ASMFC Striped Bass Draft Addendum III - Plain English Summary

Moratorium? Doubtful

But they do have the power to implement an emergency closure.

As for circle hooks, I'm not sure everyone complies with that rule especially when snagging bunker.

That said, I probably experienced 1/3 of my fish gut hooked even using circle hooks with live bait. Very few gut hooked on chunks.

The worst thing I see is how fish are handled especially bigger fish over 30lbs. The odds of survival when removed from the water for a.picture go way down. Ok won't even bring up the survival rates for Bass released from the deck of a PB!
 
Has anyone heard of a moratorium for striped bass this fall. I just heard this from a tackle shop.
The new ASMFC catch phrase is "No Targeting",,,, same thing! Attend tonight's meeting for NY in person or online

NY Hybrid Public Hearing on Atlantic Striped Bass Draft Addendum III​

6:00 pm EDT

– 8:00 pm EDT,

Sep 17 –

Sep 17, 2025
Location:

Webinar & NYSDEC Division of Marine Resources, 123 Kings Park Blvd (inside Nissequogue River State Park), Kings Park, NY
 
The new ASMFC catch phrase is "No Targeting",,,, same thing! Attend tonight's meeting for NY in person or online

NY Hybrid Public Hearing on Atlantic Striped Bass Draft Addendum III​

6:00 pm EDT

– 8:00 pm EDT,

Sep 17 –

Sep 17, 2025
Location:

Webinar & NYSDEC Division of Marine Resources, 123 Kings Park Blvd (inside Nissequogue River State Park), Kings Park, NY
 
Anyone at the meeting last night? I saw Jersey had about 100-people there the other day. Notice the average age of the attendees. These kids have no idea what's coming.
 
Anyone at the meeting last night? I saw Jersey had about 100-people there the other day. Notice the average age of the attendees. These kids have no idea what's coming.

I listened in on the Webinar. There was a little over 100 people on that. Not sure who was in person. It's either Status Quo, or have two different sizes for shore and FH boats, plus different closure seasons. I'm trying to look for the PowerPoint they said would be available on the site. I had to stop listening after an hour do to dinner reservations, so I didn't catch much of the public comments.
 
I'm a bit surprised that no one has any info on the meeting. I guess I have to make a few calls. I know that the chartert/partyboat sector is supporting status quo.
 
Here's a summary from NJ in-person only meeting:
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This is my take on the Striped Bass meeting last night in Stafford Township Volunteer Fire Hall. It was all about the reduction of harvest in our recreational community.

I arrived right at 6 pm last night, representing American Angler and our 275-member organization. I also manage and own a small local tackle shop in Ocean County, and noticed that there were just over 100 other participants in attendance for the meeting, which lasted just over two hours. The goal of this meeting was to get suggestions from the recreational angler on how to increase Striped Bass Biomass by reducing the Striped Bass recreational harvest by 12 percent. This could mean closed dates, no harvesting, or even worse, no targeting. It's a very complex issue with the Atlantic States Fishery Commission (Board). Details regarding these estimates, guesses, and assumptions are provided, but the following points stood out to me personally.

1) One Charter Captain asked the question, "Has the board taken into consideration the financial/economic impact of this reduction if these new rules are implemented"? He further said, "It would affect him personally by 36 percent, again if implemented". The answer to this question by the coordinator was "Yes, the board has always had this in mind when making decisions and suggestions on the Striped Bass. However, she admitted the last study on this was in 2015, and no new data has been provided. My 2 cents on this is, do not implement these rules until you have ALL of the data! Out-of-date data and no real-time information should be present when making any decisions related. Especially when the decisions impact anglers, retailers, and manufacturers heavily.

2) The chart shows a recent decrease in the biomass of the Striped Bass. Along with that, the board indicates there is still a 9 percent fatality rate on "Catch and Release". Even though back in 2020, the Circle Hook rule was added, and the end of the Snag and Drop rule. Either they have not considered this impact or done any studies on these new rules, which should change the 9 percent fatality rate substantially. And if not, why have it? Personally, I love the Circle Hook rule as I believe it works. I have seen many anglers give special care to make sure the Striped Bass return alive.

3) Multiple times it came up that they get their information on the current Striped Bass Biomass from data, studies, VTR's and phone calls. It was pointed out by NOAA that the results of the 2024 study of the Biomass population of Striped Bass can be off as much as "30 to 40 percent." That being said, in my 40 years of fishing for Striped Bass, I have only been asked once "what I caught" by an official of the state, and that was because it was from a friend whom I recognized when leaving the beach. So, where is this phone book of "registration" that we had to implement back over a decade ago? Natta!

4) The board reconizes that closures in New Jersey will not have the same effect in other states along our coast. However, because of the migration of the Striped Bass in the spring and fall, New Jersey may have one of the worst impacts of these closures. I do not think they are seriously taking all of this into consideration.There seems to be no way it would be fair along our coast if closures are accepted.

5) Most, if not all, of the commentators last night felt that New Jersey should keep the Status Quo for the regulations in 2026. That is from 28 inches to 30.99 inches. It seemed to be united on this suggestion.

So in my opinion, the data is flawed, and there is little to no real science to prove that the Biomass of Striped Bass needs to be increased by having more restrictions on the recreational angler. We at American Angler feel the Status Quo should be implemented in 2026, and let's also take into consideration that there are so many anglers out there that cannot or will not (a whole different subject) abide by the new and possibly difficult-to-understand and remember the new regulations. Again, Status Quo!
 
@hartattack I'm curious if you got a sense of what "waves" they're considering closing? I can't help but feel that the wave closure options are the first step in the total closure.

And thanks a lot for your input here. Do you guys have a New York Chapter?
 
No data since 2015.......Im sure I'm Roccus will have something to say about that!
What sort of data's last reporting in 2015??

For the record, my data strongly suggests that we're already meeting the 12% reduction so Status Quo is more than adequate. Here are my data when comparing 2024 and 2025 to the 2023 Benchmark:

Total Fish Killed w/ 10% Mortality Calculated + Retained Fish
Total Mortality
Reduction vs 2023
41.9
XXXXXXXXX
21.4
-48.93%
2.8
-93.32%
Overall 24/25 combined vs 2023 %
-42.24%
Regardless, no matter what the "Brain Trust" at ASMFC comes up with for Addendum III, we're SOOL unless someone solves the spawn problem pronto...
 
I'm a bit surprised that no one has any info on the meeting. I guess I have to make a few calls. I know that the chartert/partyboat sector is supporting status quo.
Sorry for the late reply but I had been fishing the last 2 days. I did listen in on the NY meeting via the Webinar format this past Wednesday evening. Before I go into more detail, I will quickly say that based upon Hartattack’s report, the NY meetings discussions and outcome were essentially the same.

I hate to sound like a broken record but sadly these exercises in futility seem to change very little over the years. The data being collected and used to make huge decisions on a critical shared resource always seems to be very thin, surject to tremendous amounts of sheer speculation, and often way out of date. It is my understanding that many members of both the commercial and recreational fishing communities have offered to help the “fisheries managers” collect more accurate data and yet they are intent on using very flawed methods that don’t even approach the common-sense level of reasoning. Dragging the same areas year after year when we all know that fish and their food sources swim plus not knowing (as close as possible) what the actual size/age range is for the most fertile Striped Bass are just 2 prime examples. Merely believing that the largest fish are the most successful breeders is sheer nonsense and doesn’t apply to virtually any fish, animal, or human being on earth. But, despite direct commentary to this effect, you walk away from these meetings realizing the bureaucrats are far more interested in protecting their own jobs than the fisheries, which are in fact the financial and emotional component of healthy, concerned citizens.

So, IMHO what will happen is what usually occurs. Changes will be implemented that the managers feel will distribute the pain most equitably among all those participating in this fishery. As far as the public input goes, I did a quick tally of those who offered comments and, like NJ the majority were in favor of “Status Quo”. As Hartattack pointed out what exactly does that mean? Although it was not clearly specified by those making public statements, I interpreted it to mean same slot size for next year and no closures at all. Clearly that is not going to happen.

The discussion on No Harvest vs. No Targeting was pretty much one sided and virtually no one believes that No-Targeting can be effectively enforced. As a last resort, if all we are allowed at certain times of the year are No Harvest (C&R) periods then that’s better than nothing.

Now it comes down to what Waves will be hit the hardest in terms of number of days to be closed. Based upon prior meetings I have attended this one was pretty large as different parts of the region are more directly impacted by certain seasonal closures than others. It’s no secret that the fall Striped Bass run on the South Shore of LI has been far superior to that on the North Fork or even other North Shore areas for many years now. So, there was a very large contingent from the South shore ports that all want to minimize if not eliminate any closures during the fall run. Obviously, those folks will suffer great economic hardship if long term closers are put in place. Due to recent patterns in Striped Bass availability almost the opposite is true for the North Fork and most of the north shore participants. If we lose a good part of the season say from mid-May and any part of June, the results to our businesses will be just as traumatic. So, as I mentioned earlier what is likely to happen is we will all suffer somewhat with closures implemented on both sides of the season but the slot limit essentially remaining in place.

These are just the opinions and observations of one North Fork charter captain who both loves to catch and eat Striped Bass and whose customers feel the same way.

Capt. Mike Bady
 
What sort of data's last reporting in 2015??

For the record, my data strongly suggests that we're already meeting the 12% reduction so Status Quo is more than adequate. Here are my data when comparing 2024 and 2025 to the 2023 Benchmark:

Total Fish Killed w/ 10% Mortality Calculated + Retained Fish
Total Mortality
Reduction vs 2023
41.9
XXXXXXXXX
21.4
-48.93%
2.8
-93.32%
Overall 24/25 combined vs 2023 %
-42.24%
Regardless, no matter what the "Brain Trust" at ASMFC comes up with for Addendum III, we're SOOL unless someone solves the spawn problem pronto...
The obvious problem here, is that Roccus does real science and statistical analysis. Our fisheries managers are a bunch of hacks too lazy to change their ways and do some real, hard work.
 
I'm not sure how much more they can get out of us. Recreational anglers release 91% of the fish that we catch. We have a 3-inch slot and there are tackle regulations also imposed. Commercials are banned from the Bight and therefore have little impact on the Hudson spawn and the spring fishery in New York.

I don't see a way out, but I've said that before. I wouldn't be shocked if they go status quo. Lots of arguments in favor, with the ASFMC admitting that overfishing is not occurring.
 

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