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Media's COVID Narrative Crumbles Under the Weight of the Latest Data
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Media's COVID Narrative Crumbles Under the Weight of the Latest Data
Over the past several weeks, I’ve written more articles than I can reasonably remember on the
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Maybe because our resident Nobel Laureate can neither spell nor post an active link. He's not into details...
You should be able to figure it out, doesn't take an advanced degree in computer technology to get it to work...
Yeah, my fat fingers don't do well on a touchscreen either...
Go figure you want this thread shut down but you cant resist posting in it
Interesting Historical Perspective...
pressherald.com/2021/08/14/ben-franklins-bitter-regret-that-he-didnt-immunize-his-son-against-smallpox/
By Gillian Brockell August 14, 2021
Five weeks had passed since the death of Benjamin Franklin’s son, and rumors were swirling. Four-year-old Francis “Franky” Franklin had died after being inoculated for smallpox, the rumor went, and now his pro-inoculation father was trying to hide it.
The gossip reached such a point that on Dec. 30, 1736, the grieving father, then 30, confronted it in the pages of his newspaper, the Pennsylvania Gazette.
“Inasmuch as some People are, by that (rumor) … deter’d from having that Operation perform’d on their Children,” he wrote, “I do hereby sincerely declare, that he was not inoculated, but receiv’d the Distemper in the common Way of Infection.”
It must have been hard to admit ≠ Franklin had long advocated inoculation as a “safe and beneficial practice” – that his own son had gone unprotected.
“I intended to have my Child inoculated,” he explained, “as soon as he should have recovered sufficient Strength from a Flux (diarrhea) with which he had been long afflicted.”
More than five decades later, in his autobiography published posthumously, he said he had “long regretted bitterly, and still regret” that he had chosen to wait.
Nearly three centuries later, Franklin’s story has new resonance as a fourth wave of the coronavirus pandemic grips the country, driven by the highly contagious delta variant and disproportionately affecting unvaccinated Americans, including children younger than 12, who are not yet eligible to be immunized, and teenagers, who have among the lowest vaccination rates in the country.
The concept of immunization came to the American colonies via Africa. In the early 1700s, Puritan minister Cotton Mather learned from Onesimus, a man he enslaved, about the method long used in West Africa, where a weakened form of the disease would be intentionally applied to a cut.
This gave the patient a mild case of smallpox, with a drastically higher survival rate than the usual illness. And afterward, the patient would be forever immune. Mather brought this concept to a local doctor, who began testing it on family members and people he enslaved.
Growing up in Boston and apprenticing for his older brother’s printing business, the teenage Benjamin Franklin had a front-row seat to the public debate over the doctor’s experiment. But, as Stephen Coss explains in his book, “The Fever of 1721: The Epidemic That Revolutionized Medicine and American Politics,” there was a catch: His brother was against it. In fact, a desire to publish anti-inoculation screeds was a major reason why his brother started his newspaper, according to Coss.
The younger Franklin, always a lover of science and invention, probably didn’t appreciate having to play a part in publishing anti-inoculation views. So later, when he had his own newspaper in Philadelphia, he became one of America’s “foremost inoculation evangelists,” Coss wrote.
When another smallpox outbreak hit Boston in 1730, he carefully recounted how well those who had chosen inoculation fared – only four died out of “hundreds” inoculated, he wrote – versus those who caught it naturally, in which case the death rate was nearly 30 percent.
He later published detailed instructions on how to perform an inoculation, and his decades of cataloguing survival rates probably played a role in George Washington’s decision during the Revolutionary War to order the entire Continental Army to be inoculated. Washington had natural immunity after surviving a bout of smallpox in his youth.
So why, only six years later, did Franklin’s son go uninoculated as another outbreak raged through Philadelphia? Many historians have accepted “at face value” Franklin’s explanation that he was waiting for his son’s health to improve, Coss wrote in Smithsonian Magazine. However, he proposes a different explanation, that Franklin’s wife was afraid of inoculation and convinced her husband not to subject their son to it. He notes that the couple’s relationship, once love-filled and affectionate, degenerated after Franky’s death. Franklin began characterizing his wife as irresponsible and questioned her fitness as a mother.
In 1759, Franklin wrote about such a scenario, while exploring the public’s reticence to accept inoculation. When “one parent or near relation is against it the other does not chuse to inoculate a child without free consent of all parties, lest in case of a disastrous event, perpetual blame should follow.”
He also began to spend significant amounts of time away from her, like spending more than a decade in England when he originally said he would be gone a few months. He often took his daughter, grandson and other family members with him on these trips, but never her. In the last 17 years of her life, they spent only two years together, Coss wrote.
Near the end of his life, as he was writing his autobiography, the blame theme continued. After saying he “long regretted bitterly” the circumstances of his son’s death, he added this warning:
“This I mention for the Sake of Parents, who omit that Operation on the Supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a Child died under it; my Example showing that the Regret may be the same either way, and that therefore the safer should be chosen.”
Ben Franklin’s bitter regret that he didn’t immunize his son against smallpox
By Gillian Brockell August 14, 2021
Five weeks had passed since the death of Benjamin Franklin’s son, and rumors were swirling. Four-year-old Francis “Franky” Franklin had died after being inoculated for smallpox, the rumor went, and now his pro-inoculation father was trying to hide it.
The gossip reached such a point that on Dec. 30, 1736, the grieving father, then 30, confronted it in the pages of his newspaper, the Pennsylvania Gazette.
“Inasmuch as some People are, by that (rumor) … deter’d from having that Operation perform’d on their Children,” he wrote, “I do hereby sincerely declare, that he was not inoculated, but receiv’d the Distemper in the common Way of Infection.”
It must have been hard to admit ≠ Franklin had long advocated inoculation as a “safe and beneficial practice” – that his own son had gone unprotected.
“I intended to have my Child inoculated,” he explained, “as soon as he should have recovered sufficient Strength from a Flux (diarrhea) with which he had been long afflicted.”
More than five decades later, in his autobiography published posthumously, he said he had “long regretted bitterly, and still regret” that he had chosen to wait.
Nearly three centuries later, Franklin’s story has new resonance as a fourth wave of the coronavirus pandemic grips the country, driven by the highly contagious delta variant and disproportionately affecting unvaccinated Americans, including children younger than 12, who are not yet eligible to be immunized, and teenagers, who have among the lowest vaccination rates in the country.
The concept of immunization came to the American colonies via Africa. In the early 1700s, Puritan minister Cotton Mather learned from Onesimus, a man he enslaved, about the method long used in West Africa, where a weakened form of the disease would be intentionally applied to a cut.
This gave the patient a mild case of smallpox, with a drastically higher survival rate than the usual illness. And afterward, the patient would be forever immune. Mather brought this concept to a local doctor, who began testing it on family members and people he enslaved.
Growing up in Boston and apprenticing for his older brother’s printing business, the teenage Benjamin Franklin had a front-row seat to the public debate over the doctor’s experiment. But, as Stephen Coss explains in his book, “The Fever of 1721: The Epidemic That Revolutionized Medicine and American Politics,” there was a catch: His brother was against it. In fact, a desire to publish anti-inoculation screeds was a major reason why his brother started his newspaper, according to Coss.
The younger Franklin, always a lover of science and invention, probably didn’t appreciate having to play a part in publishing anti-inoculation views. So later, when he had his own newspaper in Philadelphia, he became one of America’s “foremost inoculation evangelists,” Coss wrote.
When another smallpox outbreak hit Boston in 1730, he carefully recounted how well those who had chosen inoculation fared – only four died out of “hundreds” inoculated, he wrote – versus those who caught it naturally, in which case the death rate was nearly 30 percent.
He later published detailed instructions on how to perform an inoculation, and his decades of cataloguing survival rates probably played a role in George Washington’s decision during the Revolutionary War to order the entire Continental Army to be inoculated. Washington had natural immunity after surviving a bout of smallpox in his youth.
So why, only six years later, did Franklin’s son go uninoculated as another outbreak raged through Philadelphia? Many historians have accepted “at face value” Franklin’s explanation that he was waiting for his son’s health to improve, Coss wrote in Smithsonian Magazine. However, he proposes a different explanation, that Franklin’s wife was afraid of inoculation and convinced her husband not to subject their son to it. He notes that the couple’s relationship, once love-filled and affectionate, degenerated after Franky’s death. Franklin began characterizing his wife as irresponsible and questioned her fitness as a mother.
In 1759, Franklin wrote about such a scenario, while exploring the public’s reticence to accept inoculation. When “one parent or near relation is against it the other does not chuse to inoculate a child without free consent of all parties, lest in case of a disastrous event, perpetual blame should follow.”
He also began to spend significant amounts of time away from her, like spending more than a decade in England when he originally said he would be gone a few months. He often took his daughter, grandson and other family members with him on these trips, but never her. In the last 17 years of her life, they spent only two years together, Coss wrote.
Near the end of his life, as he was writing his autobiography, the blame theme continued. After saying he “long regretted bitterly” the circumstances of his son’s death, he added this warning:
“This I mention for the Sake of Parents, who omit that Operation on the Supposition that they should never forgive themselves if a Child died under it; my Example showing that the Regret may be the same either way, and that therefore the safer should be chosen.”
wader
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no - it's all the drivel being posted in here like COVID is a case of the sniffles - as long as it keeps showing up I'll keep replying
Interesting Historical Perspective...
Ben Franklin’s bitter regret that he didn’t immunize his son against smallpox
In China, powdered smallpox scabs were blown up the noses of the healthy. The patients would then develop a mild case of the disease and from then on were immune to it. The technique did have a 0.5–2.0% mortality rate, but that was considerably less than the 20–30% mortality rate of the disease itself.
I didn't need Fauci to tell me I would probably need a booster shot at some point. I get a flu shot every year and a tetanus every nine or ten years as well. I also brush my teeth (what's left of them) regularly, got colonoscopies, get tested for glaucoma, and stretch before and after significant muscular activity.
Not exactly what I'm hearing...
www.dailymail.co.uk
Americans with PhDs are most reluctant to get vaccinated against COVID
Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburg reported a U-shaped correlation between vaccine skepticism and education. The highest hesitancy was among the least and most educated.
dsedy
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France :
SUNDAY, AUG 15, 2021 - 08:10 AM
Authored by 'Hardscrabble Farmer' via The Burning Platform,
Here in France it has gone to the extreme with the “Health” Pass.
Last week on the 21st ALL restaurants, bars, coffee shops, and any leisure activities like sporting events, theaters, cinemas, museums, were closed to anyone without “the pass” and all staff at these places are mandated to get the jab to keep their job.
It is now a 6 Month prison sentence if you are caught inside any of these places without the pass (the man who slapped the president in the face got only 3 months prison time). Business owners will get a fine of 45,000 euros and 1 year prison sentence if they do not comply with the use of “the pass” and force all their employees to get the jab. (If you know France, you can commit murder and have less of a sentence)
So the result? All the low paid employees quit, they can make more on welfare here (for now). We can still technically “get take out food” but I just tried last night and every restaurant in our town (that is dine in with take out) has closed their doors due to the lack of staff.
As of last week ALL doctors, nurses and health industry workers have been mandated to get the jab or lose their license, practice, job, business etc. (ALL health care here is Govt paid positions and there are no private health care Doctors or Hospitals etc.)
Since the Health care system is state run and funded, it has been run into the ground. All the good doctors left France 5 Years ago, all the hospitals look like they are 3rd world hospitals since there is no money to repair them, half of the equipment doesn’t work and not every hospital is stocked with supplies needed for daily needs (masks, gels, disposable gowns etc).
For 5 years Nurses have been understaffed and doing double the work because the Health care system is nearly bankrupt…. So add to this the mandatory jab.
So the result? Well they took to the streets by the millions and now all the hospitals just lost another 50% of staff capacity.
My doctor just went into early retirement (a.k.a. he quit) and I have yet to find a replacement.
As of Aug 1st ALL large malls, retail stores and grocery store owners and their staff need to be jabbed and the health pass is required to enter for employees and customers. This would be the equivalent to closing ALL Targets, Walmarts, Costcos, Home Depots, and all major grocery stores. (basically any building over 20,000 square meters) to those without “the pass”.
Result.??
Aug 15th Truckers will be going on strike nation wide; Blocking all access roads in and out of Paris.
Yesterday an entire airport in Northern France closed due to the majority of staff quitting.
As of Sept 15th All public areas and access will be off limits.
No farmers markets, no parks, no national parks, lakes, rivers, beaches, recreation areas, campsites etc. and no gathering over 100 people, no churches, no weddings, etc.
As of Oct 1st ALL small vendors such as, delis, pizza trucks, sandwich shops, butchers, bakers, vegetable stands etc.
So as of Oct 1st I will only be able to purchase food by internet and pick up (if allowed).
Food shortages, Truckers strike, hospitals and airports shutting down unemployment going through the roof. Its going to be a bumpy ride folks.
Is it me or does all this seem a bit extreme for a “pass” that isn’t exactly working?
America, Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, you’d better wake up.
A Message From France
BY TYLER DURDENSUNDAY, AUG 15, 2021 - 08:10 AM
Authored by 'Hardscrabble Farmer' via The Burning Platform,
Here in France it has gone to the extreme with the “Health” Pass.
Last week on the 21st ALL restaurants, bars, coffee shops, and any leisure activities like sporting events, theaters, cinemas, museums, were closed to anyone without “the pass” and all staff at these places are mandated to get the jab to keep their job.
It is now a 6 Month prison sentence if you are caught inside any of these places without the pass (the man who slapped the president in the face got only 3 months prison time). Business owners will get a fine of 45,000 euros and 1 year prison sentence if they do not comply with the use of “the pass” and force all their employees to get the jab. (If you know France, you can commit murder and have less of a sentence)
So the result? All the low paid employees quit, they can make more on welfare here (for now). We can still technically “get take out food” but I just tried last night and every restaurant in our town (that is dine in with take out) has closed their doors due to the lack of staff.
As of last week ALL doctors, nurses and health industry workers have been mandated to get the jab or lose their license, practice, job, business etc. (ALL health care here is Govt paid positions and there are no private health care Doctors or Hospitals etc.)
Since the Health care system is state run and funded, it has been run into the ground. All the good doctors left France 5 Years ago, all the hospitals look like they are 3rd world hospitals since there is no money to repair them, half of the equipment doesn’t work and not every hospital is stocked with supplies needed for daily needs (masks, gels, disposable gowns etc).
For 5 years Nurses have been understaffed and doing double the work because the Health care system is nearly bankrupt…. So add to this the mandatory jab.
So the result? Well they took to the streets by the millions and now all the hospitals just lost another 50% of staff capacity.
My doctor just went into early retirement (a.k.a. he quit) and I have yet to find a replacement.
As of Aug 1st ALL large malls, retail stores and grocery store owners and their staff need to be jabbed and the health pass is required to enter for employees and customers. This would be the equivalent to closing ALL Targets, Walmarts, Costcos, Home Depots, and all major grocery stores. (basically any building over 20,000 square meters) to those without “the pass”.
Result.??
Aug 15th Truckers will be going on strike nation wide; Blocking all access roads in and out of Paris.
Yesterday an entire airport in Northern France closed due to the majority of staff quitting.
As of Sept 15th All public areas and access will be off limits.
No farmers markets, no parks, no national parks, lakes, rivers, beaches, recreation areas, campsites etc. and no gathering over 100 people, no churches, no weddings, etc.
As of Oct 1st ALL small vendors such as, delis, pizza trucks, sandwich shops, butchers, bakers, vegetable stands etc.
So as of Oct 1st I will only be able to purchase food by internet and pick up (if allowed).
Food shortages, Truckers strike, hospitals and airports shutting down unemployment going through the roof. Its going to be a bumpy ride folks.
Is it me or does all this seem a bit extreme for a “pass” that isn’t exactly working?
America, Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, you’d better wake up.
Thousands of counterfeit COVID vax cards from China seized by CBP this year
There have been thousands of fake COVID-19 vaccination cards from China taken by Customs and Border Patrol officers in Tennessee.
nypost.com
Rick67
Well-Known Angler
Per Variant could mean how many a year? All experimental he will make you get more.
He said Masks Don’t Work and made you wear one.
He funded the Creation of this Virus at the Wuhan Lab (Amazing how it had to be investigated for his involvement to become public). It’s not a FACT yet but will be in time.
This is Fact, he believed children were the spreaders of HIV when it first came around. Meanwhile those at the gay bath houses were the primary peeps coming down with it. Really made some wonder WTF was wrong with him then.
He feels compelled to tell you. As the highest paid govt employee he has to say something to you all that comply to earn his pay. ?
China has been researching the utilization of corona viruses as a biological warfare weapon for years. I never believed the nonsense about it being an accidental release in the first place. Anyone who has read Sun Tzu knows the oriental mind looks both short and long term. The chicoms probably didn't want to lose their best, unwitting and naive customer, but taking our economy down a few notches was in play. That said, wearing a mask on rare occasions, getting a shot every so often, socializing with like minded people, and avoiding getting viruses in the first place is on my agenda until I croak from something else. I understand how the wage earning age groups feel, but that is simply not me anymore.
Rick67
Well-Known Angler
5000 now on way to Kabul with 1000 Airborne in Bragg on stand by. Real shit show is starting and zero Taliban have the vaccine. Hasn’t slowed them down.
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