Big Hearings Regarding Recreational Scup, BSB, Bluefish & Fluke coming up!! Make your voice heard!!

[hartattack]

The difference in NY/NJ fluke bag limits began in 2017 when NJ was penalized 1 fluke when NJ went out of compliance with ASFMC guidelines. NJ 'knew' there would be penalties but never a closure. In 2026 NJ Fluke bag limit is 3, while NY is four. However NJ still benefits from smaller legal size requirement.
ASMFC will gladly pass the buck to US Director of Commerce (threat of statewide recreational ban). Here's a relevant podcast that George produced in 2021 about noncompliance-

https://audio.buzzsprout.com/yo9hr3qo3em8tb3xbrm1dflefz0z?response-content-disposition=inline

 

[pequa1]

I would gladly support dropping the NY bag limit to three or even two to get Joisey's lower size. I would treat such a bag limit as I treat the one fish limit on weaks; catch one for dinner and paddle home to hit the pool and do other stuff, rather than paddling around to "torture" more shorts or play hook and release.

 

[OVERBORED]

For every one of YOU there's 100 guys who pay good $$$ fishing private boat, PB andCB. I'm sure they would disagree. I would!

 

[pequa1]

For every one of YOU there's 100 guys who pay good $$$ fishing private boat, PB andCB. I'm sure they would disagree. I would!

And this is a good reason why so many fisheries have come and gone. Sheepshead. Winter flounder. Yet joisey Isnt complaining…. So as with everything else, money and greed win, and the environment loses.

 

[OVERBORED]

It's this divisiveness amongst our own ranks that is the problem. You don't care about the PB crowd, they don't care about a kayaker fishing the bay.

 

[pequa1]

It's this divisiveness amongst our own ranks that is the problem. You don't care about the PB crowd, they don't care about a kayaker fishing the bay.

Can't disagree with that, but why not consider the future of the fisheries ? Shouldn't skippers wanting to pass on an activity or a livelihood to their descendents consider the demise of the winter flounder fishery as a harbinger? When I didn't know better I would come home with pails of them.

 

[hawk375]

maybe we all wake up and realize these people have no idea we need to better understand why fish dont reproduce just limiting what you catch will not help them reproduce

 

[OVERBORED]

Can't disagree with that, but why not consider the future of the fisheries ? Shouldn't skippers wanting to pass on an activity or a livelihood to their descendents consider the demise of the winter flounder fishery as a harbinger? When I didn't know better I would come home with pails of them.

Flounder are as much an ecological disaster as a regulatory one. They go hand in hand.

 

[hawk375]

what ecological action has the dec ever taken to help ecosystem

 

[OVERBORED]

They can't lower ocean temps, can't stop fertilizer runoff etc, etc.....they're solution is to keep raising size and reducing bag limits.

 

[hawk375]

look what noaa on west coast is doing its called stocking should we all stand here and watch flounder become extinct if our generation doesn't say something most staff at dec don't know what winter flounder is

 

[OVERBORED]

Again, your stocking waters that have a myriad of environmental issues that our out of our control. Years of coast building and loss of marshlands have decimated juvenile populations

 

[hawk375]

so we just give up