence, the huge increase in whale watching Youtubes and TicToks
 
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