the "Headline That Caught My Attention or the WTF" thread

This was a conversation we used to have at work, about how liable is a non-CDL driver for exceeding the ratings of their vehicle and trailer.

It's not uncommon. We had repaired a huge wood-chipper for a customer and they sent this young girl with an F-150 to pick it up. I guess it made it okay, but you usually see the chippers being pulled by at least a six-wheel truck.

My co-worker had a CDL and often questioned friends who towed race-car trailers with decent sized pickups, but still knowingly overloaded them.

Most of our conversations were about liability. Sure, DOT may bag them somewhere. And don't get me started on their BS, but there are bad actors.

What about the guy that buys a truck that's rated for 15K combined and puts a trailer on it and with the toolbox and cars and parts it's 17K? Most of the universe wouldn't notice, but what if there's a collision? Will insurance cover you? Will the cops actually weigh anything? Probably not if there's no fatalities. Does claiming ignorance buy a pass?


 
I used to tow my old 23' Mako with my 1999 Yukon to Montauk from Long Beach fairly often during the summer. Had a tandem trailer with brakes. One time my buddy asked me to bring our "a few" flats of butterfish for tuna season so I picked them up in Freeport on my way out. Well "a few" meant 25 flats! I felt all the extra weight and was grateful nothing happened but that boat was so overloaded!

Completely changed the driving characteristics of my truck so I definitely see your point!
 
Two boats belonging to the same people sinking within a week??? That sounds legit...

Historic former Maine windjammer sinks in New York City harbor

The schooner Victory Chimes, which is featured along with the Pemaquid Point Lighthouse on Maine’s state quarter, had been destined to become a floating restaurant.

A historic former Maine windjammer has sunk in New York City.

The Victory Chimes, a 128-foot schooner featured on a 2003 commemorative Maine state quarter, was previously based out of Rockland. In 2023 it was sold to two brothers who have a history of converting ships into floating restaurants and moved it to New York.

The U.S. Coast Guard confirmed receiving a report of a vessel, later determined to be the Victory Chimes, taking on water near Henry Street Basin, near the Red Hook area of Brooklyn, around 5 p.m. on Saturday.

The Coast Guard’s Sector New York issued an urgent marine broadcast, and New York City police responded and tried to remove water from the vessel, but it did sink, Sydney Phoenix, a Coast Guard public affairs specialist, said on Monday. She said there were no known pollution risks from the sinking.

The vessel was tied to a mooring wall. Phoenix said the sinking remains under investigation.

The ship was sold at auction for $75,900 to Miles and Alex Pincus, through the company Crew, which owns multiple floating restaurants in the New York area.

Another vessel owned by the company, the Pilot, sank around noon on July 1, while berthed near the Victory Chimes.

Phoenix said that the Coast Guard received a report of the Pilot sinking due to unknown causes on July 1. She said the owner was conducting a salvage plan and had a boom deployed around the vessel.

The ships’ owners could not immediately be reached for comment Monday, however, Alex Pincus told the blog South Brooklyn History they did not know the cause of the sinking of the Pilot.

A large fleet of tall ships was in New York for the weekend as part of July 4 celebrations on America’s 250th birthday, but the Victory Chimes was not part of those festivities.

Paul DeGaeta, a former captain of the Victory Chimes, said on a Facebook page that he saw the Victory Chimes in New York a year ago. He said it didn’t appear the vessel was being maintained and predicted it would sink last winter. He posted about its demise on his page.

Historic SchoonerThe Victory Chimes passes the Rockland Breakwater Lighthouse during the Maine Windjammer Parade in July 2009. The Victory Chimes’ owner announced that 2022 was to be the final season for the windjammer that’s so synonymous with Maine that the 2003 state quarter featured a sailing vessel modeled after the schooner. (Robert F. Bukaty/Associated Press)

“Heartbreaking. But you’d have to show me a three-masted or larger American sailing vessel that represented the American spirit any better than Victory Chimes,” he wrote. “Victory Chimes supported herself, until she couldn’t anymore. You’ll never convince me that vessels lack a soul; that was her final message as an American National Historic Landmark and representing Maine on the state quarter. She didn’t want to be a restaurant; she was meant to run free before the wind.”

Brad Vogel, a writer in New York, posted on his Instagram page that he had gone down to the waterfront to confirm reports of the Pilot’s sinking. When he did, he saw the Victory Chimes had sunk, too.

Built in 1900, Victory Chimes operated as a windjammer starting in 1954, giving tours of the Maine coast, accommodating up to 43 passengers.

It was previously known as the Edwin & Maud, and hauled cargo in Chesapeake Bay until 1946 when it was converted to carry passengers.

In 1987, Tom Monaghan, then owner of Domino’s Pizza and Major League Baseball’s Detroit Tigers bought and restored the schooner. In 1989, Domino’s put the infrequently used vessel — then named the Domino Effect — up for sale.

DeGaeta and Kip Files purchased Victory Chimes in 1990 and returned it to the Maine windjammer trade. That prompted the Maine State Legislature to bestow on it the honor of “Official Windjammer of the state of Maine.”
 
We're in trouble


I spoke about people at the airshow who ruin things for everyone else, and here's your proof:



I hope, but doubt, it was the blowhole blasting his DJ's music across Zach's Bay.

Too bad.

I'd have supported calling in an airstrike on that fu¢#.

You know the airshow teams have all shifted to bio oils for the smoke. You know, because petroleum is from below the Earth's surface, thus the devil's product. Saving the planet, etc.

Inneresting how biological things like mold attack vinyl like crazy. Who are they going to sue about mold?

Sooner or later all the good things will go away. Because, the entitled. Because, whiners and their attorneys, who always think they're entitled to their share of compensation.

IOW, free stuff.
 
This is why we can't have nice things.

Life has risks. How do I get compensation from the @$$hole with the DJ and the giant speakers for ruining my day?
It is not acceptable that you attend an airshow an as a result you vessel gets damaged to the tune of thousands of dollars.

If after an investigation it is found that the colored smoke was responsible for the damages, then someone, or more than one party should be held accountable.

Let’s say they flew over you home and your cars, motorcycle, and home were stained and you were unable to clean any of these things. Would you caulk it up to, it’s a risk I take living here??
 
Class action - all the boats must be damaged
Last thing you want to do is get lawyers involved. Let the investigation play out in a timely manner, and provided there is culpability found, see what monetary solutions might be available. Lawyers should be last resort.
 
It is not acceptable that you attend an airshow an as a result you vessel gets damaged to the tune of thousands of dollars.

If after an investigation it is found that the colored smoke was responsible for the damages, then someone, or more than one party should be held accountable.

Let’s say they flew over you home and your cars, motorcycle, and home were stained and you were unable to clean any of these things. Would you caulk it up to, it’s a risk I take living here??

Great. Who's responsible for the wrinkled fenders on my car after a visit to Home Depot? It was fine when I parked it. Who's got the deep pockets?

You're right about not getting lawyers involved. But I suspect if the complainers hadn't done that, we would have no idea that the stains even occurred.
 
Great. Who's responsible for the wrinkled fenders on my car after a visit to Home Depot? It was fine when I parked it. Who's got the deep pockets?

You're right about not getting lawyers involved. But I suspect if the complainers hadn't done that, we would have no idea that the stains even occurred.
I have not seen it, but my understanding is that one way a lot of these people came togethet and associate the damage to their vessels is through FB.

Your Home Depot comparison has already been settled in case law. Unless there was a witness, or cameras that can identify the culprit responsible for hitting your car, you’re just chit out of luck. And they are not required to have cameras. You may have a case against Home Depot however if their parking lot, spaces, etc. were not designed and built up to architectural standards.
 

Fishing Reports

Latest articles

Back
Top