Coronavirus

Entire military is getting vaccinated first. So we’ll be taken over by Mexico before your neighbors eyes fall out.

Few days ago one of you wrote “lines are around building at City MD” reason being they have the only rapid test. Primary’s are now “Wellness Doctors” you won’t find one that will even see a sick patient. You have to be positive to get paid for being out for the time having COVID that all are entitled to. I have it myself. Had it for a week before I thought I was even sick. Waited three hours Monday in the rain and wind with only other choice the ER. That’s why the rush at hospitals IMO. There’s a monopoly going on with the test. The 5-7 day tests are useless to anyone.
Still don’t get the fear. I had every flu symptom and pneumonia. Seconded time I’ve had pneumonia, first time almost put me underground. Fear that not the COVID. Anyway Antibiotics did there job with lungs and glorified vitamins for the rest. It’s all about gone now and it’s Thursday. Next week I’ll be back to work like it never happened and still not wearing a fucking face diaper.
 
Don't sweat it Don
"they" already know already know everything they need to know about all of us by the cellphones we carry with at all times and the nonsense we yammer about on social media sites like this ???
 
Entire military is getting vaccinated first. So we’ll be taken over by Mexico before your neighbors eyes fall out.

Few days ago one of you wrote “lines are around building at City MD” reason being they have the only rapid test. Primary’s are now “Wellness Doctors” you won’t find one that will even see a sick patient. You have to be positive to get paid for being out for the time having COVID that all are entitled to. I have it myself. Had it for a week before I thought I was even sick. Waited three hours Monday in the rain and wind with only other choice the ER. That’s why the rush at hospitals IMO. There’s a monopoly going on with the test. The 5-7 day tests are useless to anyone.
Still don’t get the fear. I had every flu symptom and pneumonia. Seconded time I’ve had pneumonia, first time almost put me underground. Fear that not the COVID. Anyway Antibiotics did there job with lungs and glorified vitamins for the rest. It’s all about gone now and it’s Thursday. Next week I’ll be back to work like it never happened and still not wearing a fucking face diaper.
How do you think you caught it ?
 
Don't sweat it Don
"they" already know already know everything they need to know about all of us by the cellphones we carry with at all times and the nonsense we yammer about on social media sites like this ???
True that Chinacat. This just could go way too far though.
 
FU Biden and Fauci. I will not were a mask in the fresh air, or in a chair, or in my hair.....Commie muther f'ers.
>>>>>>>
Biden described his coronavirus plans as a balance between ensuring that Americans believe the vaccine is safe and instituting a number of plans that will curb the spread of the virus without shutting down the economy.

Specifically:

“On the first day I'm inaugurated to say I'm going to ask the public for 100 days to mask.”
So, no mandate there then... just a good old-fashioned "ask" from the Commander-in-Chief.

Biden went on:

"Just 100 days to mask, not forever. 100 days. And I think we'll see a significant reduction." Biden said.
Apparently Biden is suddenly an expert on epidemiology and has chosen to ignore the "science" (over-ruling the science from a recent Danish study on mask's uselessness).




Danish Study on Mask Wearing
 
Talking to my sister tonight. They are locking down LA and now all of California for 3 weeks. Shutting everything down.
Masks are mandated outside and residents deemed non essential are encouraged to stay at home.
She's a lawyer in LA.
10.4 million residents in LA county alone, 2500 people sick and only approximately 300 People in the ICU......
so lets shut the whole state down!
Commie F'in bastards.
 
Entire military is getting vaccinated first. So we’ll be taken over by Mexico before your neighbors eyes fall out.

Few days ago one of you wrote “lines are around building at City MD” reason being they have the only rapid test. Primary’s are now “Wellness Doctors” you won’t find one that will even see a sick patient. You have to be positive to get paid for being out for the time having COVID that all are entitled to. I have it myself. Had it for a week before I thought I was even sick. Waited three hours Monday in the rain and wind with only other choice the ER. That’s why the rush at hospitals IMO. There’s a monopoly going on with the test. The 5-7 day tests are useless to anyone.
Still don’t get the fear. I had every flu symptom and pneumonia. Seconded time I’ve had pneumonia, first time almost put me underground. Fear that not the COVID. Anyway Antibiotics did there job with lungs and glorified vitamins for the rest. It’s all about gone now and it’s Thursday. Next week I’ll be back to work like it never happened and still not wearing a fucking face diaper.
Glad to see you beat the odds and from what you are saying, will move forward without any complications.
Your opinion regarding hospitals, is again your opinion. All I will tell you is about the conversations I have had with physicians in very specialized disciplines, being put into service and intubating folks at a rapid pace back in the beginning of this thing as beds ran out, and medical personnel could not keep up with the onslaught. Oh, and not just folks over 80. Not people coming for tests. I'll stop there.
 
Oh and to MTB's question...Not a snowballs chance I am getting Vaxxed up with this unproven rushed through clinicals, into production nightmare they call a vaccine. I have good genes and immunity. Don't need anything messing with my natural state.

What I am going to allow with my school age daughter deciding to let her take the vaxx or not is the real dilemma.
 
Boy, MTB you should get the golden ladle award for $#it stirring.
that was not my intention with that question......when it is I can do much better than that ya know

Anyway we need 75% vaccinated......looks like a NO
Everyone wears a mask ....nah!!

So this thing continues and we get total shutdowns since the medical facilities are over whelmed...and maybe it goes away after 2 years like the spanish flu did all by itself

Does the no mask...no vac crowd have a solution?
 

Former presidents say they would get vaccine publicly to boost confidence​

pressherald.com/2020/12/03/obama-clinton-bush-say-they-would-get-vaccine-publicly-to-boost-confidence/

By WILL WEISSERTAssociated PressDecember 3, 2020
WASHINGTON — Three former presidents say they’d be willing to take a coronavirus vaccine publicly, once one becomes available, to encourage all Americans to get inoculated against a disease that has already killed more than 275,000 people nationwide.

Former President Barack Obama said during an episode of SiriusXM’s “The Joe Madison Show” that aired Thursday, “I promise you that when it’s been made for people who are less at risk, I will be taking it.”

“I may end up taking it on TV or having it filmed,” Obama added, “just so that people know that I trust this science.”

That may not be possible for the foreseeable future, though. The Food and Drug Administration will consider authorizing emergency use of two vaccines made by Pfizer and Moderna later this month, but current estimates project that no more than 20 million doses of each vaccine will be available by the end of this year. Each product also requires two doses, meaning shots will be rationed in the early stages.

Health care workers and nursing home residents should be at the front of the line, the influential Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices said earlier this week. That encompasses about 24 million people out of a U.S. population of around 330 million.

Still, former President Bill Clinton would “definitely” be willing to get a vaccine, as soon as one is “available to him, based on the priorities determined by public health officials,” spokesman Angel Ureña said.

“And he will do it in a public setting if it will help urge all Americans to do the same,” Ureña said in a statement Thursday.
Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush
Then-President Barack Obama, center, walks out of the Oval Office of the White House with former Presidents Bill Clinton, left, and George W. Bush to deliver remarks in the Rose Garden in January 2010. The three former presidents say they’d be willing to take a coronavirus vaccine publicly, once one becomes available, to encourage all Americans to get inoculated against a disease that has already killed more than 273,000 people nationwide. AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais, File

Ureña declined to answer a question on whether Clinton’s team has been in touch with advisers to other former presidents about perhaps setting up a joint public immunization session whenever that might be possible.

Former President George W. Bush’s chief of staff, Freddy Ford, told CNN that the former president recently asked him to meet with Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, and Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, to let them “know that, when the time is right, he wants to do what he can to help encourage his fellow citizens to get vaccinated.”

“First, the vaccines need to be deemed safe and administered to the priority populations,” Ford told the network. “Then, President Bush will get in line for his, and will gladly do so on camera.”

The only other living former president, Jimmy Carter, who at 96 is the oldest ex-president in U.S. history, also encouraged people to get vaccinated, but stopped short of pledging to do so himself in public.

“Jimmy Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, said today that they are in full support of COVID-19 vaccine efforts and encourage everyone who is eligible to get immunized as soon as it becomes available in their communities,” the Carter Center said in a statement.

Still, the overlapping sentiments by the other three former presidents come as the U.S. recorded more than 3,100 COVID-19 deaths in a single day, far outpacing the record set last spring. The number of Americans hospitalized with the virus has eclipsed 100,000 for the first time, and new cases have begun topping 200,000 a day, according to figures released Thursday.

President Trump was asked this summer if he would consider being the first to take the vaccine to send a message that it was safe. The president said that going first could also lead to accusations that he was being selfish, but that he would take it if recommended to do so.

“I would absolutely, if they wanted me to, if they thought it was right. I would take it first or I would take it last,” Trump said during a July interview with Fox News. “You know that if I take it first, I will be, either way, I lose on that one, right?”

Making the president among the first to get the vaccine could indeed be controversial, given that he tested positive for the virus so recently. Vaccine trials excluded volunteers who had diagnosed infections – including those who had gotten treatment for the virus, which Trump had in October.

During a roundtable Thursday in Memphis, Tennessee, with Vice President Mike Pence to discuss vaccine distribution, Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said the U.S. must restore national trust in immunizations.

“There’s been a great deal of challenge over the years of this growing concern of what I call ‘vaccine hesitancy,'” Redfield said. “It’s really sad as an infectious disease physician to see many people choose to leave vaccination on the shelf for themselves, their family and the community.”

Asked if he’d personally be taking a vaccine, Pence gave a thumb’s up and replied, “Absolutely.”

President-elect Joe Biden said months ago that he’d take “a vaccine tomorrow” as soon as doing so was possible.

Biden hasn’t commented on the prospect of undergoing immunization publicly to inspire confidence. He warned on Wednesday that the spread of the coronavirus pandemic over the next two months could kill as many as 250,000 more people, though he didn’t offer details to back up his assessment, which is far bleaker than projections by experts.

“You cannot be traveling during these holidays,” Biden told the public “as much as you want to.”
 
Avenger, agree 100% about not being first. But it's actually not a problem. If you are anything like me, we really have no problem with waiting since we will probably be in group 3. Over 60, but no underlying problems, not a front line worker, the earliest we will be is group 3. That means there will be something like 100k people ahead of us on line. At that point we should know if anyone's eyeballs fell out.

That would probably put me in group 4 then. I'm not over sixty, I'm just that crochety. So I'll keep tabs on when group 3 comes out. If you suddenly stop posting because you can't see the monitor I'll wait a little longer.
 
that was not my intention with that question......when it is I can do much better than that ya know

Anyway we need 75% vaccinated......looks like a NO
Everyone wears a mask ....nah!!

So this thing continues and we get total shutdowns since the medical facilities are over whelmed...and maybe it goes away after 2 years like the spanish flu did all by itself

Does the no mask...no vac crowd have a solution?

True, I did expect a lot more pushback. But hey, at least you tried.
 
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

From today's NYTimes: Europe’s Deadly Second Wave: How Did It Happen Again?

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Europe’s Deadly Second Wave:
How Did It Happen Again?​



The few countries that did move fast saw great benefits. Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway have kept the second wave at bay. Ireland has recorded fewer than 300 deaths since September 1, just 15 percent of its first wave total, after a tough and early second national lockdown.

How deaths in the first wave compare to the second​

PEAK DEATHS PER 100,000 PEOPLE
COUNTRYFIRST WAVESECOND WAVESECOND WAVE AS % OF FIRST
Daily deaths exceeded spring peak
Czech Republic0.101.972,011%
Greece0.050.931,950%
Croatia0.081.451,733%
Poland0.081.331,622%
Slovakia0.030.471,483%
Bulgaria0.141.971,428%
Slovenia0.192.341,207%
Hungary0.141.421,031%
Liechtenstein0.383.01800%
Malta0.090.71800%
Lithuania0.080.58713%
Latvia0.060.35588%
Austria0.241.21495%
Romania0.230.85367%
Iceland0.160.44275%
Portugal0.310.75241%
Cyprus0.080.14171%
Luxembourg0.731.18161%
Estonia0.210.29142%
Germany0.330.41123%
Daily deaths more than 30% of spring peak
Italy1.361.2189%
Belgium2.921.9868%
France1.640.9357%
Netherlands0.890.4954%
Spain1.911.0052%
United Kingdom1.420.7352%
Denmark0.280.1243%
Sweden1.050.4240%
Norway0.160.0638%
Daily deaths below 30% of spring peak
Finland0.250.0519%
Ireland1.450.149%
 
How do you think you caught it ?
Still not sure. Someone sneezed on the cups at 7-11 or out the window in front of me on Northern State at 4 am. One of my guys from the job came down with it last week also. We haven’t seen each other in a month. Who knows.
Don’t give your cell number either if you get sick. Health dept starts harassing the next day. I taped a message telling all to “Fuck Off I’m Not Talking”. They spoof numbers like the telemarketers. Caller ID may say Schenectady or Greenport leaving same message. They even taped a letter to my door. They can all go fuck themselves.
 
Yes, but years ago. Is that the one where they poison the incoming cocaine? (always thought we actually should. I could deal with losing half of Congress and 90% of Hollywood.)

Or is that the one with the terrorists and the ebola like virus ?
 
I myself will be first on line. Phase 3 here, counting on adverse reactions if any, being detected on Phase 1 and 2, <grin>

I fully believe that in some cases by later next year we will be asked to "show us your paperz!" to enter certain events, travel etc. Being retired, with pensions every month, with hobbies that are mainly solitary, this whole thing has been pretty easy for us so far. Sure we cancelled a vacation in September, miss the Bronz zoo, and haven't seen my inlaws since February but never missed a day shooting (today, in fact), kayaking, swimming, fishing, hunting, gardening etc. Now if I were in my low 40s, still working, with my sons in grade school, TOTALLY different story ! I feel for you guys and can't really imagine how crappy things must be.
 
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