Do they think we're idiots!

[OVERBORED]

So if the right whale disappeared, would the ecosystem suddenly collapse?

Are we protecting species that otherwise would not be seen or noticed by anyone?

Whales, seals and sharks have all been protected, have all propogated and thrown the ecosystem out of balance.

Sometimes a species disappears to make room for a more adaptive, stronger one.

 

[Avenger]

I don't know that the sharks are doing that well, but the seals have certainly made out.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of environmentalists. When they want windmills to save the universe it's whales be damned. Then when we want to readjust the rules because we never get it quite right, suddenly the whales are important again.

 

[george]

Soooooo,

NOW they're concerned about whales....

Republicans try to weaken 50-year-old law protecting whales, seals and polar bears

One of the U.S.’s longest standing pieces of environmental legislation, credited with helping save rare whales from extinction, is the subject of an effort for cutbacks from Republican lawmakers who now feel they have the political will to do so.

apnews.com

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[pequa1]

Whale deaths plunge off New Jersey and New York after years of alarming strandings some say linked to offshore wind

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. – After several years of mounting concern over dead whales and dolphins washing ashore, the number of strandings along the New Jersey and New York coasts has dropped sharply this year. Environmental observers report that whale deaths are down roughly 76 percent and dolphin...

www.shorenewsnetwork.com

 

[Avenger]

I know correlation does not equal causation, but that's some mighty close correlation.

 

[pequa1]

I haven't been following the whole procedure that closely but are the pilings for the platforms off of Long Beach (NY) pounded in already ? If not, more dead marine mammals ? (and I put the question mark there quite srarcastically.)

 

[Avenger]

Looks to me like the bases are in. At least the first group.

We'll probably see a bunch more dead wildlife when the start on the next group. But, you know, there'll be no evidence that's actually the cause.

 

[pequa1]

Looks to me like the bases are in. At least the first group.

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We'll probably see a bunch more dead wildlife when the start on the next group. But, you know, there'll be no evidence that's actually the cause.

Huh. I only surfcast Tobay beach and they simply aren't (or weren't) visible on the few days this fall that I fruitlessly tried for a striper. Was that photo taken from a boat ? Is that array aligned parallel with Lawnguyland or angled diagonally ?

 

[OVERBORED]

Probably more about the sonar equipment used in the surveys. Only the company knows and they did a great job covering their tracks.

 

[pequa1]

Money talks

 

[Avenger]

Huh. I only surfcast Tobay beach and they simply aren't (or weren't) visible on the few days this fall that I fruitlessly tried for a striper. Was that photo taken from a boat ? Is that array aligned parallel with Lawnguyland or angled diagonally ?

My observation includes the fact that you're probably not kayaking offshore.

They're building the bases a few miles out, and they roughly parallel the south shore.

They also claim these monstrosities will not be visible from the beach, which they may not, but they're still a blight on the landscape.

And nobody who is accountable will acknowledge accountability.