Another Braid-to-Leader Knot that's pretty straightforward

[Leprechaun]

Though I stick with the PR Bobbin Knot for my blackfishing braid to shock leaders, I cannot do the "bobbin thing" on the water. If by some happenstance I do lose my leader, then this is a knot I would consider tying whilst bobbing around out there. What I never use is the Double Uni, as I've had those fail while pulling free from snags. Anyways, check this out:

 

[Snapprhead27]

Interesting knot. I'm used to leaving space with the braid while going up, so when I go back down and put it in between the spaces it cinches down.

 

[longcast]

Though I stick with the PR Bobbin Knot for my blackfishing braid to shock leaders, I cannot do the "bobbin thing" on the water. If by some happenstance I do lose my leader, then this is a knot I would consider tying whilst bobbing around out there. What I never use is the Double Uni, as I've had those fail while pulling free from snags. Anyways, check this out:

Might be difficult pulling this off on the water. That bench seems to be the stabilization factor keeping everything tight.

 

[OVERBORED]

Maybe it's the heavier line he's using but under tension, that bulky lead knot is going to get caught up on tip.

I'm partial to FG knot. On the fly I'll tie a uni to uni as long as I don't need to cast.

 

[Leprechaun]

Have you tried the PR Bobbin Knot? Faster than the FG and stronger as well, from personal experience.

 

[OVERBORED]

Have you tried the PR Bobbin Knot? Faster than the FG and stronger as well, from personal experience.

I have not. I'll do some research. Thanks

 

[Leprechaun]

Its my go-to for my blackfish leaders. It flies thru the guides. I've gone to it because one of most favoritest tog rods (a now-discontinued Daiwa Proteus SS H) has the tiniest guides you'll ever see, and no other knot, not even the FG will cleanly reel-back thru them like the PR will. The PR knot was created by the Asian slow-pitch guys, because their SP rods typically use fairly small single-foot guides as the runners, which could be torn right off the rod blank by a hung, larger knot.

Using the bobbin is all about finding the right tension for its little wind-on spool. But once you do find it, just leave it with that amount of tension and it'll be good to go from that date onward.

Plus the PR is way cool to create, so there's that too. It's really just one more skill to master. But once you've got it, you've got it. All the bobbins out there function the same. Mine cost like $12 from AliExpress and works just as well as a $40 version. I'm typically joining 30lb Braid to 40lb Berkley Big Game on my baitcasters and 20lb braid to 30lb Big Game on my spinners.

Here's how its done. I typically make my PR's half that length, but to each his own.

 

[OVERBORED]

I have a bobbin from my bucktail tying days but your's looks like a surgical instrument! Lol
Looking forward to playing with that knot!
Thanks for posting

 

[Leprechaun]

So here's a "motorized" version of the PR Bobbin Knot. He's calling it an FG, but is more of a PR. THe FG criss-crosses the braid over the leader, while the PR lays it on top of itself. Anyway I do like my gadgets, that's for sure!

 

[Occh639]

FG and an Alberto when I want to tie something quicker.
I do believe that whatever knot you are comfortable and proficient at tying is the right knot to use

 

[Chinacat]

FG and an Alberto when I want to tie something quicker.
I do believe that whatever knot you are comfortable and proficient at tying is the right knot to use

Maybe you can teach me those knots on my garage workbench during Sundays snow??

 

[Occh639]

Maybe you can teach me those knots on my garage workbench during Sundays snow??

There is not much I can teach you pal!
But I am willing to give it a try

 

[Matts]

My head is still spinning.
It seems like it is not that much stronger or smoother than an FG.
My big issue with an FG is finishing it. With the bobbin knot, you have that same issue:
locking down the braid tag end and preventing that annoying leader tag end from creeping out during use. That takes more time than tying the knot itself.
I'll stick with alberto and FG.

 

[Leprechaun]

The problem is that the Alberto and the various derivatives thereof will not smoothly enter small guides and especially smaller-ringed tiptops w/o the possibility of hanging up. This goes double for micro-guide equipped rods, like my Daiwa Proteus SS H. My favorite inshore tog rod, but what a PITA to keep from bending those TINY guides. It's a never-ending issue. One day I'll have it re-wrapped with slightly larger guides. Yeah, that's the ticket, "one day."

Anyway, with a ton of guys now going with slow-pitch rods, most of which are wrapped with mini and micro guides, there is a need for much smoother-transitioning knots.

Finishing an FG or PR is as simple as a couple of half-hitches. The very first half hitch locks the knot, adding more before and after you cut the leader’s tag flush to the braid just makes reeling it thru the guides that much easier.

I do agree that neither the FG or PR Bobbin are easy to tie on a pitching boat. So in that case, I do go with a figure-8 Yucatan knot. Not 100% sure if that’s the proper name for that knot, but it’s the one I’ve always used and it’s pretty strong..