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Mr. Roccus
Now that its been proclaimed ( and amazingly a boatload of loyal supporters buy it hook, line, and sinker ?‍♂️) that CV19 is nothing more than a for profit ploy by the medical community, does that mean we can finally put this to rest and get on with our lives???? ?‍♂️?‍♂️???????
 
Chinacat said:
Mr. Roccus
Now that its been proclaimed ( and amazingly a boatload of loyal supporters buy it hook, line, and sinker ?‍♂️) that CV19 is nothing more than a for profit ploy by the medical community, does that mean we can finally put this to rest and get on with our lives???? ?‍♂️?‍♂️???????
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For those that've bought into the "COVID for Profit Ploy" Mutual Fund, there's probably another one regarding a certain old bridge between Manhattan and Brooklyn that they might also want to add to their portfolio...

Just for the record, FDA Emergency Use Authorizations have a limit on what can be charged for the device/test/drug, well below the "normal" price of a licensed device/test/drug, but of course everyone knows that...
 
Roccus7 said:
Starting to lose it with anyone who says "Can't wait until 2020 is over!" like when the ball drops in Times Square on News Year Eve there's going to be a loud POOF and the Pandemic will magically disappear!! The most egregious use of this seems to be newscaster/interviewers talking to people with businesses/ventures deeply impacted by the Pandemic.

I'm concerned that these statements are starting to instill a false sense of security. Right now, when the ball drops, and for at least few months after, NOTHING will be changing in our day to day existence. Hopefully an effective vaccine will become available and there will be better, widely available effective therapeutics, but Masks, Social Distancing, Restrictions on Large Gatherings, and Scrupulous Hygiene will be with us.

This should be a Cool Hand Luke "Get Your Mind Right" moment, instead it's starting to become a "Unicorn Farting Rainbows" event.
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Nothing much has changed in mine
And I’m happy that way
Sad you changed yours
 
was just up to the local ABC Store (for you northerners that's the liquor store Alcohol & Beverage Control) - big sign in the window:
  • Closed due to COVID19 Breakout Among Employees
I was in there last week.
:oops:

If you saw the way they have these things set up you'd have to wonder how that happened.
can't get in without a mask
  • the standard 6 foot demarcation symbols on the floor
  • no more then 3 people allowed in at a time
  • cashiers behind plexiglass
  • they won't touch your bottle - you have to hold it & they scan it through the plexiglass
  • you then have to bag it
Also noticed this morning that our county's local case count jumpoed by 8 people yesterday. Which is significant. We've been holding at 1 or less daily for the last month or so. Wonder if it was the store employees that drove it up? I've seen up to 5 people working in there.

I'm thinking one of the employees contracted it from outside the store & then brought it in.


Had to do a 30 mile round trip to the next closest ABC Store.
8-)
 
wader said:
was just up to the local ABC Store (for you northerners that's the liquor store Alcohol & Beverage Control) - big sign in the window:
  • Closed due to COVID19 Breakout Among Employees
I was in there last week.
:oops:

If you saw the way they have these things set up you'd have to wonder how that happened.
can't get in without a mask
  • the standard 6 foot demarcation symbols on the floor
  • no more then 3 people allowed in at a time
  • cashiers behind plexiglass
  • they won't touch your bottle - you have to hold it & they scan it through the plexiglass
  • you then have to bag it
Also noticed this morning that our county's local case count jumpoed by 8 people yesterday. Which is significant. We've been holding at 1 or less daily for the last month or so. Wonder if it was the store employees that drove it up? I've seen up to 5 people working in there.

I'm thinking one of the employees contracted it from outside the store & then brought it in.


Had to do a 30 mile round trip to the next closest ABC Store.
8-)
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That’s a long haul (30 miles) for vino or brown liquor. ? hope u got something good!
 
Roccus7 said:
True enough, and we may see a replay when someone who felt no one could handle the truth regarding COVID-19 gets dragged away from Pennsylvania Avenue...
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Not to get political, but since you opened the door, that same someone closed down international travel from known hotspots to the US in January and early February, and was declared a racist and xenophobe as a result. This was before the WHO declared it a pandemic. That alone probably saved many lives.
 
dsedy said:
Not to get political, but since you opened the door, that same someone closed down international travel from known hotspots to the US in January and early February, and was declared a racist and xenophobe as a result. This was before the WHO declared it a pandemic. That alone probably saved many lives.
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Glad you brought that up. Early in the pandemic there was good communication between the medical scientists and the policymakers, but now that has broken down, so we're seeing these headlines due to poor, inconsistent rules and actions, along with a week of just shy of 99,000 new cases now that we've "turned the corner"...

Study: Trump rallies caused over 30,000 COVID-19 cases, likely led to 700 deaths​

pressherald.com/2020/10/31/study-trump-rallies-caused-over-30000-covid-19-cases-likely-led-to-700-deaths/

By Dave GoldinerTribune News ServiceOctober 31, 2020
President Trump, front center, speaks at BOK Center during his rally June 20 in Tulsa, Okla.

President Trump’s massive campaign rallies led to more than 30,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases and likely caused the death of 700 Americans, a new study says.

The Stanford University paper released Friday took a close look at 18 Trump rallies between June and September and followed subjects “up to ten post-rally weeks for each event.”

“The communities in which Trump rallies took place paid a high price in terms of disease and death,” researchers concluded.

Rates of COVID-19 often rose notably in communities that hosted the events, compared with nearby towns where Trump stayed away, the study found.

“There are some indications that compliance with public health guidelines, such as the use of masks, improved at later rallies,” researchers wrote. “While it would be worth evaluating the diminution of treatment effects resulting from greater compliance, we currently lack sufficient compliance data to conduct that investigation.”

The Trump campaign has insisted that it offers participants masks and temperature checks at his rallies.
A Biden spokesman slammed the Trump rallies as “super spreader” events that violate common-sense public health rules.

Biden’s rallies have featured smaller invitation-only crowds, with more masks and social distancing.
 
And before we get into a "Let it run wild so we get herd immunity debate", let me provide you with the numbers...

US 2019 Population: 328 million
New cases last week: 99,000
Deaths last week: 971
Current Death Rate: 0.98%
Bare Minimum for Herd Immunity = 50%, a number that I professionally feel is too low, but let's roll with it as a "best case" example

So given the current death rate and infection numbers, 164 million US citizens need to get COVID for that 50% herd immunity number, but 0.98% of them will die. which means around 1.6 MILLION DEATHS!!

Those are the numbers, you can check them yourself.

YES, the economic toll of shutdowns is absolutely huge, I've never said otherwise. The question has always been what is an acceptable cost?

Regardless of that, the "Three Ws" cost virtually nothing, and can help reduce that death toll. In the 1918 Pandemic it was consider Patriotic to practice these, now it's become some distorted social crusade.
  • WEAR a mask
  • WATCH your distance
  • WASH your hands
 
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wader said:
us.yahoo.com

England to enter new lockdown; UK virus cases pass 1 million

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Saturday announced a new month-long lockdown for England after being warned that without tough action a resurgent coronavirus outbreak will overwhelm hospitals in weeks. On the day the U.K. passed 1 million confirmed COVID-19 cases, Johnson made a sudden...
us.yahoo.com us.yahoo.com
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So much for just give us a couple weeks to slow the spread
 
jpd said:
baltimore.cbslocal.com

New Study Finds Taking Aspirin Significantly Lowers Risk Of Complications, Death In COVID-19 Patients

A new landmark study at the University of Maryland School of Medicine found that COVID-19 patients taking a daily, low-dose aspirin to protect against cardiovascular disease significantly lowered the risk of death and complications from COVID-19.
baltimore.cbslocal.com baltimore.cbslocal.com
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Makes sense. Us senor members take aspirin for its anticoagulant properties, and one of the bizarre, lethal things seen in some COVID patients is wide-spread coagulation.
 
Roccus7 said:
Makes sense. Us senor members take aspirin for its anticoagulant properties, and one of the bizarre, lethal things seen in some COVID patients is wide-spread coagulation.
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Oddly enough my GP advised me to not do the child aspirin routine (or vitamins either) anymore as it is really only recommended for those of us oldies with HBP, cholesterol problems, known heart disease, etc. Yet he has me on a statin despite my getting my total cholesterol count down to under 140. I could probably see two other GPs and end up with three different "recommendations."
 
dsedy said:
Not to get political, but since you opened the door, that same someone closed down international travel from known hotspots to the US in January and early February, and was declared a racist and xenophobe as a result. This was before the WHO declared it a pandemic. That alone probably saved many lives.
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That's not accurate. If you were an American living in China, you could come straight back. No quarantine, no contact tracing. I think maybe 40,000 got past the "I shut it down."
If you were a Chinese food market worker from Wuhan, you could fly into any country first, then fly into the US, no quarantine, no tracing.
If you were a college student in Florence and your program got cancelled in March because of all the Covid deaths around you, you came straight back in, no quarantine, no tracing, not even a temperature check.
 
Do any of you even listen to the drivel being put out

ny idiot governor said months ago
1.4 was like some sacred line that couldn’t be crossed or pandemonium would ensue

but that lines been crossed many times in many places

then an areas hot having crossed said magic number
Then a week later it’s not hot

then some other areas hot

All bull crap

but sheep keeping wallowing in it
 

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