Shotguns

Anyone thinking that a pistol gripped 12 or even 20 gauge shotty is the thing for HD, better take it to a range, preferably an outdoor one, and shoot a few rounds.

I could not agree more. Way too many people see a shotgun being fired with 1 hand in the movies and think its the way to do it. Watch you tube "gun fails."

LOL, reminds me of the opening day of Scoter Season circa 1978. My buddy and I were out in the Sound in my boat, no camo, just a 16' Glasspar. We had just laid out 50 Clorox bottles painted black, with 2 white patches, and a set of nested silhouettes. It was a rainy, crappy day with a NE 15 kt wind, but it WAS opening day.

I decided that it was time to use the "stern head" and get rid of that morning cup of coffee. So there I was standing by the transom, in full, yellow Helly's taking a leak. I looked up to see 50 birds coming right into the stool, abandoned the "business at hand", grabbed the 870 and took a single shot from the hip!! Damn thing almost tore my arms off!! It was an hysterical start to a memorable day. And no, I predictably didn't hit a thing!!

Believe it or not that was NOT the funniest or most memorable event that day. There were 3 other things that still have me doubled over in laughter when I think about them, including SUPER SCOTER. A single bird came in and my buddy took a perfect shot, clobbered the bird that folded up, and rolled over on this back before dropping into the water like a stone. That was one dead bird, but wait!!! Damn thing hit the water and it was like he had been sleeping because he suddenly shook his head to wake up, and then proceeded to fly away. The two of us were sitting there shaking our heads in amazement. Up to that point, and every time after, any time a duck folds and rolls it was DOA, but not SUPER SCOTER!!
 
When I harvested my first deer my neighbor asked me "how did I feel?" Knowing what he was actually asking but intending to draw it out and see him squirm, I finally answered "nothing, nothing at all" but instead looked around for a clearing where I could gut it. We hardly spoke again and he eventually moved out. My previously "harped on" point remains. One buys the gun to protect the family. Please do some soul searching to confirm that you can absolutely without hesitation blow the perp away and think only of chambering the next round and repeat the mantra center mass, center mass. And no, when I got my first deer I really had no buck fever, no regrets and couldn't wait to harvest more venison.
 
When I harvested my first deer my neighbor asked me "how did I feel?" Knowing what he was actually asking but intending to draw it out and see him squirm, I finally answered "nothing, nothing at all" but instead looked around for a clearing where I could gut it. We hardly spoke again and he eventually moved out. My previously "harped on" point remains. One buys the gun to protect the family. Please do some soul searching to confirm that you can absolutely without hesitation blow the perp away and think only of chambering the next round and repeat the mantra center mass, center mass. And no, when I got my first deer I really had no buck fever, no regrets and couldn't wait to harvest more venison.
Great story.
 
LOL, reminds me of the opening day of Scoter Season circa 1978. My buddy and I were out in the Sound in my boat, no camo, just a 16' Glasspar. We had just laid out 50 Clorox bottles painted black, with 2 white patches, and a set of nested silhouettes. It was a rainy, crappy day with a NE 15 kt wind, but it WAS opening day.

I decided that it was time to use the "stern head" and get rid of that morning cup of coffee. So there I was standing by the transom, in full, yellow Helly's taking a leak. I looked up to see 50 birds coming right into the stool, abandoned the "business at hand", grabbed the 870 and took a single shot from the hip!! Damn thing almost tore my arms off!! It was an hysterical start to a memorable day. And no, I predictably didn't hit a thing!!

Believe it or not that was NOT the funniest or most memorable event that day. There were 3 other things that still have me doubled over in laughter when I think about them, including SUPER SCOTER. A single bird came in and my buddy took a perfect shot, clobbered the bird that folded up, and rolled over on this back before dropping into the water like a stone. That was one dead bird, but wait!!! Damn thing hit the water and it was like he had been sleeping because he suddenly shook his head to wake up, and then proceeded to fly away. The two of us were sitting there shaking our heads in amazement. Up to that point, and every time after, any time a duck folds and rolls it was DOA, but not SUPER SCOTER!!

That reminds me of the time my buddy hit a Canadian Goose on the 8th hole at Crab Meadow Golf Course; right in the fairway the golf ball hit the goose right in the neck, and it bent and fell down like a dead limb in slow motion... We were all saying "oh no u just killed that goose"....as we are walking up to the goose, its' neck springs back to life and the goose stands up, shakes it off, and walks away. So funny!
 
That reminds me of the time my buddy hit a Canadian Goose on the 8th hole at Crab Meadow Golf Course; right in the fairway the golf ball hit the goose right in the neck, and it bent and fell down like a dead limb in slow motion... We were all saying "oh no u just killed that goose"....as we are walking up to the goose, its' neck springs back to life and the goose stands up, shakes it off, and walks away. So funny!

Did the goose help his lay??
 
Good story Pequa.

As far as actually having to pull the trigger,I really hope I never get into that situation that is so grave that it is a no brainier and a must do. But if it ever comes down to it (e.g a home invasion) I will not hesitate. I think that scenario is actually a low probability today for me in my neighbor hood.

I am actually more worried about 6-18 months from now of having rioters come into my town and go totally bat shit crazy; destroying property and the like. In that instance, i want to be prepared to defend my property and my daughter.

Anyways, the item is being shipped today from Texas up to my local FFL. Once it arrives I have to go in to do the fed background check, which will not be a problem at all, then I can take possession.

From there I would like to do some safety and shooting training from a licensed instructor. If anyone here on LI has that expertise I am happy to pay for that training. Or if you have a recommendations for a licensed instructor, please let me know either here or in a private message.
 
Good story Pequa.

As far as actually having to pull the trigger,I really hope I never get into that situation that is so grave that it is a no brainier and a must do. But if it ever comes down to it (e.g a home invasion) I will not hesitate. I think that scenario is actually a low probability today for me in my neighbor hood.

I am actually more worried about 6-18 months from now of having rioters come into my town and go totally bat shit crazy; destroying property and the like. In that instance, i want to be prepared to defend my property and my daughter.

Anyways, the item is being shipped today from Texas up to my local FFL. Once it arrives I have to go in to do the fed background check, which will not be a problem at all, then I can take possession.

From there I would like to do some safety and shooting training from a licensed instructor. If anyone here on LI has that expertise I am happy to pay for that training. Or if you have a recommendations for a licensed instructor, please let me know either here or in a private message.
Go on longislandgunclub.com. Plenty of instructor info there. Just remember 6-18 mo from now that deadly force can only be used inside your home. Property damage is what insurance is for
 
Go on longislandgunclub.com. Plenty of instructor info there. Just remember 6-18 mo from now that deadly force can only be used inside your home. Property damage is what insurance is for

Thanks Peuqa - I'll check out the LI Gun Club for instructors. ! (y)

What do you mean by 6-18 months deadly force can only be used inside the home? Does the home extend to the property lines? As a hypothetical, if people are throwing Moltav Cocktails at my home and trying to set it on fire, can I defend? Or if they are entering my property with weapons, can I defend?
 
NRA won’t even supply a lawyer to defend you in a self defense case. Your right to use deadly force in newyorkistan doesn’t even extend to your porch. Have a fire extinguisher for that molotov. But once they break down your door its center mass center mass.
 
NRA won’t even supply a lawyer to defend you in a self defense case. Your right to use deadly force in newyorkistan doesn’t even extend to your porch. Have a fire extinguisher for that molotov. But once they break down your door its center mass center mass.
Doesn't even extend to if you shoot him in the back in the doorway leading to the outside of your house. A shot in the back is indicative of the scumbag running away from you making imminent danger non existent.
 
This is why. Insanity coming to a neighborhood near you soon. In the tucker monologue this just happened in NYC.
This is why I just bought a Shotgun.

 
NRA won’t even supply a lawyer to defend you in a self defense case. Your right to use deadly force in newyorkistan doesn’t even extend to your porch. Have a fire extinguisher for that molotov. But once they break down your door its center mass center mass.
So is someone breakes into his home and is threatening his family he is perfectly legal to shoot and kill them?
 
If you are 6’ 2” and perp is 98lbs wet and unarmed could b difficult saying you were scared but otherwise there is a semi “castle doctrine” in newyorkistan.
 
If you are 6’ 2” and perp is 98lbs wet and unarmed could b difficult saying you were scared but otherwise there is a semi “castle doctrine” in newyorkistan.
Two men break into a home the home tis dark the home owner is afraid for his familys lives he shoots one the other runs is that a legal shooting?
 

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