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I fully believe that. The Brit was up in Hudson NY in December taking care of his "other business". When he returned - about a week later - he was sick as a dog - he said he never felt anything like what he had. High fever, coughing, difficulty breathing. Lasted for about two weeks.

He pretty much was bedridden during the whole thing. Ended up in the Emergency room at the local hospital but of course no one had heard of COVID at that time.

Started hearing rumors of COVID about a week or two after he recovered.
 
I fully believe that. The Brit was up in Hudson NY in December taking care of his "other business". When he returned - about a week later - he was sick as a dog - he said he never felt anything like what he had. High fever, coughing, difficulty breathing. Lasted for about two weeks.

He pretty much was bedridden during the whole thing. Ended up in the Emergency room at the local hospital but of course no one had heard of COVID at that time.

Started hearing rumors of COVID about a week or two after he recovered.
I felt like crap for a week straight in Feb. High fever and chills for 2-3 days straight. Cough, headache, a little breathing issue if I remember correctly. Quarantined in the basement, before that was even a thing, for about a week. I went for an antibody test in April or may and it came back negative. Could have been out of my system by then. But who knows.
 
I felt like crap for a week straight in Feb. High fever and chills for 2-3 days straight. Cough, headache, a little breathing issue if I remember correctly. Quarantined in the basement, before that was even a thing, for about a week. I went for an antibody test in April or may and it came back negative. Could have been out of my system by then. But who knows.

Antibody test in April/May for symptoms in Feb was the correct usage. If it was COVID, you would have had a positive Ab result. Unlike the diagnostic tests like PCR or antigen, which go negative shortly after your immune system has cleared the infection, antibodies will linger for many months, possibly years.

FWIW, the Admiral and I both had horrible bronchial infections in Feb/Mar and when antibody tested in the May timeframe, we both came back negative. There must have been some "wicked bad" non-COVID bug running around then.
 
Another COVID FWIW, but yesterday, for the first time in 10 months, we actually had a meal in a restaurant. We were up in Belfast scouting some real estate for a friend and then went into town to do some shopping, as they have many unique shops there.

When we passed one of our favorite restaurants, there was only 1 couple in there, an old, airy building with 16 ft ceilings, so we figured WTH and went in. There was some serious soul-searching involved, but we figured if this place/situation didn't make "the cut", nothing would. It was so nice being served well-prepared and unique food. It was the first time since Feb 10 that we ate a dinner out, a truly sad, but necessary privation in these crazy times.

Next on my "Must Do" list is get out with Mud for one of our monthly outings, but that won't be until sometime in Spring, 2021 after both of us have been vaccinated.
 
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Congratulations Long Island. You're now competing with some Brooklyn religious groups for this year's Darwin Awards...

Police Break Up 400-Person Party at Long Island Mansion​

Flouting the state’s pandemic restrictions on gatherings, hundreds of people flocked to a castle-like estate in Brookhaven on Sunday night.

Police say a gated mansion in Brookhaven, on Long Island, was the scene of a massive party that flouted restrictions on gatherings.

Police say a gated mansion in Brookhaven, on Long Island, was the scene of a massive party that flouted restrictions on gatherings. Credit...Google Earth

The first calls that police received about an enormous gathering at a castle-like mansion on Long Island came shortly after midnight on Monday, the authorities said. Neighbors reported a suspicious number of cars racing around and vehicles parked bumper-to-bumper on their normally quiet streets.

As more reports came in — including one from the home’s owner, who had rented his property to a guest on Airbnb and discovered the gathering while watching his security cameras from afar — the police went to the house, a lavish stone building in Brookhaven, N.Y.

When they arrived, they found as many as 400 people gathered for a party, officials said, in an explicit violation of New York State’s limits on private gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic.

The party, held at a gated luxury home owned by a one-time rapper who once hoped to be New York City’s nightlife mayor, was the latest in a string of illicit gatherings in Suffolk County on Long Island. Persuading people to obey state directives and public health guidance has proved challenging for officials, even as a surge of coronavirus cases sweeps across New York.

“There’s no question that an event like this is a public health issue,” said Chief Stuart Cameron of the Suffolk County Police Department at a news conference on Tuesday.

For months, elected leaders and officials across the United States have been pleading with residents to avoid indoor gatherings over concern that they had been contributing to an uptick in cases this fall.

Though epidemiologists have been less certain that such get-togethers are the source of infections, a number of state and local governments have established restrictions to limit them.

Last month, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo imposed a 10-person limit on all private gatherings in the state. Though a number of sheriffs said they would not enforce the order, especially on Thanksgiving, Suffolk County’s executive said his county’s police department planned to uphold it.

For months, Suffolk County, at the eastern end of Long Island, has made news for gatherings both large and small. In July, when the state had just emerged from a crushing wave of the pandemic, more than 2,150 people attended a charity concert featuring the D.J. duo the Chainsmokers. In October, county officials announced a number of parties that they called “superspreader events,” including a gathering of 200 to 300 people in Farmingville, N.Y.

The problem is not exclusive to Long Island. The New York City sheriff’s office has broken up large parties every weekend over the last several months.

More than 2,150 people attended a Chainsmokers charity concert in Southampton, N.Y., in July.

More than 2,150 people attended a Chainsmokers charity concert in Southampton, N.Y., in July. Credit...Rich Schineller via Associated Press

“I just think there are some people who, despite all of the warnings and the damage that we’ve seen from this virus, don’t think they need to follow the rules and aren’t concerned about others,” Steve Bellone, the Suffolk County executive, said in an interview on Wednesday.

Mr. Bellone added that despite the attention paid to such large events, small gatherings had actually been driving an uptick in cases in Suffolk County since Halloween. Such get-togethers have become the predominant source of spread in the county, he said.

Over the last month, Suffolk has seen its positive test rate move from 1.2 percent to 5.2 percent, Mr. Bellone said. Hospitalizations rose from 42 on Nov. 1 to 248 on Dec. 1, and Mr. Bellone said the numbers had started to jump again after Thanksgiving.

The party in Brookhaven particularly stood out, he said, both because of its size and because it was hosted not by the homeowner, but by an out-of-state visitor who had rented the house on Airbnb.

Officials were still trying to identify the person responsible for the party, who they believed was from New Jersey, the police said. Investigators did not yet know if the person who rented the Airbnb was the person who threw the party.

A Suffolk County police spokeswoman said that charges had not yet been filed on Wednesday morning.

Officials believed the party was a “high-end” affair, with most attendees in their 30s or 40s, Mr. Bellone said. The police who reported to the scene said that many of the cars parked nearby were luxury vehicles or sports cars.

When the police arrived at the home, a 5,000-square-foot stone building situated on nearly 10 acres on a dead-end street, the party’s attendees followed orders to disperse, Chief Cameron said.

But because of the sheer number of people in attendance, the police were on the scene for close to four hours as they tried to clear every guest, he said. The department’s aviation, emergency service and canine units were all involved, he said.

Despite violating the ban on gatherings, none of the party’s attendees received summonses, the police spokeswoman said.

Officials were also not planning to file any charges against the homeowner, who Chief Cameron said had cooperated with the investigation and had offered proof that he had told the person renting the house about the gathering limit.

The owner became aware of the gathering through cameras that were installed at the house, Mr. Bellone said. One of the guests appeared to have tried to disable the cameras so the party would escape notice, he added.

An Airbnb listing for the house appeared to have been removed on Wednesday morning. But a similar listing on Tripadvisor advertised the home as an “absolutely majestic castle” with 11-foot ceilings and a 15-foot bar. The rate for a three-night stay is $1,872, and the listing notes that any parties and events must be discussed in advance.

The police did not name the home’s owner, but tax records identified him as Matthew Demar.

Mr. Demar did not immediately respond to a request for comment. According to Newsday, he was a rapper in the 1990s who used the name Kid Panic and is a former radio DJ. In 2016, he released a song in support of President Trump titled “Make America Great Again,” Newsday reported.

A video for the song, which has more than 200,000 views on YouTube, shows Mr. Demar dressed in a suit and rapping in various places around New York City. The following year, Mr. Demar appeared in a YouTube video expressing his interest in becoming New York City’s nightlife mayor, in which he called himself one of the first white rappers.

The home, at 51 Hawkins Lane, is currently listed for sale at $949,999 and has repeatedly moved on and off the market since 2014, according to Zillow. Mr. Demar purchased it in 2009, property records show.
 
Congratulations Long Island. You're now competing with some Brooklyn religious groups for this year's Darwin Awards...

Police Break Up 400-Person Party at Long Island Mansion​

Flouting the state’s pandemic restrictions on gatherings, hundreds of people flocked to a castle-like estate in Brookhaven on Sunday night.

Police say a gated mansion in Brookhaven, on Long Island, was the scene of a massive party that flouted restrictions on gatherings.

Police say a gated mansion in Brookhaven, on Long Island, was the scene of a massive party that flouted restrictions on gatherings. Credit...Google Earth

The first calls that police received about an enormous gathering at a castle-like mansion on Long Island came shortly after midnight on Monday, the authorities said. Neighbors reported a suspicious number of cars racing around and vehicles parked bumper-to-bumper on their normally quiet streets.

As more reports came in — including one from the home’s owner, who had rented his property to a guest on Airbnb and discovered the gathering while watching his security cameras from afar — the police went to the house, a lavish stone building in Brookhaven, N.Y.

When they arrived, they found as many as 400 people gathered for a party, officials said, in an explicit violation of New York State’s limits on private gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic.

The party, held at a gated luxury home owned by a one-time rapper who once hoped to be New York City’s nightlife mayor, was the latest in a string of illicit gatherings in Suffolk County on Long Island. Persuading people to obey state directives and public health guidance has proved challenging for officials, even as a surge of coronavirus cases sweeps across New York.

“There’s no question that an event like this is a public health issue,” said Chief Stuart Cameron of the Suffolk County Police Department at a news conference on Tuesday.

For months, elected leaders and officials across the United States have been pleading with residents to avoid indoor gatherings over concern that they had been contributing to an uptick in cases this fall.

Though epidemiologists have been less certain that such get-togethers are the source of infections, a number of state and local governments have established restrictions to limit them.

Last month, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo imposed a 10-person limit on all private gatherings in the state. Though a number of sheriffs said they would not enforce the order, especially on Thanksgiving, Suffolk County’s executive said his county’s police department planned to uphold it.

For months, Suffolk County, at the eastern end of Long Island, has made news for gatherings both large and small. In July, when the state had just emerged from a crushing wave of the pandemic, more than 2,150 people attended a charity concert featuring the D.J. duo the Chainsmokers. In October, county officials announced a number of parties that they called “superspreader events,” including a gathering of 200 to 300 people in Farmingville, N.Y.

The problem is not exclusive to Long Island. The New York City sheriff’s office has broken up large parties every weekend over the last several months.

More than 2,150 people attended a Chainsmokers charity concert in Southampton, N.Y., in July.

More than 2,150 people attended a Chainsmokers charity concert in Southampton, N.Y., in July. Credit...Rich Schineller via Associated Press

“I just think there are some people who, despite all of the warnings and the damage that we’ve seen from this virus, don’t think they need to follow the rules and aren’t concerned about others,” Steve Bellone, the Suffolk County executive, said in an interview on Wednesday.

Mr. Bellone added that despite the attention paid to such large events, small gatherings had actually been driving an uptick in cases in Suffolk County since Halloween. Such get-togethers have become the predominant source of spread in the county, he said.

Over the last month, Suffolk has seen its positive test rate move from 1.2 percent to 5.2 percent, Mr. Bellone said. Hospitalizations rose from 42 on Nov. 1 to 248 on Dec. 1, and Mr. Bellone said the numbers had started to jump again after Thanksgiving.

The party in Brookhaven particularly stood out, he said, both because of its size and because it was hosted not by the homeowner, but by an out-of-state visitor who had rented the house on Airbnb.

Officials were still trying to identify the person responsible for the party, who they believed was from New Jersey, the police said. Investigators did not yet know if the person who rented the Airbnb was the person who threw the party.

A Suffolk County police spokeswoman said that charges had not yet been filed on Wednesday morning.

Officials believed the party was a “high-end” affair, with most attendees in their 30s or 40s, Mr. Bellone said. The police who reported to the scene said that many of the cars parked nearby were luxury vehicles or sports cars.

When the police arrived at the home, a 5,000-square-foot stone building situated on nearly 10 acres on a dead-end street, the party’s attendees followed orders to disperse, Chief Cameron said.

But because of the sheer number of people in attendance, the police were on the scene for close to four hours as they tried to clear every guest, he said. The department’s aviation, emergency service and canine units were all involved, he said.

Despite violating the ban on gatherings, none of the party’s attendees received summonses, the police spokeswoman said.

Officials were also not planning to file any charges against the homeowner, who Chief Cameron said had cooperated with the investigation and had offered proof that he had told the person renting the house about the gathering limit.

The owner became aware of the gathering through cameras that were installed at the house, Mr. Bellone said. One of the guests appeared to have tried to disable the cameras so the party would escape notice, he added.

An Airbnb listing for the house appeared to have been removed on Wednesday morning. But a similar listing on Tripadvisor advertised the home as an “absolutely majestic castle” with 11-foot ceilings and a 15-foot bar. The rate for a three-night stay is $1,872, and the listing notes that any parties and events must be discussed in advance.

The police did not name the home’s owner, but tax records identified him as Matthew Demar.

Mr. Demar did not immediately respond to a request for comment. According to Newsday, he was a rapper in the 1990s who used the name Kid Panic and is a former radio DJ. In 2016, he released a song in support of President Trump titled “Make America Great Again,” Newsday reported.

A video for the song, which has more than 200,000 views on YouTube, shows Mr. Demar dressed in a suit and rapping in various places around New York City. The following year, Mr. Demar appeared in a YouTube video expressing his interest in becoming New York City’s nightlife mayor, in which he called himself one of the first white rappers.

The home, at 51 Hawkins Lane, is currently listed for sale at $949,999 and has repeatedly moved on and off the market since 2014, according to Zillow. Mr. Demar purchased it in 2009, property records show.

how bout the edited version... C22...
 
Health experts are bracing for a possible surge in travel-related cases following Thanksgiving. Cases stemming from the holiday are likely to be apparent about a week to 10 days after Thanksgiving.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield had a dire prediction for the winter months. "I actually believe they're going to be the most difficult time in the public health history of this nation,” he said.

Much like it did ahead of Thanksgiving, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is recommending people to cancel plans to travel for the December holidays.

 
Go for it
I agree it could be fun

I wouldn’t stop or give a security guard the time of day

what are the going to do
Call a cop

they certainly arnt going to get physical
Because now that would be fun
Indeed, it would be fun! I would take my new job very seriously and fulfill my obligation to do that job.
 
Health experts are bracing for a possible surge in travel-related cases following Thanksgiving. Cases stemming from the holiday are likely to be apparent about a week to 10 days after Thanksgiving.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield had a dire prediction for the winter months. "I actually believe they're going to be the most difficult time in the public health history of this nation,” he said.

Much like it did ahead of Thanksgiving, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is recommending people to cancel plans to travel for the December holidays.

Just look at the LI numbers this morning. Does not even include Thanksgiving yet.................or that LI party!
 
Boy, MTB you should get the golden ladle award for $#it stirring.

I don't think I want to be an early guinea pig. In a conversation with the nurse across the street, even she agreed that we don't want to be watching TV one day and see "If you were vaccinated for COVID in 2021 and your eyeballs fell out, you may be entitled to compensation."

I'm not opposed to it in principle, but I think I'm going to wait a bit and see how it goes. My kid will probably be required to get it to go to school, and the wife probably will be required where she works. I'm in a bit of a safer environment and I've made it this far, so I'll continue to take precautions and stay safe for a while longer.
 
Avenger, agree 100% about not being first. But it's actually not a problem. If you are anything like me, we really have no problem with waiting since we will probably be in group 3. Over 60, but no underlying problems, not a front line worker, the earliest we will be is group 3. That means there will be something like 100k people ahead of us on line. At that point we should know if anyone's eyeballs fell out.
 
Indeed, it would be fun! I would take my new job very seriously and fulfill my obligation to do that job.
I’m very confident Home Depot mgmt would frown upon what u would think of as serious

I’d bet my last dollar they are told how far to push any issue
Especially where masks are concerned

it’s not the guards call
And confrontations are discouraged by mgmt

but go for it
 
I will be on line right behind you.

?
I’m not

I’m figuring
Between my wife having anti bodies
The fact that I’ve been out and about since
Well since forever as I’ve never not been in close contact with a lot of ppl and a lot of ppl that have been in contact with a lot of ppl

something isn’t quite right with the “ science”

ive got nothing against vaccination as a rule
But in this instance I’m skeptical about the need
For many of us
 
And so it begins: As I predicted a few pages back. you won't be able to participate much in society without the Vaxxx.

Immunity Cards' To Be Issued To All Americans; Enable CDC To Track COVID-19 Vaxx Status In Database​



On Wednesday the Department of Defense released the first images of a COVID-19 vaccination record card as well as vaccination kits, according to CNN.

"Everyone will be issued a written card that they can put in their wallet that will tell them what they had and when their next dose is due," says Dr. Kelly Moore, associate director of the Immunization Action Coalition. "Let's do the simple, easy thing first. Everyone's going to get that."



What's more, vaccination clinics will also report to their state immunization registries which vaccine was given so that third parties can verify one's vaccination status regardless of what their card says (or if they've lost it).




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