Coronavirus

jpd said:
I'm still waiting to get it after almost 3 years.
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same here - COVID Free since the beginning as have my family (brothers, spouses, children) & all taking precautions (vaccinations, boosters, masks both when when mandated & still if in crowded places hand sanitizers)
 
I suspect that anyone who believes they never had Covid, actually did have it, and that particular variant did not affect them much. They never got tested at that specific time, and the barely noticeable symptoms went away. The effects the minor bout had on your immune system are uncertain.
I only found out that I had it last January because my son (who lives with us) tested positive, so I tested myself.
Unfortunately, much like the flu or common cold, having it once does not seem to protect you from new variants.
That's why it is so important to slow down the spread and reduce the creation of new variants.
 
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

China Denounces Covid Testing Rules Imposed on Its Travelers​

A government spokeswoman said Beijing would consider reciprocal measures against countries that have sought to limit travelers arriving from China.

The Chinese government on Tuesday denounced Covid testing requirements imposed by other countries on travelers arriving from China as unscientific or “excessive,” and threatened to take countermeasures.

As China prepares to open its borders later this week, allowing its citizens to travel abroad for the first time since the pandemic began, countries like Canada, the United States, France, Spain, Japan and the United Kingdom have moved to restrict travelers arriving from the country.

The countries have cited concerns about a surge in Covid-19 infections in China, the potential risk of variants emerging from its outbreak and the government’s perceived reluctance to share coronavirus data with other countries. The restrictions include requiring a negative Covid test or mandatory testing upon arrival.

In response, Chinese officials have accused the countries of introducing the restrictions for political reasons.

“Some countries have no scientific basis for restricting entries from China, and some excessive practices are even more unacceptable,” said Mao Ning, a foreign ministry spokeswoman, speaking at a news conference in Beijing on Tuesday.
 
Wife had it again last week ( very mild symptoms )
And my back went out so bad I couldn’t move
My Covid positive care giver made my meals and helped me dress and no we don’t and didn’t wear masks in our home
With an excess in test kits we both tested every few days

Amazing once again Im still negative 5 days after she’s no longer positive
 
movetheboat said:
the latest version of covid attacks the back I heard...
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Care to provide a reference or did you pull it out of you backside?

For those interested:

There’s Already Another New Dominant Covid Strain. Here’s What to Know.​

In the Northeast, the fast-spreading XBB.1.5 variant is causing a majority of new cases.

Coronavirus cases and hospitalizations have steadily ticked up in the United States over the past couple months. This is due, at least in part, to half a dozen subvariants that seem to be better at immune evasion and at transmission than previous virus versions.

Now, one subvariant, XBB.1.5, seems to be spreading even faster. A hybrid of two BA.2 variants and a relative of the so-called “nightmare variant,” XBB, which caused a surge in Singapore in the fall, XBB.1.5 is raising concerns about a potential wave in the United States as people return from holiday travel.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, XBB.1.5 nearly doubled in prevalence every week in December. Just before Christmas, it accounted for 21.7 percent of new Covid cases in the United States. In an update on Dec. 30, the C.D.C. said that XBB.1.5 made up 40.5 percent of cases and had edged out the other subvariants (like BA.5, BF.7, BQ.1 and BQ.1.1, among others) that are currently responsible for the rest of the cases in the U.S. In the Northeast, XBB.1.5’s foothold is even stronger: It is causing roughly 75 percent of new cases.

Here’s what experts know so far about the new subvariant and what its mutations may mean for repeat infections, symptoms, case numbers and treatment options.

How worried should I be?​

The evolution of coronavirus variants is nothing new. “Viruses and pathogens are constantly trying to adapt and escape the immune pressure that we pose to them,” said Dr. Albert Ko, a physician and epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health.

XBB.1.5 is slightly different from its relatives, because it not only evades protective antibodies, it also is better at binding to cells. That means healthy adults are more likely to be infected with it even after vaccination or an infection with a different variant.

But other parts of the immune system can still come to our defense, said Dr. Otto Yang, an infectious disease physician and immunology researcher at David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles.

Even if mutations in some parts of the virus prevent antibodies from blocking an infection, T cells should be able to recognize the main part of the virus spike protein, Dr. Yang said. And because T cells remember how to respond to the coronavirus based on what they’ve learned from previous encounters or vaccines, they can mount an attack quickly if you do become infected. “They are what prevent severe illness,” Dr. Yang said. “People who are up to date on their vaccines and who get treatment early with Paxlovid or with remdesivir are going to do fine, for the most part.” (Paxlovid is an oral antiviral medication, and remdesivir is an injectable one.)

Immune evasion and infection are a bigger concern for people who are immunocompromised or who do not mount a strong immune response to vaccines. That includes people who have had stem cell or solid organ transplants, people receiving cancer treatments, people with autoimmune diseases and people who need immunosuppressive medication for various medical conditions, said Dr. Alpana Waghmare, an infectious disease expert at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center.

The antibody treatments that many immunocompromised people have relied on, like the preventive shot Evusheld and the intravenous Covid treatment bebtelovimab, are not effective against XBB.1.5 and other new subvariants. As a result, immunocompromised people may have more severe disease, but other antiviral treatments will most likely keep deaths from increasing in this group.

What are the symptoms of a Covid-19 infection with the new subvariants?​

There is no evidence yet to suggest that people who are infected with any of the new subvariants experience new or unusual symptoms or that their illness is more severe than what we’ve seen with previous Omicron variants, Dr. Waghmare said.

The most common symptoms still include a mild runny nose, headache and sore throat. These could precede a positive Covid test, and symptoms could be mild or moderate for the duration of the illness.

How can I protect myself against the virus?​

The best thing most people can do to protect themselves is to be vaccinated and boosted. In particular, those who are at high risk, as well as those who have not had a booster shot or a Covid infection in the last four to six months, should make a plan to get a shot, Dr. Yang said. Some experts recommend a booster even sooner.

The bivalent booster can train your immune system to recognize the original virus from 2020 as well as the BA.5 Omicron variant. Although it remains to be seen how well antibodies from the bivalent shot may work against XBB.1.5, the T cell protection that arises from the booster should still be able to protect you against severe illness if you are infected, Dr. Yang said. In terms of vaccine effectiveness, “if we see that deaths are reduced and if serious illness and hospitalizations are reduced, even if people do get infected, that’s still a big success,” said Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist and the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

People who are at high risk of severe Covid-19 or have vulnerable family members should also consider wearing a mask, avoiding crowded indoor venues and asking others about Covid symptoms or exposure, particularly after gatherings. They should also take frequent Covid tests and seek antiviral medication such as Paxlovid early on if a test comes back positive, Dr. Osterholm said.
 
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HERE YA GO PROFESSOR​

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Lower back pain and COVID-19: What is the link?​

Lower back pain is a potential COVID-19 symptom. Some people with the condition also have other muscle pains, such as neck or shoulder pain. Fever, tiredness, and a cough are other common symptoms.
This information comes from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)Trusted Source.
During the COVID-19 pandemic, back pain rates rose. A 2021 studyTrusted Source in Malta found that 30% of participants reported back pain prior to the pandemic. After the pandemic, 49% reported back pain, many of whom had not experienced it before having COVID-19.
Lower back pain and COVID-19: Is it a symptom?
 

What Is the Omicron Subvariant XBB.1.5? - Prevention.com​

https://www.prevention.com › Health › COVID-19


2 days ago — XBB.1.5 symptoms · Fever or chills · Cough · Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing · Fatigue · Muscle or body aches · Headache · New loss of ..

KAPEESH????
 
movetheboat said:
the latest version of covid attacks the back
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Is an extremely different claim from the symptom of muscle aches including lower back muscle pain during an XBB.1.5 infection. Your post is a statement that the new variant of the COVID virus specifically attacks cells somewhere in the back (WRONG) and is a defining aspect of this new variant (WRONG).

That's totally different from Muscle Aches seen in infected patients, which is a very common symptom of ALL COVID variants, as you've mentioned the ensuing posts above. This has nothing to do specifically with the XBB.1.5 COVID Variant, and is common to many other viruses including the flu.

BTW, in case anyone is interested: When you have the flu, a common cold, a virus or a bacterial infection, your immune system jumps into action. It reacts by releasing white blood cells to fight off the infection. The reaction causes inflammation, which can leave your muscles feeling achy.

So once again, your original post is patently false, containing absolutely no informational value, and it took being called out for you to clarify what you meant.

Love - Albert...
 
I guess it is just a mere coincidence that the chinese lifted travel restrictions late last month...they simply like to share.
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movetheboat said:
your interpretation of my post is wrong......
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No, interpretation, it's just strict adherence to reading comprehension. You said the new strain "ATTACKS THE BACK" with no mention of muscle aches or the fact many, many maladies give muscle pain.

No apology from me. I searched the medical literature with "Does XBB.1.5 attack the back" and it came up with Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah. Just using your EXACT WORDS, which are wrong, period.

You should apologize for either poor proofreading skills/reading comprehension or purposely trying to incite sensationalism. We don't need anymore BS on this thread and I would expect better from you.
 
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