Saw these being used on a few Skinner videos as well as another Capt on youtube that fished in Smithtown Bay area. Saw them in J&H and looked and felt nice. The conventional had both spiral and regular wraps. Price point under $100. Anyone have them if so what are your thoughts on them?
Tsunami slow pitch rods...
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Nice sticks for the money. Also look at the brandy-new Daiwa Harrier Slow Pitch rods - the 130 gram model looks to be a killer stick
in the same price range. EIther way, for such modest coin ya can't go wrong. I'd still take a Shimano Trevala S over either of them, but
those rods go for another 79 buckeroos. You pays your monies and you takes your pick!
A very nice reel for these rods for short coin would be a Daiwa Fuego CT 100P - all over the place right now for under $70. Its got
the 5.8:1 ratio, and aluminum frame, BRASS gears (no chinzy-feeling aluminum gearing), and loses the dopey "T-wing" line guide
that the Tatulas all have. In fact its the same reel as the more expensive Tatula CT, other than the T-wing. A BEST buy right now!
I'm feelin' the need for a new Fuego CT for my smokin' nice 150 gram JW Ghost Hunter - it would be a great lite deep-water fluke jiggin' setup!
in the same price range. EIther way, for such modest coin ya can't go wrong. I'd still take a Shimano Trevala S over either of them, but
those rods go for another 79 buckeroos. You pays your monies and you takes your pick!
A very nice reel for these rods for short coin would be a Daiwa Fuego CT 100P - all over the place right now for under $70. Its got
the 5.8:1 ratio, and aluminum frame, BRASS gears (no chinzy-feeling aluminum gearing), and loses the dopey "T-wing" line guide
that the Tatulas all have. In fact its the same reel as the more expensive Tatula CT, other than the T-wing. A BEST buy right now!
I'm feelin' the need for a new Fuego CT for my smokin' nice 150 gram JW Ghost Hunter - it would be a great lite deep-water fluke jiggin' setup!
buddha162
Moderator
I've been trying to kill my Fuego CT in the yak for a year now...what a quality reel at 65ish shipped. I dunno how Daiwa does it!
Okay, so a slight alteration to my post above re: the Daiwa Fuego baitcaster. Though Daiwa did talk about releasing a 5.8:1 version of this reel, it never happened. They stuck with the 6.3:1 gearing as their "power" version. I guess in these days of 8:1 and even 9:1 reels, 6:1 is considered "low and slow." Given the ginormous-sized gears in today's modern baitcasters, that 6.3:1 ratio would probably get the job done for us.
Most of us. Most "normal" of us. Not me though. I am old school and want the most torque available. So what I will do is to shop the heck out of the reel, irrespective of the original ratio, and then order a set of the 5.8:1 brass Tatula CT 100P gears - available from Daiwa or, I would think, thetackletrap.com. The parts needed would be main gear: H99-2301 and pinion gear: H99-2201. They are a direct "drop-in" swap. Nothing fancy going on there at all.
Daiwa is pretty fair with their part prices, so I'm thinking the gears would run around $25 or so. So its still do-able at under $100 for a quality reel that will be banging fluke for you for the next 10 years, at least.
BTW, anyone that likes to tinker around with baitcasters should visit the Tackle Trap website, as they carry all sorts of reel upgrades, larger handles, different drag stars, and various other goodies that a reel ho would like.
I'll tell ya what, anyone that wants to make this happen, but is a little intimidated by the procedure - get the reel and the gears and I'll do the swaperoo for you - and give the reel a proper lube job for the SW fishing we do. Offer only open to members of this site, of course! :cool:
Most of us. Most "normal" of us. Not me though. I am old school and want the most torque available. So what I will do is to shop the heck out of the reel, irrespective of the original ratio, and then order a set of the 5.8:1 brass Tatula CT 100P gears - available from Daiwa or, I would think, thetackletrap.com. The parts needed would be main gear: H99-2301 and pinion gear: H99-2201. They are a direct "drop-in" swap. Nothing fancy going on there at all.
Daiwa is pretty fair with their part prices, so I'm thinking the gears would run around $25 or so. So its still do-able at under $100 for a quality reel that will be banging fluke for you for the next 10 years, at least.
BTW, anyone that likes to tinker around with baitcasters should visit the Tackle Trap website, as they carry all sorts of reel upgrades, larger handles, different drag stars, and various other goodies that a reel ho would like.
I'll tell ya what, anyone that wants to make this happen, but is a little intimidated by the procedure - get the reel and the gears and I'll do the swaperoo for you - and give the reel a proper lube job for the SW fishing we do. Offer only open to members of this site, of course! :cool:
The Daiwa Harrier seem very nice, I will be getting one soon. I had a tsunami 66 slow pitch conventional and did not like it, however I have the 7' tsunami slowpitch spinner and love it. I use the spinner for everything from throwing plugs for bass, jig fluke and blackfish and also used for jiggin bass during the fall run. Landed a 42lb bass on 3/4 oz buck tail on that rod with a Penn clash 3000. That fish on that set up is up there for one of my best catches.
Savvy18
Angler
Well Petey boy, you and I are gonna have to have a conversation about how I can get the new Tranx 200 to work for me as a tog reel. As far as I can tell, the lowest & slowest gear ratio for that reel is the 6.2:1 version. Not ideal for tangling with tog but certainly doable! However, if you think there's a way to drop lower gears into one, I'M ALL EARS!
Savvy - Currently I know of no other gear sets that are in the 5:1 range that can be dropped into that reel. POSSIBLY the 5.5:1 set from Shimano Japan's tiny Engetsu BB would fit, but that's about the extent of my knowledge on this subject. It would be a crap-shoot, because as of now I don't have a good feel for the Engetsu/Curado 70 platform's parts crossing over to the Curado K/Tranx 200's. Plus even if that is possible, those micro gears may not stand up to the nasty h/d fishing you do. I bet they wear out in a single season. I don't think the little Tranx was engineered with what you do in mind. You could do some Engetsu gearing research by reaching out to Jun @ Japantackle.com, or you could just go with the standard Tranx gears and see how it works out.
Just an aside, but most have never even seen a Tranx 200, let along something as esoteric as an Engetsu BB or the even more rare Shimano Stile. Both nice reels, but very shallow spools - both built on the Curado 70 platform, I believe. I've never actually seen either of these last two I mentioned, but I looked into them big time for our deep fluking needs. The problem with them is that the spools hold almost no line - but other than that, they would be nice indeed. The Curado 70 spool drops right into them, but that spool is only marginally better in the line length department.
Mr. Don - I have the MH Trevala S - which is much heavier than the ML, has a nice bend and kicks butt with up to 8oz jig rigs. But the next logical step for you would be the "M" which is a solid 4-5oz rod. Or you could go with the new Daiwa Harrier 130-gram rod. Or the Daiwa Proteus SS MH, which our buddy Frankie used to blast TWO double digit flatties off Brookalino this past season. Its his fav fluke stick. I have the H version of that rod - its pretty stout. Used it this past Summer on the deep hard stuff with 8oz-sinkered B/S rigs - it killed them on a really weird heavy current/flat calm day, but you have to like a stiffer blank to like that rod. It IS smokin' nice, for what it is.
Just an aside, but most have never even seen a Tranx 200, let along something as esoteric as an Engetsu BB or the even more rare Shimano Stile. Both nice reels, but very shallow spools - both built on the Curado 70 platform, I believe. I've never actually seen either of these last two I mentioned, but I looked into them big time for our deep fluking needs. The problem with them is that the spools hold almost no line - but other than that, they would be nice indeed. The Curado 70 spool drops right into them, but that spool is only marginally better in the line length department.
Mr. Don - I have the MH Trevala S - which is much heavier than the ML, has a nice bend and kicks butt with up to 8oz jig rigs. But the next logical step for you would be the "M" which is a solid 4-5oz rod. Or you could go with the new Daiwa Harrier 130-gram rod. Or the Daiwa Proteus SS MH, which our buddy Frankie used to blast TWO double digit flatties off Brookalino this past season. Its his fav fluke stick. I have the H version of that rod - its pretty stout. Used it this past Summer on the deep hard stuff with 8oz-sinkered B/S rigs - it killed them on a really weird heavy current/flat calm day, but you have to like a stiffer blank to like that rod. It IS smokin' nice, for what it is.
Savvy18
Angler
Donald, I can tell you from personal experience, because I had both the Shimano Trevala "M" that Pete mentioned AND I've had several versions of the Daiwa Proteus that I introduced to Frankie and he fell in love with. After owning a few versions (not sure of all the blank #'s) I settled in with the PRSS64MB as my favorite action. It's my favorite store-bought fluke jigger. I find it to be perfect when I need 3-4 ounces of lead - but I will certainly use it for lighter jigs as well, depending on conditions. I do most of my fluking with Frankie and at my insistence he tried my Proteus rod and fell in love. He has become very fond of the heavier version that I previously owned (think I gave that one to Lep if I'm not mistaken). Hopefully, he will join the thread and tell you what blank that is. I was actually using that heavier Proteus for chunking bass and black fishing too. Caught some bass up to 20 lbs. on it and that was a ton of fun! Never caught a tog over 5 lbs. on it though. Not for lack of effort. If you want, I can bring my Proteus on the 26th for you to investigate.
As for the Shimano Trevala. I owned that stick several seasons ago when fluking here to the west was actually still really good. We spent most of our time drifting in 20-40 feet of water and hardly ever used more than 1-3 ounce jigs. I bought that rod with the intent of using it when I needed to go to 4 ounce jigs. That wasn't happening often enough and I found myself leaving it home more often than I brought it out fishing. Eventually, I either sold it or gave it away. I forget.
My opinion is they are both great rods and will serve you well no matter which one you choose. It's a personal decision.
As for the Shimano Trevala. I owned that stick several seasons ago when fluking here to the west was actually still really good. We spent most of our time drifting in 20-40 feet of water and hardly ever used more than 1-3 ounce jigs. I bought that rod with the intent of using it when I needed to go to 4 ounce jigs. That wasn't happening often enough and I found myself leaving it home more often than I brought it out fishing. Eventually, I either sold it or gave it away. I forget.
My opinion is they are both great rods and will serve you well no matter which one you choose. It's a personal decision.
Thanks for the info Pete gonna bring down my 3000 Stradic Fb and put it on give it a few tugs.
Heads up on those Harrier sticks Tackledirect has them on sale for $49.
TFT
New Angler
The new Abu Revo 04 Beast 40 is going to be a contender with the new Tranx 200. 30lbs of drag.
5:8.1 gear ratio is available. Brass main gear with a keyed drag stack.
Nice piece was fished extensively in Nantucket this year on the monster fluke bite.
The Tsunami slow pitch rods are the rods to beat at that price point.
5:8.1 gear ratio is available. Brass main gear with a keyed drag stack.
Nice piece was fished extensively in Nantucket this year on the monster fluke bite.
The Tsunami slow pitch rods are the rods to beat at that price point.
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