Coronavirus

Gee - who would have thought...................


A little late to the party there Wader, look up 38 posts...
 
Another Covid Collateral Damage "Fun Fact"...

Doing onsite consulting for years, I'm painfully aware of this, BUT wondering how many NYA colleagues are aware of this. If you have any questions, get thee to a tax expert...


Here’s How Moving to Work Remotely Could Affect Your Taxes

The rules are complicated and vary by state, so accountants are advising taxpayers to keep track of how many days they spend working in each state.


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Working from home and out of town could lead to surprise state tax liabilities.Credit...Tony Cenicola/The New York Times

By Jenny Gross
Aug. 25, 2020, 11:10 a.m. ET

If you decided to ride out the pandemic at your out-of-state vacation house or with your parents in the suburbs, you may be in for an unpleasant reality: a hefty tax bill.

Given the complexity of state tax laws, accountants are advising their clients to track the number of days they spend working out of state. Some states impose income tax on people who work there for as little as a single day.

Even before the pandemic, conflicting state tax rules were creating issues for the increasing number of people who were working remotely, said Edward Zelinsky, a tax professor at Yeshiva University’s Cardozo School of Law.

“In the last six months, this has gone from a big problem to a humongous problem,” Mr. Zelinsky said. He knows from personal experience: He lives in Connecticut but works in New York and has paid tax on his New York-based salary to both states.
 
And now it's gone from a Wedding to a Jail and a Nursing Home, and not just down the street. This bugger LOVES to infect folks...

Millinocket wedding reception linked to 2 more outbreaks, at jail, nursing home
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Sixty people have been infected with COVID-19 since the Aug. 7 wedding, including at outbreaks at York County Jail and a nursing home in Madison – 124 miles apart.


A wedding reception in Millinocket that is so far connected to 60 cases of COVID-19 is now also linked to an outbreak at the York County Jail and a nursing home in Madison.

Dr. Nirav Shah, director of the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said cases from the Aug. 7 Millinocket wedding reception show how quickly and how far the virus can spread.

“COVID-19 can be the uninvited guest at every single wedding, party or event in Maine,” Shah said. “These recent examples show how aggressive and how opportunistic this virus is and how quickly it can move from one community to another.”

Gov. Janet Mills described the spread of the virus from the wedding reception as a spark from a campfire that ignites a dry forest.

“Sixty people are now associated with that one outbreak, and the impacts are widespread,” Mills said. One person who did not attend the reception but is a close contact of an attendee has died of COVID-19, the Maine CDC has confirmed.

Thirty-eight of the 60 cases were in people who did not attend the reception but were infected by someone who went to the wedding, including six cases at Maplecrest Rehabilitation Center in Madison. Twenty-two cases are from people who attended the reception.

Shah said a staff member at Maplecrest became infected from someone who was a close contact of a wedding attendee, causing the outbreak at the nursing home.

The York County Jail’s numbers are not yet reflected in the 60 cases, but Shah said a jail employee attended the Millinocket wedding reception. There are now 18 cases at the York County Jail, although it’s not clear yet how many can be traced to Millinocket.

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For the amount of people at each event seems Maine is in the lead

When the exhaust dust settles, I'll bet the Harleys will run over the lobstahs on this one...

Revved by Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, COVID-19 infections move fast, and far


By STEPHEN GROVES Associated Press August 25, 2020
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. — The hundreds of thousands of bikers who attended the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally may have departed western South Dakota, but public health departments in multiple states are trying to measure how much and how quickly the coronavirus spread in bars, tattoo shops and gatherings before people traveled home to nearly every state in the country.

From the city of Sturgis, which is conducting mass testing for its roughly 7,000 residents, to health departments in at least eight states, health officials are trying to track outbreaks from the 10-day rally which ended on Aug. 16. They face the task of tracking an invisible virus that spread among bar-hoppers and rallygoers, who then traveled to over half of the counties in the United States.

An analysis of anonymous cell phone data from Camber Systems, a firm that aggregates cell phone activity for health researchers, found that 61 percent of all the counties in the U.S. have been visited by someone who attended Sturgis, creating a travel hub that was comparable to a major U.S. city.

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People congregates at One-Eyed Jack’s Saloon during the 80th annual Sturgis Motorcycle Rally on Aug. 7 in Sturgis, South Dakota. The South Dakota Department of Health issued warnings that two people who had visited the bar may have transmitted COVID-19. Stephen Groves/Associated Press

“Imagine trying to do contact tracing for the entire city of (Washington), D.C., but you also know that you don’t have any distancing, or the distancing is very, very limited, the masking is limited,” said Navin Vembar, who co-founded Camber Systems. “It all adds up to a very dangerous situation for people all over the place. Contact tracing becomes dramatically difficult.”

State health departments have reported 103 cases from people in South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin Nebraska, Montana, North Dakota, Wyoming and Washington. Health officials in South Dakota have said they don’t know how many people were exposed and have issued public warnings of possible COVID-19 exposure at five businesses popular with bikers.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, a Republican, has defied calls to cancel large gatherings and opposes requirements to wear masks. She welcomed the event, which in previous years brought in about $800 million in tourist spending, according to the state’s Department of Tourism.

“I sat at a bar elbow-to-elbow with guys. No one was wearing masks,” said Stephen Sample, a rallygoer who rode back to Arizona last week.

He had visited a bar where health authorities later issued warnings – One-Eyed Jack’s Saloon – but said he had not had any COVID-19 symptoms. He discussed quarantining with his wife after he returned, but decided against it.

Other bikers said they had gotten tested for COVID-19 after they returned home and received negative results.

In a country where each state has been tasked with doing the heavy-lifting of responding to the pandemic, tracing every infection from the rally is virtually impossible. But the city of Sturgis is doing what it can to head off a local outbreak by holding mass testing for asymptomatic people.

The city, which is a sleepy tourist destination for most of the 355 days of the year outside the rally dates, was a reluctant host this year. After many residents objected to holding the rally during a pandemic, city leaders decided to pay for mass testing with money they had received as part of federal coronavirus relief funding.

About 850 people will be tested, according to Daniel Ainslie, the city manager.

On Monday morning, Linda Chaplin drove with her husband to get tested in the parking lot of the Sturgis Community Center. They had left town during the rally, but the crowds that came before and after concerned them.

While the results from the test will take a couple days to process, the region is already seeing an increase in coronavirus cases.

“For a long time, people would say, ‘Well, do you know anybody that has COVID?’ and I would say, ‘No, I don’t, but I’m watching the news,'” Chaplin said. “Now, I do know some people that we’ve heard have COVID.”

While Chaplin said the people she knows who have been infected had not participated in the rally, she said that many residents were relieved it’s over.

But like many places across the country, the city is trying to navigate the tension between health and economic concerns. Some residents, like Eunice Peck, were not concerned about the potential for an outbreak. She rented her home out to rallygoers as a way to make extra money. She had avoided the crowds that fill the city’s downtown and didn’t feel the need to get a test.

“It’s a very good thing for the town,” Peck said of the rally.

But events like Sturgis concern health experts, who see infections spreading without regard to city and state boundaries. Without a nationally-coordinated testing and tracing system, containing infections in a scenario like Sturgis is “almost impossible,” said Dr. Howard Koh, a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health who worked at the Department of Health and Human Services under former President Barack Obama.

“We would need a finely orchestrated national system and we are far from that,” he said. “We are really witnessing a 50-state effort with all of them going in different directions right now.”

Kris Ehresmann, infectious disease director at the Minnesota Department of Health, on Friday advised people to quarantine for two weeks if they attended the rally.

She said, “We’re expecting that we’re going to see many more cases associated with Sturgis.”
 
And now it's gone from a Wedding to a Jail and a Nursing Home, and not just down the street. This bugger LOVES to infect folks...

Millinocket wedding reception linked to 2 more outbreaks, at jail, nursing home
9 Comments
Sixty people have been infected with COVID-19 since the Aug. 7 wedding, including at outbreaks at York County Jail and a nursing home in Madison – 124 miles apart.


A wedding reception in Millinocket that is so far connected to 60 cases of COVID-19 is now also linked to an outbreak at the York County Jail and a nursing home in Madison.

Dr. Nirav Shah, director of the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention, said cases from the Aug. 7 Millinocket wedding reception show how quickly and how far the virus can spread.

“COVID-19 can be the uninvited guest at every single wedding, party or event in Maine,” Shah said. “These recent examples show how aggressive and how opportunistic this virus is and how quickly it can move from one community to another.”

Gov. Janet Mills described the spread of the virus from the wedding reception as a spark from a campfire that ignites a dry forest.

“Sixty people are now associated with that one outbreak, and the impacts are widespread,” Mills said. One person who did not attend the reception but is a close contact of an attendee has died of COVID-19, the Maine CDC has confirmed.

Thirty-eight of the 60 cases were in people who did not attend the reception but were infected by someone who went to the wedding, including six cases at Maplecrest Rehabilitation Center in Madison. Twenty-two cases are from people who attended the reception.

Shah said a staff member at Maplecrest became infected from someone who was a close contact of a wedding attendee, causing the outbreak at the nursing home.

The York County Jail’s numbers are not yet reflected in the 60 cases, but Shah said a jail employee attended the Millinocket wedding reception. There are now 18 cases at the York County Jail, although it’s not clear yet how many can be traced to Millinocket.

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The wedding that just continues to bring love and joy to others!!!
 
Shades of "If we don't test, we won't have any new cases..."

BTW, the "Admiral" title of Brett Giroir is a US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps title; the PHSCC commissions have naval titles. He went to Harvard, not Annapolis, and probably couldn't command a garbage scow...


WASHINGTON — Trump administration officials on Wednesday defended a new recommendation that people without Covid-19 symptoms abstain from testing, even as scientists warned that the policy could hobble an already weak federal response as schools reopen and a potential autumn wave looms.

The day after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued the revised guidance, there were conflicting reports on who was responsible. Two federal health officials said the shift came as a directive to the Atlanta-based C.D.C. from higher-ups in Washington at the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services.

Adm. Brett P. Giroir, the administration’s coronavirus testing czar, called it a “C.D.C. action,” written with input from the agency’s director, Dr. Robert R. Redfield. But he acknowledged that the revision came after a vigorous debate among members of the White House coronavirus task force — including its newest member, Dr. Scott W. Atlas, a frequent Fox News guest and a special adviser to President Trump.
 
Shades of "If we don't test, we won't have any new cases..."

BTW, the "Admiral" title of Brett Giroir is a US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps title; the PHSCC commissions have naval titles. He went to Harvard, not Annapolis, and probably couldn't command a garbage scow...


WASHINGTON — Trump administration officials on Wednesday defended a new recommendation that people without Covid-19 symptoms abstain from testing, even as scientists warned that the policy could hobble an already weak federal response as schools reopen and a potential autumn wave looms.

The day after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued the revised guidance, there were conflicting reports on who was responsible. Two federal health officials said the shift came as a directive to the Atlanta-based C.D.C. from higher-ups in Washington at the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services.

Adm. Brett P. Giroir, the administration’s coronavirus testing czar, called it a “C.D.C. action,” written with input from the agency’s director, Dr. Robert R. Redfield. But he acknowledged that the revision came after a vigorous debate among members of the White House coronavirus task force — including its newest member, Dr. Scott W. Atlas, a frequent Fox News guest and a special adviser to President Trump.

I recently (this week) tried to register for the test @ CVS & was told I did not qualify after filling out an on-line questionnaire at cvs.com as I was not displaying any systems & answering no to all of the questions.
 
I recently (this week) tried to register for the test @ CVS & was told I did not qualify after filling out an on-line questionnaire at cvs.com as I was not displaying any systems & answering no to all of the questions.

This new CDC guideline includes NOT testing people who had contact with people who were COVID positive people, so the stupidity of it is immense. Eliminate the testing of folks who were contacted by public health officials conducting contact tracing defies all logic. I'm guessing State CDCs will overrule this situation if they want their contact tracing to be effective.

In your case there still are limited tests so if you desire a test "just because". You will be rejected until test availability can support testing everyone or you lie on the questionnaire. Don't forget that this test will only tell you if you body currently has an active infection. It will NOT tell you if you got infected a day or two ago and it won't tell you if you have successfully beaten off an infection within the past week or so.

You can get the antibody test and not lie on the questions, but that will only tell if you've beaten off an infection as early as a week or so ago, but good for the entire pandemic duration in 2020.
 
Don't forget that this test will only tell you if you body currently has an active infection. It will NOT tell you if you got infected a day or two ago and it won't tell you if you have successfully beaten off an infection within the past week or so.

It's hard to believe, but it's like this virus outsmarts us at every turn.
 
Don't forget that this test will only tell you if you body currently has an active infection. It will NOT tell you if you got infected a day or two ago and it won't tell you if you have successfully beaten off an infection within the past week or so.

It's hard to believe, but it's like this virus outsmarts us at every turn.

This has NOTHING to do with politics or the virus outsmarting us. It's all about the different technologies used in the test being run. You don't have a single screwdriver in your toolbox, do you? When you grab a straight head screwdriver, but find out you need a Phillips Head screwdriver, do you claim the screw fooled you? Diagnostic assays are tools and a well-stocked tool box is just as important for medical personnel as well as mechanics.

I've explained this multiple times here and the COVID-19 Science thread, but here's a quick summary. The initial "Are you sick tests being used used to only bet Nucleic Acid Tests, but now more Antigen Tests are out there, and they are being used also.

I'll expand on the use of Antibody testing a bit, as time passes there will be more different Antibody (Ab) tests. Some will measure Immunoglobulin G (IgG), some IgGM and maybe even IgA and IgE. G & M are the biggies and if you look at both separately you'll get an idea of the stage of infection in that your body raises IgM first, IgG later. There maybe another future blood (serology) test, a test for Antigen (Ag), besides the current diagnostic, Nucleic Acid Test (NAT). As these markers wax and wane, doctors get a better idea of what's going on in your body.

Here's a table to help you understand this, days are variable, numbers below just representative based on other viral infections...

INFECTION STAGETIMENAT TESTAg TESTIgM TESTIgG TEST
NEVER INFECTEDN/ANEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INITIAL INFECTION~ 0 - 2 DaysNEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
EARLY INFECTION~ 2 - 5 DaysPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION~ 3 - 7 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION W/ANTIBODY ACTIVATION~ 7 - 14 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION W/FULL Ab RELEASE~ 12 - 30 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE
RESOLVED RECENT INFECTION~ 1 - 2 MonthsNEGATIVENEGATIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE
PAST, RESOLVED INFECTION> 2 - ? Months**NEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVEPOSITIVE


** - How long IgG persists and is this remaining IgG is effective in fighting off another infection is the billion dollar question right now, along with what specific IgG - Antigen reaction is key to resolving an infection. This is the heart of vaccine work at this moment.
 
This has NOTHING to do with politics or the virus outsmarting us. It's all about the different technologies used in the test being run. You don't have a single screwdriver in your toolbox, do you? When you grab a straight head screwdriver, but find out you need a Phillips Head screwdriver, do you claim the screw fooled you? Diagnostic assays are tools and a well-stocked tool box is just as important for medical personnel as well as mechanics.

I've explained this multiple times here and the COVID-19 Science thread, but here's a quick summary. The initial "Are you sick tests being used used to only bet Nucleic Acid Tests, but now more Antigen Tests are out there, and they are being used also.

I'll expand on the use of Antibody testing a bit, as time passes there will be more different Antibody (Ab) tests. Some will measure Immunoglobulin G (IgG), some IgGM and maybe even IgA and IgE. G & M are the biggies and if you look at both separately you'll get an idea of the stage of infection in that your body raises IgM first, IgG later. There maybe another future blood (serology) test, a test for Antigen (Ag), besides the current diagnostic, Nucleic Acid Test (NAT). As these markers wax and wane, doctors get a better idea of what's going on in your body.

Here's a table to help you understand this, days are variable, numbers below just representative based on other viral infections...


INFECTION STAGETIMENAT TESTAg TESTIgM TESTIgG TEST
NEVER INFECTEDN/ANEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INITIAL INFECTION~ 0 - 2 DaysNEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
EARLY INFECTION~ 2 - 5 DaysPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION~ 3 - 7 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION W/ANTIBODY ACTIVATION~ 7 - 14 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVENEGATIVENEGATIVE
INFECTION W/FULL Ab RELEASE~ 12 - 30 DaysPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE
RESOLVED RECENT INFECTION~ 1 - 2 MonthsNEGATIVENEGATIVEPOSITIVEPOSITIVE
PAST, RESOLVED INFECTION> 2 - ? Months**NEGATIVENEGATIVENEGATIVEPOSITIVE


** - How long IgG persists and is this remaining IgG is effective in fighting off another infection is the billion dollar question right now, along with what specific IgG - Antigen reaction is key to resolving an infection. This is the heart of vaccine work at this moment.
THANK YOU!!!!
 
Not blaming anyone! We are in it, let's figure out how to get out. I figured out how to defend and take care of my family without blame. Give it a shot.

I guess you could not help yourself taking another stab at the same sorry comment from earlier today!
 
Not blaming anyone! We are in it, let's figure out how to get out. I figured out how to defend and take care of my family without blame. Give it a shot.

I guess you could not help yourself taking another stab at the same sorry comment from earlier today!
Look I really dont want to get into a pissing match with you so go on with your agenda and I will go on with mine.
 
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