Should NY have a Minimum Property Tax that homeowners have to pay ?

[Pangaroo]

This isn't political .
I look at my Long Island Tax bill and it's $14,000 a year and I look at my Chenango County Property Tax bill and it's under $700 a year ( both school and county/local tax) taxes on a property that's 11 1/4 acres and has a small cabin. I could live there full time and send 3 kids to school and my taxes would be the same.The guy next door lives up there full time and pays no more than $1500 property tax on 5 acres and a larger building . I see homes in Norwich, NY worth $100,000 - Beautiful homes that would easily be $500,000 on Long Island - and the taxes are $1500 a year. A homeowner there could send 12 kids to school and their taxes would be exactly the same. Take a look at the homes in Norwich , NY - beautiful homes in a college type town without the college.
No way does $1500 pay for the schools /local/county Govt. up there . They heavily use the NY State Police up there who do real policing up there . Down here they're ticket writers.
There should be an alternative minimum property tax every full time homeowner should be forced to pay. Obviously those benefiting with low taxes will never support that , the Courts would have to get involved. People are getting discriminated against based on where they live .

 

[Avenger]

Sure. More taxes.. That will fix everything.

You're kind of doing the Warren Buffet thing, complaining that you're not paying enough because your secretary pays more taxes than you instead of asking why your secretary's taxes are so high.

 

[OVERBORED]

Careful what you wish for.

That could all change once Mamdani chases wall Street out of NYC

 

[longcast]

Careful what you wish for.

That could all change once Mamdani chases wall Street out of NYC

Moving companies are already booked. Companies not so quietly leaving NYC and setting up in business friendly states.

 

[Pangaroo]

Sure. More taxes.. That will fix everything.

You're kind of doing the Warren Buffet thing, complaining that you're not paying enough because your secretary pays more taxes than you instead of asking why your secretary's taxes are so high.

The whole point of a minimum property tax Would be to even out the tax burden and get a tax reduction in downstate NY. More State Aid would come our way and school taxes would go down. My property taxes upstate are half school and half county and local, both tax bills are about the same amount. Down on Long Island my school tax is almost twice what the county and local tax bill is. And what's so irritating to see, my upstate NY tax bill has gone down . Down here they get around the tax cap by just increasing the assessed value. Cap the Property taxes Senior Citizens pay at half the normal tax.Seniors have paid taxes all the years they've lived in the house and have no children going to school.

 

[Kona]

The whole point of a minimum property tax Would be to even out the tax burden and get a tax reduction in downstate NY. More State Aid would come our way and school taxes would go down. My property taxes upstate are half school and half county and local, both tax bills are about the same amount. Down on Long Island my school tax is almost twice what the county and local tax bill is. And what's so irritating to see, my upstate NY tax bill has gone down . Down here they get around the tax cap by just increasing the assessed value. Cap the Property taxes Senior Citizens pay at half the normal tax.Seniors have paid taxes all the years they've lived in the house and have no children going to school.

No!!!! We all choose where we live and there are pros and cons to that choice . We’re assessed at 800,000 and pay 2,800 , Southampton school district . In Hampton Bays the same house would be assessed at 650,000 and pay around 6,500. Tuckahoe would assess at 800,000 and pay 10,000. Choices my good man

 

[Avenger]

Yeah, I'm still struggling to see how this makes things fair. We have Public sector unions here where our teachers and police are making six-figure salaries, and the population density is huge.

How us hammering the lower income/opportunity communities that don't demand so much from government is reasonable escapes me.

 

[Pangaroo]

State School aid plays a big role in how much a school district taxes are. Southampton school salaries are just as high as school salaries in Nassau County, what Southampton has more of are migrant workers who work the farms out there and the summer residents out in Southampton have lobbied the state over the years and gotten more state aid than they deserve. More School Aid is sent to less affluent districts and more affluent districts get less school aid. But not everybody in an affluent district is wealthy, they bought homes years ago when they were dirt cheap and the homes greatly appreciated over the years. Many of them are on fixed incomes. When I say Affluent I mean middle class Long Islander , not some North Shore millionaire. The State discriminates against people like that in middle class districts , the same person living in a less affluent district, with the same Pension, Social Security pays much less property tax. Don't tell me to move , it's my home .
All over upstate NY there's people paying less than $1500 property tax. Just doesn't seem fair, obviously their $1500 property tax aren't paying the school/county /local taxes up there. Somebody else is. Newsday had a big story about the dreadful school aid formula years ago. If the State School Aid was distributed evenly my taxes would be much less. 2/3 of my tax bill goes to the schools and 1/3 to the county/local government. Upstate NY , my property tax bill is half school and half county /local government.
You call the Police Upstate, more often than not you'll see a NYS Trooper or a State Conservation Officer show up. You'd never see them come to a home on Long Island to investigate a routine police matter.

 

[Avenger]

Well, you'll certainly get no disagreement from me that our socialist/progressivist run state distributes aid unfairly. And I wonder how those migrants are chipping in to fund the education of their children while they earn their money in Southampton. Price of living in a sanctuary state? Or maybe they won't be back next summer dragging on the system under the current administration. We'll see.

But, once again you're making the Warren Buffet argument. Maybe make the upstate residents hire and fund their own union police forces to even things out, with parity and arbitration as part of their contract negotiations.

Make them hire more schoot administrators and math and language coordinators to get their common-core state test scores up to justify their bigger share of the funding.

Point is, we should be looking more at how they keep things affordable up there instead of following the corrupt model we have here and finding more ways to take people's money to feed the insatiable monster of big government.