Rut-Roh, Electric Vehicles losing some of their charm...
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At least it happened outside of the factory...
Over 50 Rivian vehicles were destroyed in a fire that broke out Saturday night at the electric vehicle company's factory in Normal, Illinois, according to photos from the scene and a local news report. No injuries were reported in the fire.
Witnesses reported seeing fire outside the Rivian factory shortly before 10 p.m. on Saturday night. The Normal Fire Department (NFD) responded and fought the blaze which was in a parking lot outside of the factory. NFD spokesperson Matt Swaney said that the fire was out by midnight on Sunday and that the EV factory was not damaged, according to 25 News Now.
There has been no official word on the number of vehicles damaged in the fire. However, aerial photos and video posted to a Rivian Facebook group show that about 50 to 60 vehicles were torched and appear to be a total loss. The damaged vehicles were cordoned off by box cars and barriers in the corner of the parking lot.
Avenger
Well-Known Angler
Lightning strike?
Whatever it was it “won’t be due to a lithium battery igniting”, of course.
Until a new, safer technology comes along - Li-ion it is.Thanks for unlocking that article, these Lihtium Ion batteries pose a real dilemma you hate them but we need them
I've never ridden in one, so I wouldn't know.
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This is the nicest electric car I’ve been in so far. Looks great inside and out.
But I wasn’t sure it was “ON” so I hit the pedal ( a bit too hard I would guess)
Because this thing slammed me into my seat and sent my phone flying to the back of the car, that was the fastest I’ve ever gone in 15 feet!
E-Tron GT
HOPEFULLY, I’LL NEVER HAVE TO BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY COOL!
But I wasn’t sure it was “ON” so I hit the pedal ( a bit too hard I would guess)
Because this thing slammed me into my seat and sent my phone flying to the back of the car, that was the fastest I’ve ever gone in 15 feet!
E-Tron GT
HOPEFULLY, I’LL NEVER HAVE TO BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY COOL!
Lol I know that spotThis is the nicest electric car I’ve been in so far. Looks great inside and out.
But I wasn’t sure it was “ON” so I hit the pedal ( a bit too hard I would guess)
Because this thing slammed me into my seat and sent my phone flying to the back of the car, that was the fastest I’ve ever gone in 15 feet!
E-Tron GT
HOPEFULLY, I’LL NEVER HAVE TO BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY COOL!
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wader
Well-Known Angler
This is the nicest electric car I’ve been in so far. Looks great inside and out.
But I wasn’t sure it was “ON” so I hit the pedal ( a bit too hard I would guess)
Because this thing slammed me into my seat and sent my phone flying to the back of the car, that was the fastest I’ve ever gone in 15 feet!
E-Tron GT
HOPEFULLY, I’LL NEVER HAVE TO BUY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, BUT THIS ONE WAS PRETTY COOL!
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Audi (VW) makes a great product...
Gas or Electric
Yeah over priced garbage
Electric like I said
Yup like the title of the thread
We just purchased a Honda Hybrid CR-V and do love it. Living in a rural area, any thought of a Plug In Hybrid or an EV is just a non-starter. Looks like Honda, along with other manufacturers, is realizing that in the US, full EVs are just not a viable business plan until the vehicles can get 400-500 miles on a single charge at an easily available charging station within 15 minutes...
Honda Motor on Thursday reported its first annual loss since becoming a publicly traded company in Japan seven decades ago, as the costly retreat from its ambitious electric-vehicle targets plunged earnings into the red.
The automaker reported a net loss of $2.7 billion for the fiscal year that ended March 31. Earnings were weighed down by more than $9 billion in restructuring charges and write-downs following a retrenchment of its E.V. strategy. It is the first loss that the 77-year-old company has reported since listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange in 1957.
The sharp downturn underscores the extent to which Honda — and many other automakers that poured billions into electric vehicles — has been buffeted by cooling demand.
“The business environment and customer demand have changed beyond our expectations,” Toshihiro Mibe, Honda’s chief executive, said in a news conference in Tokyo on Thursday. “We were not able to respond flexibly enough,” he said.
Just five years ago, Honda was racing to catch up to Tesla and Chinese rivals such as BYD in building electric cars. It pledged to make its entire lineup electric or hydrogen-powered by 2040, a more aggressive transition than rival Japanese automakers like Toyota, which remained cautious about fully electric cars and continued to throw its weight behind hybrid and gasoline-powered models.
For some, Honda’s rapid pivot to electric vehicles was unexpected for a company long known for its mastery of the internal combustion engine. Still one of Japan’s top-selling automakers behind Toyota, Honda first made inroads in the United States in the 1970s with a fleet of low-cost vehicles powered by some of the world’s most efficient engines.
Starting in 2021, Honda — an automaker that traditionally eschewed big strategic alliances — began investing billions to develop battery-powered cars both in-house and in partnerships with General Motors and Sony, the Japanese electronics giant. For a time, its 2040 target won praise from investors and environmental groups alike.
However, many consumers were not quite ready. After an initial wave of early adopters propped up sales, other mainstream buyers balked, largely because of lingering concerns about charging infrastructure and high sticker prices. Then, last year, federal subsidies for many electric models were effectively gutted under the Trump administration.
In 2025, electric vehicle sales in the United States fell, snapping a record-breaking growth streak half a decade long for electric cars. The slowdown has also weighed on American majors. Earlier this year, Ford said its electric-vehicle division lost $4.8 billion in 2025 and would likely continue to lose money for at least two more years.
Honda has also faced challenges in its other key markets, including China and Southeast Asia, from an influx of low-cost Chinese vehicles. Honda’s unit sales in Asia in 2025 were down by more than a fifth from the previous year.
In March, Honda announced the cancellation of three major electric models originally destined for the North American market. An affordable line that Honda was developing with General Motors and a software-laden vehicle it was codeveloping with Sony have been put on ice.
On Thursday, Mr. Mibe said the company would nix its 2040 target of selling only electric and hydrogen-powered cars. That target was decided based on the Biden administration’s environmental policies in the United States, the company’s biggest market, he said.
“A year ago, there was a drastic change. We have seen a shift from a focus on the environment to the opposite,” Mr. Mibe said. Honda’s previous target, he added, “is now not realistic.”
For now, Honda said it would double down on gasoline-electric hybrids, introducing 15 next-generation, high-efficiency models, including larger vehicles in North America, by 2030. Combined with plans to cut costs and accelerate development, this push is intended to restore Honda to record profit levels by the end of the decade, Mr. Mibe said. The company is also forecasting a return to profitability this year.
Honda is not giving up on developing “highly competitive electric vehicles,” Mr. Mibe said. The idea, he added, “is to lay technological groundwork while ensuring greater flexibility and a wider range of options so that we will be well-prepared to meet demand when it emerges.”
Honda Posts First Ever Annual Loss After Pullback From E.V.s
The Japanese automaker posted its first loss since 1957 as it took a multibillion-dollar hit from scaling back its electric-vehicle plans.Honda Motor on Thursday reported its first annual loss since becoming a publicly traded company in Japan seven decades ago, as the costly retreat from its ambitious electric-vehicle targets plunged earnings into the red.
The automaker reported a net loss of $2.7 billion for the fiscal year that ended March 31. Earnings were weighed down by more than $9 billion in restructuring charges and write-downs following a retrenchment of its E.V. strategy. It is the first loss that the 77-year-old company has reported since listing on the Tokyo Stock Exchange in 1957.
The sharp downturn underscores the extent to which Honda — and many other automakers that poured billions into electric vehicles — has been buffeted by cooling demand.
“The business environment and customer demand have changed beyond our expectations,” Toshihiro Mibe, Honda’s chief executive, said in a news conference in Tokyo on Thursday. “We were not able to respond flexibly enough,” he said.
Just five years ago, Honda was racing to catch up to Tesla and Chinese rivals such as BYD in building electric cars. It pledged to make its entire lineup electric or hydrogen-powered by 2040, a more aggressive transition than rival Japanese automakers like Toyota, which remained cautious about fully electric cars and continued to throw its weight behind hybrid and gasoline-powered models.
For some, Honda’s rapid pivot to electric vehicles was unexpected for a company long known for its mastery of the internal combustion engine. Still one of Japan’s top-selling automakers behind Toyota, Honda first made inroads in the United States in the 1970s with a fleet of low-cost vehicles powered by some of the world’s most efficient engines.
Starting in 2021, Honda — an automaker that traditionally eschewed big strategic alliances — began investing billions to develop battery-powered cars both in-house and in partnerships with General Motors and Sony, the Japanese electronics giant. For a time, its 2040 target won praise from investors and environmental groups alike.
However, many consumers were not quite ready. After an initial wave of early adopters propped up sales, other mainstream buyers balked, largely because of lingering concerns about charging infrastructure and high sticker prices. Then, last year, federal subsidies for many electric models were effectively gutted under the Trump administration.
In 2025, electric vehicle sales in the United States fell, snapping a record-breaking growth streak half a decade long for electric cars. The slowdown has also weighed on American majors. Earlier this year, Ford said its electric-vehicle division lost $4.8 billion in 2025 and would likely continue to lose money for at least two more years.
Honda has also faced challenges in its other key markets, including China and Southeast Asia, from an influx of low-cost Chinese vehicles. Honda’s unit sales in Asia in 2025 were down by more than a fifth from the previous year.
In March, Honda announced the cancellation of three major electric models originally destined for the North American market. An affordable line that Honda was developing with General Motors and a software-laden vehicle it was codeveloping with Sony have been put on ice.
On Thursday, Mr. Mibe said the company would nix its 2040 target of selling only electric and hydrogen-powered cars. That target was decided based on the Biden administration’s environmental policies in the United States, the company’s biggest market, he said.
“A year ago, there was a drastic change. We have seen a shift from a focus on the environment to the opposite,” Mr. Mibe said. Honda’s previous target, he added, “is now not realistic.”
For now, Honda said it would double down on gasoline-electric hybrids, introducing 15 next-generation, high-efficiency models, including larger vehicles in North America, by 2030. Combined with plans to cut costs and accelerate development, this push is intended to restore Honda to record profit levels by the end of the decade, Mr. Mibe said. The company is also forecasting a return to profitability this year.
Honda is not giving up on developing “highly competitive electric vehicles,” Mr. Mibe said. The idea, he added, “is to lay technological groundwork while ensuring greater flexibility and a wider range of options so that we will be well-prepared to meet demand when it emerges.”
longcast
Well-Known Angler
And they still won’t learn. I said this from the beginning. Let’s talk about infrastructure. It cannot support the vision. Maybe hang a consulting shingle and at least get paid on the back of their failures.
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